the4aces said:

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I have been holding out for this one.

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Why? Not a flame, just curious. Is there something about that one that is expected to be better than the others?

I work with a lot of Novavax people who were laid off when they almost went out of business before the pandemic. The problem has never been the science, but the fact that they just can't deliver as an organization.

Officially:

"Novavax expects to file for U.S. emergency use authorization in the fourth quarter of 2021."

My guess: never approved in the US.

It's the preferred vaccine of IPA drinkers and fans of that Indy band you probably haven't heard of.

McKinney Ag said:

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the4aces said:

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I have been holding out for this one.

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Why? Not a flame, just curious. Is there something about that one that is expected to be better than the others?

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I don't want to put words into his mouth but isn't the Novaxax based on a more traditional structure and not the mRNA design of the Pfizer & Moderna? That might be why.

SoulSlaveAG2005 said:

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McKinney Ag said:

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the4aces said:

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I have been holding out for this one.

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Why? Not a flame, just curious. Is there something about that one that is expected to be better than the others?

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It's a more traditional approach in development. Rather than an MRNA vaccine that makes your body to produce the spike protein to induce the anti body response.

The novavax (in my understanding) uses moth cells to develop the spike protein that is then isolated and injected to produce an antibody response. Apparently it's the same tech that the Hep B vaccine uses and has been around for 40 years.

It's also not problematic for those who try to avoid taking vax's that have utilized fetal cell lines in development.

I wish it had come sooner, as I would have taken it. Work mandate forced my hand to have to get a current vax.

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Are you referring to fetal cell line use in Pfizer/Moderna for testing or fetal cell lines used in the production of J&J?

If you are referring to the testing of Pfizer and Moderna, you will find that NovaVax used them for testing as well.

SoulSlaveAG2005 said:

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McKinney Ag said:

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the4aces said:

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I have been holding out for this one.

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Why? Not a flame, just curious. Is there something about that one that is expected to be better than the others?

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It's a more traditional approach in development. Rather than an MRNA vaccine that makes your body to produce the spike protein to induce the anti body response.

The novavax (in my understanding) uses moth cells to develop the spike protein that is then isolated and injected to produce an antibody response. Apparently it's the same tech that the Hep B vaccine uses and has been around for 40 years.

It's also not problematic for those who try to avoid taking vax's that have utilized fetal cell lines in development.

I wish it had come sooner, as I would have taken it. Work mandate forced my hand to have to get a current vax.

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I'm curious. Since these vaccines are only tested using the fetal lines, do you also avoid all the other products that are tested using fetal cell lines?

I mean, there are a ton of medications that are tested that way including Advil, Tylenol, Aspirin, and the ever popular ivermectin.

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/throughcatholiclenses/2021/01/if-any-drug-tested-on-hek-293-is-immoral-goodbye-modern-medicine/


I'm very pro-life, but after I studied this issue pretty thoroughly looking at both sides of the argument several years ago I came to the conclusion that I could use the products. Those cells have saved so many lives through the years.

One big factor (that is often overlooked in the antivax literature) is that the original abortions were likely to save the mother's life because abortion was illegal except to save the mother's life in the Netherlands at the time the cells were obtained.

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-10-fetal-cells-1970s-power-medical.html


I'm not trying to change your mind, or argue. I just want to point out to anyone out there who is wondering about these things, that there are reasons some of us feel differently and are still pro-life.