How long to wait to get vaccinated after having Covid

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eric76 said:

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chjoak said:

curious... if you have had covid, why would you get vaccinated afterward? You already would have naturally generated antibodies that are far superior to anything the vaccine would do for you.
A month after I had covid in May 2020, I had no detectable antibodies.


That doesn't seem right. Is it possible you had a false positive? Or that your immunity is not antibody based? Or you have an immune disorder?

For reference, the previous SARS virus showed natural immunity 15 years later.
This is not the previous SARS virus.

There are four coronaviruses that can cause a cold (this is not to say that all colds are cause by coronaviruses). If I remember correctly, any immunity gained from having a cold from one of those four coronaviruses only lasted about a year.

In other words, it is entirely fallacious to assume that the immunity from having had covid lasts for X amount of time just because the immunity from having had another coronavirus lasted for X amount of time.
Fauci said exactly this - that long term immunity could be inferred - early on, and was using the other covids as an example.
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Dr. Reveille's most recent post says: What if I already had Covid do I still need the vaccine?

Unfortunately, we don't have clear data on the hospitalization rates and deaths rate with people with only natural immunity. But we do know that the levels of measurable antibodies appear to be significantly higher with the vaccines than with natural immunity. Also it appears that people who have had Covid previously appear to have less effective immunity to the delta variant than to the original SARS-COV2 virus. Knowing that the vaccine is very safe with minimal side effects with over 163 million doses given, it would make sense to get vaccinated even if you have had Covid previously. It will simply boost your immunity and dramatically reduce your chances of severe disease. Facebook
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How Soon Can You Get Vaccinated After Recovering From COVID-19?

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Aug. 11, 2021 - Katie McCallum

If you're unvaccinated and recovering from COVID-19 whether the case is mild or more severe you might be wondering how soon before you can take the necessary step to prevent a recurrence: getting vaccinated.

The risk of reinfection yes, it is possible is not insignificant. According to a recent study, unvaccinated adults were twice as likely to get COVID-19 a second time than those who got vaccinated after recovering.

"Anyone who can get vaccinated, regardless of whether or not they've had COVID-19, should do so," says Dr. Robert Phillips, executive vice president and chief physician executive at Houston Methodist. "At this point, there are just too many unknowns regarding how durable and reliable natural immunity is to feel confident about the protection it may offer."

Dr. Phillips adds that "what we know for sure is vaccine-induced immunity offers incredibly effective protection even against the Delta variant."

So, if you're ready to get vaccinated, here's what you need to know:

How soon can you get vaccinated after recovering from COVID-19?

"After testing positive for COVID-19, you will need to postpone getting vaccinated until your symptoms have resolved and you've met the criteria for discontinuing isolation," says Dr. Phillips. "This timeline can vary by person, depending on your symptom severity and the treatments you may have received."

If you have symptoms, the criteria for ending isolation include:

10 days have passed since your symptoms began;
24 fever-free hours without the use of fever-reducing medications;
Your other COVID-19 symptoms are improving

"Some of the other symptoms of COVID-19 may take quite some time to go away. For instance, loss of smell or taste can linger in some people," says Dr. Phillips. "You do not need to delay vaccination if you're still experiencing these more mild symptoms of COVID-19."

If you are not experiencing symptoms, there's one main criteria for ending isolation:

10 days have passed since your positive viral test

If you begin to develop symptoms during isolation, follow the "if you have symptoms" criteria above before getting vaccinated.

"Someone with an asymptomatic COVID-19 case can get vaccinated as soon as their isolation ends 10 days after testing positive. You don't need a negative viral test before vaccination," says Dr. Phillips.

One caveat: If you received monoclonal antibodies or convalescent plasma, you will need to wait 90 days before getting the vaccine.

"People who received either of these antibody treatments will need to wait about three months before getting vaccinated," says Dr. Phillips. "The reason for this is that the antibodies in these treatments might hinder you from developing a complete immune response towards the vaccine."

Talk to your doctor if you're not sure which exact COVID-19 treatments you received during your illness.



What a joke of an article. There are many recent studies right now showing natural immunity is superior to the vaccines against Delta.
Please provide links to these many studies.



https://www.science.org/content/article/having-sars-cov-2-once-confers-much-greater-immunity-vaccine-vaccination-remains-vital
One is the new many?

We see the Israeli study touted a lot. It is interesting that other studies don't seem to be nearly as clearcut as the Israeli study.
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eric76 said:

Gumby said:

eric76 said:

chjoak said:

curious... if you have had covid, why would you get vaccinated afterward? You already would have naturally generated antibodies that are far superior to anything the vaccine would do for you.
A month after I had covid in May 2020, I had no detectable antibodies.


That doesn't seem right. Is it possible you had a false positive? Or that your immunity is not antibody based? Or you have an immune disorder?

For reference, the previous SARS virus showed natural immunity 15 years later.
This is not the previous SARS virus.

There are four coronaviruses that can cause a cold (this is not to say that all colds are cause by coronaviruses). If I remember correctly, any immunity gained from having a cold from one of those four coronaviruses only lasted about a year.

In other words, it is entirely fallacious to assume that the immunity from having had covid lasts for X amount of time just because the immunity from having had another coronavirus lasted for X amount of time.


Isn't it most closely related to the previous SARS virus though? In any case, less than one month of immunity seems like an outlier and perhaps a bit of a cause for concern about immune response.
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Jbob04 said:

Ivermectin didn't really do anything for me when my symptoms started. I thought maybe it kept it a mild case but then the pneumonia hit.
sorry to hear that, but it worked very very well for the entire country of INDIA
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Wow. I had to keep checking the dates on these posts. We keep learning more about natural immunity.

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fullback44 said:

Jbob04 said:

Ivermectin didn't really do anything for me when my symptoms started. I thought maybe it kept it a mild case but then the pneumonia hit.
sorry to hear that, but it worked very very well for the entire country of INDIA
India is so densely populated that delta burned through the pool of infections people quite quickly and deaths were severely undercounted based on a recent seroprevalence study. There is just not credible evidence that ivermectin is a workable solution against COVID, it would be great if it was, but the data suggests otherwise. Here is a recent double-blind.

https://rethinkingclinicaltrials.org/news/august-6-2021-early-treatment-of-covid-19-with-repurposed-therapies-the-together-adaptive-platform-trial-edward-mills-phd-frcp/
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Jbob04 said:

I am and that is one of my questions I plan to ask tomorrow when I hopefully get discharged. I was just curious as to everyone's thoughts on here.
Definitely go with what the docs tell you. One thing to note for the "natural immunity is better crowd," the Israeli study that is presented to say that concluded that the best immunity was conferred by vaccine + natural infection. So, assuming your excellent doctors support it in whatever time frame they give you, I'd say, given the bout you've had with COVID, it makes logical sense to give yourself the best possible antibody defense by stacking vaccine on top of your hard-earned natural immunity.
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Both NYU Langone and UT Southwestern have told me 90 days. Take it for what it is worth.
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We tell our pts they can get vaccinated as soon as off their isolation time, 10 or 20 days depending on severity of illness. If you had mAb or conv plasma, the wait is 90days. We rarely give conv plasma anymore though.
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That's basically what the doctors told me this morning.
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Jbob04 said:

That's basically what the doctors told me this morning.
Glad you got an answer from docs.
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