According to that site Texas is peaking.

At that pace we will be at herd immunity in no time. Excellent news.

I'm shocked that 235k people were willing to waste time getting tested.

My God, Florida and Louisiana are dumpster fires. Hospital capacity is now a serious concern. I pray we peak soon.

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My God, Florida and Louisiana are dumpster fires. Hospital capacity is now a serious concern. I pray we peak soon.

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Louisiana's governor instituted a mask mandate last week. So they should be over it any day now.


Right?

https://www.al.com/news/2021/08/all-mississippi-icu-beds-full-as-state-hits-covid-record.html

No ICU beds in MS. Not far from that in AL. This is the most concerning aspect of these surges. Normal hospital healthcare (non covid) becomes difficult if not impossible to obtain. And that is a shame going on 2 years into this very soon.

Um, no. Mask mandates dont magically undo damage already done. Hopefully in a few weeks it will slow the numbers down, but that'll only happen if people actually comply.

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https://www.al.com/news/2021/08/all-mississippi-icu-beds-full-as-state-hits-covid-record.html

No ICU beds in MS. Not far from that in AL. This is the most concerning aspect of these surges. Normal hospital healthcare (non covid) becomes difficult if not impossible to obtain. And that is a shame going on 2 years into this very soon.

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I also read that the Austin metro area (as in, Travis county and all the surrounding counties) have only 2 ICU beds available, as of this morning.

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Um, no. Mask mandates dont magically undo damage already done. Hopefully in a few weeks it will slow the numbers down, but that'll only happen if people actually comply.

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In a few weeks it will reduce on its own. Just like last summer.

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Um, no. Mask mandates dont magically undo damage already done. Hopefully in a few weeks it will slow the numbers down, but that'll only happen if people actually comply.

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you seem like a serious conscientious guy

do you think minimum standard masking actually works?

because i can't see any evidence of that at all. i think masking is a visible reminder we're in a crisis, so in that respect, i guess it works in some sort of fight or flight way.

but practically, i can't see how anyone concludes that cloth masking is effective with this variant in particular

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Um, no. Mask mandates dont magically undo damage already done. Hopefully in a few weeks it will slow the numbers down, but that'll only happen if people actually comply.

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Masks work and if masks aren't working it's because people aren't wearing masks because masks work.

Absolute clown world. How are people still buying this **** after seeing it not work over and over?

from Yale

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Why is it disconcerting?

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Full ICUs, limited hospital beds. It's not ideal.

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larry culpepper said:

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Um, no. Mask mandates dont magically undo damage already done. Hopefully in a few weeks it will slow the numbers down, but that'll only happen if people actually comply.

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Masks work and if masks aren't working it's because people aren't wearing masks because masks work.

Absolute clown world. How are people still buying this **** after seeing it not work over and over?

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Masking up and getting vaccinated has worked great in countries that have actually implemented those practices. Look at Canada and the UK. No one ever said masks are perfect. But when most people are using them in public, they have an effect.

And none of your mocking me and whining about it changes that.

The UK just had a huge scary spike. But I guess masks were responsible at the end of it but not the beginning. We are a little behind the UK.

But masks!

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larry culpepper said:

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Um, no. Mask mandates dont magically undo damage already done. Hopefully in a few weeks it will slow the numbers down, but that'll only happen if people actually comply.

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Masks work and if masks aren't working it's because people aren't wearing masks because masks work.

Absolute clown world. How are people still buying this **** after seeing it not work over and over?

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Masking up and getting vaccinated has worked great in countries that have actually implemented those practices. Look at Canada and the UK. No one ever said masks are perfect. But when most people are using them in public, they have an effect.

And none of your mocking me and whining about it changes that.

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Oh yeah, the UK has more deaths per million than the US. Great success story for masking. Good Lord.

I think if anything you see that the Delta variant is more transmittable

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SHHHHHHH... don't screw up the narrative with those pesky facts!

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The UK just had a huge scary spike. But I guess masks were responsible at the end of it but not the beginning. We are a little behind the UK. Your mask religion is absurd.

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Grow up and keep your stupid petty insults for the forum 16 cesspool.

Here's something for your reading pleasure.

https://www.kxan.com/news/coronavirus/do-face-masks-work-here-are-49-scientific-studies-that-explain-why-they-do/


I'm not advocating that we go back into a statewide mask order but dont be surprised if private businesses start requiring them again. As far as the UK, they managed their spike pretty well with widespread masks and vaccination campaigns. Other European countries have had similar experience. And Canada is nearing the end of the pandemic.

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Other variables changed. Isolating a single variable is incredibly misleading and a deliberately poor representation of how these things work. It's just ****ty analysis.

The point of wearing masks is to turn say a 1.6 Rt into a 1.4 Rt on a macro level. It's not a panacea and has never been called one. But the only way to evaluate if masks work would be to compare the results to what they would be without masks with all other variables being equal. It's entirely possible the outcome would be worse without masks. All those charts tell you is that seasonal variables and noe the delta varaint are larger variables for transmission than anything else. Things that everybody already knows.

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The point of wearing masks is to turn say a 1.6 Rt into a 1.4 Rt on a macro level.

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i've never seen a control group to prove even that level of efficacy

i do think masks have a practical application, but mostly used to signal a continuation of hostilities, effectively

a cloth mask might not practically do anything with regard to aerosol spread indoors, but it's a reminder that we need to be careful

i get that, but let's not fetishize it as a legit layer of protection

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The UK just had a huge scary spike. But I guess masks were responsible at the end of it but not the beginning. We are a little behind the UK. Your mask religion is absurd.

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Grow up and keep your stupid petty insults for the forum 16 cesspool.

Here's something for your reading pleasure.

https://www.kxan.com/news/coronavirus/do-face-masks-work-here-are-49-scientific-studies-that-explain-why-they-do/


I'm not advocating that we go back into a statewide mask order but dont be surprised if private businesses start requiring them again. As far as the UK, they managed their spike pretty well with widespread masks and vaccination campaigns. Other European countries have had similar experience. And Canada is nearing the end of the pandemic.

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The evidence is clear and overwhelming. Masking doesn't work. Period. Despite the evidence you cling to it. I admit calling it a religion isn't appropriate because at least religions haven't had their faiths disproved.

with widespread access to effective vaccines, masking just seems like an acceptance of failure

larry culpepper said:

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The UK just had a huge scary spike. But I guess masks were responsible at the end of it but not the beginning. We are a little behind the UK. Your mask religion is absurd.

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Grow up and keep your stupid petty insults for the forum 16 cesspool.

Here's something for your reading pleasure.

https://www.kxan.com/news/coronavirus/do-face-masks-work-here-are-49-scientific-studies-that-explain-why-they-do/


I'm not advocating that we go back into a statewide mask order but dont be surprised if private businesses start requiring them again. As far as the UK, they managed their spike pretty well with widespread masks and vaccination campaigns. Other European countries have had similar experience. And Canada is nearing the end of the pandemic.

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I remember this time last summer when people claimed Europe handled covid perfectly. What happened after that?