Dr. Not Yet Dr. Ag said:
nortex97 said:
Dr. Not Yet Dr. Ag said:
I dismissed it because it is an absolutely terrible study. But don't take my word for it, take the word of the journal that published it, and subsequently retracted it.
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapediatrics/fullarticle/2782288
Show me, Mr. Facts, the correlation between cases and hospitalizations/deaths, vs. mask usage. Thank you sir.
BTW, that retraction was due to skepticism (politics), not facts/statistics. Nor was it to the only article/analysis I linked. Thx for playing.
Where in any of this discussion were you and I talking about mask efficacy? Seems like a bizarre non sequitur.
Also interesting how your first inclination is to blame "politics" for the paper retraction without any evidence for this and completely ignoring the specific concerns brought up by the journal it was published in. Not everything in life is about politics.
As for the other paper, I don't have time to read 60+ studies regarding a topic any nurse or physician knows to be a non-issue (mask safety). Myself as well as my colleagues wear masks and N95s sometimes >14 hours in a day without any ill effect, outside of a bit of discomfort. We get it, you don't like masks, but let's not make silly arguments about how they are dangerous. If that were the case, we would have healthcare workers dropping like flies.
Thank you for confirming you have no correlation between mask usage and cases/deaths/hospitalizations. Not sure why that is a matter you haven't pondered, but it doesn't imply healthcare workers should be dropping like flies. You're not a hero for wearing a mask at work, lot's of us have.
Moreover, it's not about who wears what type in a hospital/operating room, it IS about widespread public masking and in particular kids. If it's not efficacious, we need to stop doing it. It is not.
You may not like the feedback, but it is real.
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A new study, involving over 25,000 school-aged children, shows that masks are harming schoolchildren physically, psychologically, and behaviorally, revealing 24 distinct health issues associated with wearing masks.
The health issues and impairments observed in this study were found to affect 68% of masked children who are forced to wear a face covering for an average of 4.5 hours per day. The study also includes 17,854 health complaints submitted by parents.
Some of the health issues found in the study include: increased headaches (53%), difficulty concentrating (50%), drowsiness or fatigue (37%), malaise (42%), and nearly a third of children experience more sleep issues than they had previously and a quarter of children developed new fears.
Though these results are concerning, the study also found that 29.7% of children experienced shortness of breath, 26.4% experienced dizziness, and hundreds of the participants experiencing accelerated respiration, tightness in chest, weakness, and short-term impairment of consciousness.
The study authors noted the lack of unbiased research on this topic:
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"There are no manufacturer-independent studies on the use of masks for children and adolescents that are certified as medical products for occupational safety in professional applications. In addition, due to the unknown materials used, there are no findings on the potential protective effects or side effects of the often home-made 'everyday masks' worn by the majority of children. In view of the ongoing measures to contain the COVID-19 pandemic, and in particular the varying obligations for children and adolescents to wear masks in school over a longer period of time, there is an urgent need for research."
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The mask mandates are especially cruel to young children. Adults are supposed to ease their fears, to reassure them that monsters aren't hiding under the bed. Instead, we're frightening them into believing they're being stalked by invisible menaces lurking in the air. A year of mask-wearing will scar some of them psychologicallyand maybe physically, too, according to a team of Italian professors of plastic surgery, who warn that the prolonged pressure from the elastic straps could leave young children with permanently protruding ears. By hiding teachers' lips and muffling their speech, mask-wearing makes it harder for young children to develop linguistic skills and prevents children with hearing impairments from lip reading. Unable to rely on facial cues, teachers and students of all ages are more likely to misinterpret one other, a particularly acute problem for children on the autism spectrum. How are children supposed to develop social skills when they can't see one another's faces, sit together, or play together?
Researchers from the University of Witten/Herdecke in Germany have catalogued other problems. They established an online registry for parents to report on the side effects of mask-wearing. Among the nearly 18,000 parents who chose to respond (not a random sample, obviously), more than half reported that the masks were giving their children headaches and making it difficult for them to concentrate. More than one-third cited other side effects: increased reluctance to go to school, unhappiness, malaise, impaired learning, drowsiness, and fatigue.
So, bad for kids, as I stated. Then you've decided there aren't good studies to your standards/it's irrelevant if widespread mask usage impacts on cases.
Here's the deal; it matters because we shouldn't be doing it on a widespread basis at all if it doesn't work, and certainly not for kids. That you don't care or consider it a non sequitur is pretty pathetic. Again, 'do no harm.' Something about oaths and caring about what you are professionally advocating for.
https://reason.com/2021/05/27/study-mask-mandates-didnt-help-slow-spread-of-covid-19/ https://teamtuckercarlson.com/news/52-charts-show-mask-mandates-have-no-effect-on-covid-cases/It's not politics, you're right,
we have the data and know it doesn't work.
