*FDA PANEL VOTES 16-3 AGAINST APPROVING COVID BOOSTER

— *Walter Bloomberg (@DeItaone) September 17, 2021

It is almost like the White House doesn't know what they are doing…

JUST IN: FDA advisory panel soundly rejects a plan to offer Pfizer booster shots against COVID-19 to most Americans - AP

— Breaking911 (@Breaking911) September 17, 2021

Looks like the FDA wants to be the only credible organization out there.

Dammit.

And just when we were getting this "mandate for plebes" thing rollin'.

BOMBSHELL Info During Todays FDA Vax Meeting

Dr Rose States Based on The VAERS Data... The Risks Far Outweigh The Benefits Especially For Children

Over A 1000% Increase In Adverse Events In 2021!

Questions If The Shots Are Driving The Variants

Clear Failure of These Products pic.twitter.com/ju7WV1Fk2j

— Covid-1984 (@NeverSleever) September 17, 2021

I was just about to say

if they won't advise gen pop boosters how would they ever give EUA for under 12?

Does this mean the FDA is no longer part of whatever conspiracy?


Also, do we get an all caps alert that they did approve a 3rd shot for immunocompromised people and people >65?

Another Doug said:

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Does this mean the FDA is no longer part of whatever conspiracy?


Also, do we get an all caps alert that they did approve a 3rd shot for immunocompromised people and people >65?

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You can create an all-caps alert if you'd like.

Like it or not, it's remarkable that the FDA did not approve boosters for everyone. Did you listen to the vote?

redcrayon said:

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Another Doug said:

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Does this mean the FDA is no longer part of whatever conspiracy?


Also, do we get an all caps alert that they did approve a 3rd shot for immunocompromised people and people >65?

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You can create an all-caps alert if you'd like.

Like it or not, it's remarkable that the FDA did not approve boosters for everyone. Did you listen to the vote?

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I don't need to listen to the fda to know that the bureaucracy exists for a reason and their decisions are deliberate in nature and usually do a good job of balancing risk vs reward. I also know that they might change their mind at some point. I just have no idea why not recommending a 3rd shot is huge news to crowd that won't get the first.

Another Doug said:

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redcrayon said:

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Another Doug said:

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Does this mean the FDA is no longer part of whatever conspiracy?


Also, do we get an all caps alert that they did approve a 3rd shot for immunocompromised people and people >65?

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You can create an all-caps alert if you'd like.

Like it or not, it's remarkable that the FDA did not approve boosters for everyone. Did you listen to the vote?

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I don't need to listen to the fda to know that the bureaucracy exists for a reason and their decisions are deliberate in nature and usually do a good job of balancing risk vs reward. I also know that they might change their mind at some point. I just have no idea why not recommending a 3rd shot is huge news to crowd that won't get the first.

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Seriously? Because it gives weight to their opinions on the low efficacy of these vaccines.

Pretty obvious news.

Another Doug said:

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redcrayon said:

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Another Doug said:

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Does this mean the FDA is no longer part of whatever conspiracy?


Also, do we get an all caps alert that they did approve a 3rd shot for immunocompromised people and people >65?

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You can create an all-caps alert if you'd like.

Like it or not, it's remarkable that the FDA did not approve boosters for everyone. Did you listen to the vote?

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I don't need to listen to the fda to know that the bureaucracy exists for a reason and their decisions are deliberate in nature and usually do a good job of balancing risk vs reward. I also know that they might change their mind at some point. I just have no idea why not recommending a 3rd shot is huge news to crowd that won't get the first.

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Texags: I don't trust the doctors and scientists in the government on anything with COVID

2 minutes later

Texags: OMG, see, the doctors and scientists in the government said something I agree with regarding COVID, I must share how much I agree with them.

fullback44 said:

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petebaker said:

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BOMBSHELL Info During Todays FDA Vax Meeting

Dr Rose States Based on The VAERS Data... The Risks Far Outweigh The Benefits Especially For Children

Over A 1000% Increase In Adverse Events In 2021!

Questions If The Shots Are Driving The Variants

Clear Failure of These Products pic.twitter.com/ju7WV1Fk2j

— Covid-1984 (@NeverSleever) September 17, 2021

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So as many Drs and researchers have been warning, these shots may be driving the variants... people that are a listening to this white house need to get their head examined, the FDA finally had the balls to do whats right and tell the WH boosters and shots are not working... they are in fact probably driving the variants we are seeing ...

yet all the sheeep listen blindly to what Dementia Joe's group keeps trying to do

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That's not how it works. Variants don't emerge because of vaccination. The delta strain is thought to have emerged from India. The UK strain emerged from the UK prior to large scale vaccination roll out. Variants emerge naturally as viruses make mistakes in their replication process. Most variants end up dying off on their own, and sometimes variants will actually make a virus less harmful and less transmissable. The vaccine, just like natural immunity, will produce a selective pressure that will cause only the variants that are not well recognized by the immune system to propagate. But again, this is the same thing as natural immunity.

The influenza virus has changed every year well before vaccines, and there are 100's of minor variants of it. Getting the flu vaccine, or the actual flu, on year will likely protect you against that strain for years. But between natural waning immunity and constant genetic drift of the flu virus, you are likely to get the flu later in life.

I've said before that we should hold off on a booster until the data clearly supports it, and there's a solid recommendation on how long after the initial dose we should get it, and I still think that's the case. It is likely that this will turn into some sort of annual shot, or perhaps biannual, but that's yet to be seen. I think the FDA looked at the actual data, and I highly doubt this random lady during the open session had anything to do with it.

bigtruckguy3500 said:

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fullback44 said:

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petebaker said:

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BOMBSHELL Info During Todays FDA Vax Meeting

Dr Rose States Based on The VAERS Data... The Risks Far Outweigh The Benefits Especially For Children

Over A 1000% Increase In Adverse Events In 2021!

Questions If The Shots Are Driving The Variants

Clear Failure of These Products pic.twitter.com/ju7WV1Fk2j

— Covid-1984 (@NeverSleever) September 17, 2021

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So as many Drs and researchers have been warning, these shots may be driving the variants... people that are a listening to this white house need to get their head examined, the FDA finally had the balls to do whats right and tell the WH boosters and shots are not working... they are in fact probably driving the variants we are seeing ...

yet all the sheeep listen blindly to what Dementia Joe's group keeps trying to do

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That's not how it works. Variants don't emerge because of vaccination. The delta strain is thought to have emerged from India. The UK strain emerged from the UK prior to large scale vaccination roll out. Variants emerge naturally as viruses make mistakes in their replication process. Most variants end up dying off on their own, and sometimes variants will actually make a virus less harmful and less transmissable. The vaccine, just like natural immunity, will produce a selective pressure that will cause only the variants that are not well recognized by the immune system to propagate. But again, this is the same thing as natural immunity.

The influenza virus has changed every year well before vaccines, and there are 100's of minor variants of it. Getting the flu vaccine, or the actual flu, on year will likely protect you against that strain for years. But between natural waning immunity and constant genetic drift of the flu virus, you are likely to get the flu later in life.

I've said before that we should hold off on a booster until the data clearly supports it, and there's a solid recommendation on how long after the initial dose we should get it, and I still think that's the case. It is likely that this will turn into some sort of annual shot, or perhaps biannual, but that's yet to be seen. I think the FDA looked at the actual data, and I highly doubt this random lady during the open session had anything to do with it.

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All the experts on how viruses work these days .. where have you been for 60 years for the flu?

fullback44 said:

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bigtruckguy3500 said:

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fullback44 said:

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petebaker said:

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BOMBSHELL Info During Todays FDA Vax Meeting

Dr Rose States Based on The VAERS Data... The Risks Far Outweigh The Benefits Especially For Children

Over A 1000% Increase In Adverse Events In 2021!

Questions If The Shots Are Driving The Variants

Clear Failure of These Products pic.twitter.com/ju7WV1Fk2j

— Covid-1984 (@NeverSleever) September 17, 2021

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So as many Drs and researchers have been warning, these shots may be driving the variants... people that are a listening to this white house need to get their head examined, the FDA finally had the balls to do whats right and tell the WH boosters and shots are not working... they are in fact probably driving the variants we are seeing ...

yet all the sheeep listen blindly to what Dementia Joe's group keeps trying to do

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That's not how it works. Variants don't emerge because of vaccination. The delta strain is thought to have emerged from India. The UK strain emerged from the UK prior to large scale vaccination roll out. Variants emerge naturally as viruses make mistakes in their replication process. Most variants end up dying off on their own, and sometimes variants will actually make a virus less harmful and less transmissable. The vaccine, just like natural immunity, will produce a selective pressure that will cause only the variants that are not well recognized by the immune system to propagate. But again, this is the same thing as natural immunity.

The influenza virus has changed every year well before vaccines, and there are 100's of minor variants of it. Getting the flu vaccine, or the actual flu, on year will likely protect you against that strain for years. But between natural waning immunity and constant genetic drift of the flu virus, you are likely to get the flu later in life.

I've said before that we should hold off on a booster until the data clearly supports it, and there's a solid recommendation on how long after the initial dose we should get it, and I still think that's the case. It is likely that this will turn into some sort of annual shot, or perhaps biannual, but that's yet to be seen. I think the FDA looked at the actual data, and I highly doubt this random lady during the open session had anything to do with it.

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All the experts on how viruses work these days .. where have you been for 60 years for the flu?

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I take it by your response you don't really understand why you should still get the flu shot.

YouBet said:

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Another Doug said:

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redcrayon said:

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Another Doug said:

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Does this mean the FDA is no longer part of whatever conspiracy?


Also, do we get an all caps alert that they did approve a 3rd shot for immunocompromised people and people >65?

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You can create an all-caps alert if you'd like.

Like it or not, it's remarkable that the FDA did not approve boosters for everyone. Did you listen to the vote?

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I don't need to listen to the fda to know that the bureaucracy exists for a reason and their decisions are deliberate in nature and usually do a good job of balancing risk vs reward. I also know that they might change their mind at some point. I just have no idea why not recommending a 3rd shot is huge news to crowd that won't get the first.

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Seriously? Because it gives weight to their opinions on the low efficacy of these vaccines.

Pretty obvious news.

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When it's really doing exactly the opposite.

cone said:

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so basically if you got Pfizer, you're pretty likely to get a breakthrough case on a long enough timeline (and the people I know who got those cases fully recovered although they felt pretty bad in doing so), but it's better to get that eventual breakthrough case than keep pumping in boosters every six months

I mean that's reasonable but it's definitely not going to break the anxiety and its economic hangover. that's really what I thought the boosters and child vaxs were for - to take the power out of the hands of the maximalists

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I took an extra nap one day. I think that was it. Sure better than my 6x IronMan friend who spent 2 weeks in hell with no vax.

And with 6 kids, like I've said on here before... you're gonna get Covid. Why you'd face it unarmed is beyond me.

traxter said:

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Another Doug said:

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redcrayon said:

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Another Doug said:

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Does this mean the FDA is no longer part of whatever conspiracy?


Also, do we get an all caps alert that they did approve a 3rd shot for immunocompromised people and people >65?

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You can create an all-caps alert if you'd like.

Like it or not, it's remarkable that the FDA did not approve boosters for everyone. Did you listen to the vote?

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I don't need to listen to the fda to know that the bureaucracy exists for a reason and their decisions are deliberate in nature and usually do a good job of balancing risk vs reward. I also know that they might change their mind at some point. I just have no idea why not recommending a 3rd shot is huge news to crowd that won't get the first.

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Texags: I don't trust the doctors and scientists in the government on anything with COVID

2 minutes later

Texags: OMG, see, the doctors and scientists in the government said something I agree with regarding COVID, I must share how much I agree with them.

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I'm just not a fan of this response. There is no room for critical thinking, from either side.

Let me ask you this - have 100% of doctors been in agreement this entire time? The answer is no. There are other doctors and experts people are listening to, but those voices aren't being promoted by the media or other officials. If they do get any air time, they are labeled as nuts (some of them are by the way). Many of them have been saying the same thing about the booster that the FDA just voted on. In fact, there are a couple of doctors on this very forum who have said they are not comfortable with promoting the booster as the data has not been provided. They've even said if you're immunocompromised or very vulnerable, you probably should go ahead with the booster, but wouldn't promote it for anyone else. This is exactly what the FDA just said.

I saw an exchange between two doctors on this forum where one said they're not ready to promote the booster because no data has been distributed, and another doctor could not believe that doctor would hold that opinion when the highest health agency was going to recommend it.

This goes for the other side too. There are people who do blindly accept anything against the narrative and don't critically think about the claims that are against the narrative.

This issue has never been black and white. The medical community isn't a homogenous thought. There is no room from mockery on either side. In fact, we should be pushing each other to be reasonable about information and read from a variety of view points to be well informed when we are given recommendations.

How about we question things in a healthy way to get to truth, which helps the entire community, rather than blindly trusting people?

94chem said:

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YouBet said:

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Another Doug said:

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redcrayon said:

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Another Doug said:

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Does this mean the FDA is no longer part of whatever conspiracy?


Also, do we get an all caps alert that they did approve a 3rd shot for immunocompromised people and people >65?

---

You can create an all-caps alert if you'd like.

Like it or not, it's remarkable that the FDA did not approve boosters for everyone. Did you listen to the vote?

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I don't need to listen to the fda to know that the bureaucracy exists for a reason and their decisions are deliberate in nature and usually do a good job of balancing risk vs reward. I also know that they might change their mind at some point. I just have no idea why not recommending a 3rd shot is huge news to crowd that won't get the first.

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Seriously? Because it gives weight to their opinions on the low efficacy of these vaccines.

Pretty obvious news.

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When it's really doing exactly the opposite.

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It's astounding and sad. A panel of experts said that the vaccines work so well that people don't need boosters, and some people manage to read that as "the vaccines don't work well"

amercer said:

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94chem said:

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YouBet said:

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Another Doug said:

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redcrayon said:

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Another Doug said:

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Does this mean the FDA is no longer part of whatever conspiracy?


Also, do we get an all caps alert that they did approve a 3rd shot for immunocompromised people and people >65?

---

You can create an all-caps alert if you'd like.

Like it or not, it's remarkable that the FDA did not approve boosters for everyone. Did you listen to the vote?

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I don't need to listen to the fda to know that the bureaucracy exists for a reason and their decisions are deliberate in nature and usually do a good job of balancing risk vs reward. I also know that they might change their mind at some point. I just have no idea why not recommending a 3rd shot is huge news to crowd that won't get the first.

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Seriously? Because it gives weight to their opinions on the low efficacy of these vaccines.

Pretty obvious news.

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When it's really doing exactly the opposite.

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It's astounding and sad. A panel of experts said that the vaccines work so well that people don't need boosters, and some people manage to read that as "the vaccines don't work well"

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When your FDA is propping up big pharma conspiracy theories fail - ignore all evidence and make up your own bull**** conclusions. Pretty much par for the course for F16 posters.