Exercise Drops Odds of Being Infected & Dying, Scientists Find

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1:20p, 8/9/21
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Regular exercisers have reduced probability of contracting the Covid virus.

Very interesting and obviously what a lot of us have felt like was the case. Hence why I always question whether these "healthy" people who died or had severe Covid cases were really current athletes/training moderately to intensely (what the study defines as the group least affected by the virus150 minutes a week of moderate to intense exercise) at the time they were infected. We all read about a marathon runner or other sport athlete but I always questioned whether that was a person who wasn't currently training and maybe had taken a year or 2 off, etc. Not that it wasn't possible for sure, just that this study shows that it was unlikely...

Also, I'd like to see the efforts from the medical community to emphasize adding exercise to the need for a vaccine. We really haven't seen any real efforts by those advising us like Fauci to get off your ass and start a serious workout regiment and eat a lot better. I'd argue that alone is 10X better than masking...
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In reply to Capitol Ag • 1:57p, 8/9/21
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We've been pushing exercise and healthy life style for > 60 years at least. You can see the results at wal-mart sadly.

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2:29p, 8/9/21
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You can stick a million dollars in front of an obese person and the overwhelming majority of them will still not get off their ass. Covid was never going to change people's desire to get in shape.
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In reply to Capitol Ag • 2:36p, 8/9/21
Big pharma profits over you being perpetually sick so you won't see the advertising campaigns to get healthy, lose weight or even take cheap supplements, especially Vitamin D. Plus it would be considered fat shaming.

Good doctors will push for weight loss on an individual level. But they've been telling patients to lose weight for decades. The problem is either the patient isnt interested in changing their lifestyle or they adopt the false premise of Calories In Calories Out, "healthy" carbs and cardio exercise.

Cardio can be great. There are some carbs that are healthy. But if people want to lose weight, the best method is low carb high fat for the most people. Most people eat 250g of carbs a day and have high levels of inflammation.
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2:45p, 8/9/21
MSM is pushing the body positive movement instead of telling fat people that it is bad for your health to be fat. It will always be bad for your health to be fat.
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In reply to ham98 • 2:50p, 8/9/21
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ham98 said:
MSM is pushing the body positive movement instead of telling fat people that it is bad for your health to be fat. It will always be bad for your health to be fat.


Yep, we're putting obese people on magazine covers as though it's some ideal. People are so fat that even obese people don't think they're that fat because they see enough even fatter people.
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3:17p, 8/9/21
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Sadly these are all very good points.
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3:36p, 8/9/21
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For a healthier society, please:

1) get vaccinated
2) stay home if sick
3) engage in rigorous exercise for at least 30 minutes, at least 3x per week
4) drink less soda and sugary crap and drink more water
5) moderate alcohol consumption. if you drink every day, cut it back. don't get sloshed every weekend.
6) eat better. cook more meals at home and dine out less often.

if everyone did all of this we'd have a pretty dang healthy America.
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https://bjsm.bmj.com/content/early/2021/04/07/bjsports-2021-104080

Conclusions Consistently meeting physical activity guidelines was strongly associated with a reduced risk for severe COVID-19 outcomes among infected adults. We recommend efforts to promote physical activity be prioritised by public health agencies and incorporated into routine medical care.
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In reply to ham98 • 3:43p, 8/9/21
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ham98 said:
MSM is pushing the body positive movement instead of telling fat people that it is bad for your health to be fat. It will always be bad for your health to be fat.
MSM doesn't have a secret agenda, MSM shows/tells people what they want to see/hear to make money.
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In reply to Drip99 • 3:49p, 8/9/21
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JesusQuintana said:
https://bjsm.bmj.com/content/early/2021/04/07/bjsports-2021-104080

Conclusions Consistently meeting physical activity guidelines was strongly associated with a reduced risk for severe COVID-19 outcomes among infected adults. We recommend efforts to promote physical activity be prioritised by public health agencies and incorporated into routine medical care.


This never happened in the US...cause it is mean to say that being fat is harmful to your health!
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In reply to Skillet Shot • 3:55p, 8/9/21
Skillet Shot said:
Big pharma profits over you being perpetually sick so you won't see the advertising campaigns to get healthy, lose weight or even take cheap supplements, especially Vitamin D. Plus it would be considered fat shaming.

Good doctors will push for weight loss on an individual level. But they've been telling patients to lose weight for decades. The problem is either the patient isnt interested in changing their lifestyle or they adopt the false premise of Calories In Calories Out, "healthy" carbs and cardio exercise.

Cardio can be great. There are some carbs that are healthy. But if people want to lose weight, the best method is low carb high fat for the most people. Most people eat 250g of carbs a day and have high levels of inflammation.

All carbs are definitely not equal. I've had success dropping weight with a diet which highly restricted carb intake and was much more high fat. However, it's not sustainable.

The weight is coming off more slowly but I feel substantially better by avoiding as much processed food as I can. Sticking with lean proteins, healthy/unprocessed fats (ie- organic grass-fed butter, etc), lots of raw fruit & veggies, steamed veggies, and so on. Avoiding breads, pastas, rice, potatoes, etc. Raw, unfiltered, local wildflower honey in my coffee instead of sugar or any of the processed stuff like stevia. And while not strict, sort of an intermittent fasting as I do my first workout (swimming approx. 1 mile per day) before I eat anything other than a little bit of my coffee, then I don't usually eat lunch until about 12:30.
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In reply to Skillet Shot • 4:35p, 8/9/21
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Skillet Shot said:
or they adopt the false premise of Calories In Calories Out,
oh teach us wise one!
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In reply to Diggity • 9:06p, 8/9/21
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Skillet Shot said:
or they adopt the false premise of Calories In Calories Out,
oh teach us wise one!


Not all calories are created equal.
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In reply to Skillet Shot • 9:23p, 8/9/21
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Skillet Shot said:
Big pharma profits over you being perpetually sick so you won't see the advertising campaigns to get healthy, lose weight or even take cheap supplements, especially Vitamin D. Plus it would be considered fat shaming.

Good doctors will push for weight loss on an individual level. But they've been telling patients to lose weight for decades. The problem is either the patient isnt interested in changing their lifestyle or they adopt the false premise of Calories In Calories Out, "healthy" carbs and cardio exercise.

Cardio can be great. There are some carbs that are healthy. But if people want to lose weight, the best method is low carb high fat for the most people. Most people eat 250g of carbs a day and have high levels of inflammation.


Macro type and intake are dependent on a lot of factors. For instance, 250 g of carbs or more like sweet potatoes, jasmin rice, fruit etc, is a staple for most strength and physique athletes I know. 1:1 to 1:2 protein to body weight as well. Not everyone get inflammatory issues from natural carbs. Plus high fat can lead to excess body fat. Usually not the goal of most I know training at the gym. Sure, extra body fat might be a necessary evil while tying to increase muscle mass, but only so much. I've found the balanced macro approach is best, sliding the scale for each macro depending on the current goal.
If you're a serious weight lifter than you don't want to eliminate carbs too much unless you just have a body type that responds well to a low carb diet. Granted, my world is sport athletes, body builders, strength and power liters and Olympic lifters. So nutrition is vital for performance and results. My personal experience is that eating and training like an athlete gives me my best health.
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In reply to KidDoc • 9:28p, 8/9/21
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KidDoc said:
We've been pushing exercise and healthy life style for > 60 years at least. You can see the results at wal-mart sadly.

Agreed. This is not an education issue, this is a behavior and lifestyle choice issue.

And yes, while pharma may be pushing medications and medicines, there's also a huge industry for healthy lifestyle management. A quick view on instagram will allow anyone to find people wanting to help others (for money) in exercising, healthy lifestyle or quality diets.

Do a google search for healthy lifestyle to lose weight, or something like that, and watch all the google advertisements and social media ads populate one's browser. It isn't that getting healthy isn't advertised, marketed, or sold, but while you can buy a Peloton or hire a personal trainer, there's still the undoing of a lot of years' habits that isn't easy.

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10:16p, 8/9/21
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Did someone say cheeseburger?

Conclusion: Working out should always help you keep your health up.. we can all agree on this one thing
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In reply to Capitol Ag • 12:41p, 8/10/21
Capitol Ag said:

Granted, my world is sport athletes, body builders, strength and power liters and Olympic lifters. So nutrition is vital for performance and results. My personal experience is that eating and training like an athlete gives me my best health.

One of the biggest issues for me when I stopped being an athlete was the nutritional transition. Going from eating 5000 calories per day and burning every bit of that to not working out that much or at that level of intensity and understanding nutritional needs was a huge change. Frankly, it took several years to figure it out.

Unless you're dealing with the people you're talking about I know that for me personally and virtually every person out there who isn't living in that world we all dramatically underestimate the amount of calories consumed and overestimate the amount of calories burned.
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3:36p, 8/10/21
We should force fat people on diets for the greater good. It's what's best for society.
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In reply to TheMasterplan • 3:55p, 8/10/21
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We should force fat people on diets for the greater good. It's what's best for society.
That would rock if they worked but decades of data show that short term diets only result in rebound weight gain. Sustainable behavior change is needed and people over 12 years of age are generally terrible at behavior change. Especially if mandated and not self inspired.

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In reply to TarponChaser • 5:01p, 8/10/21
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TarponChaser said:
Capitol Ag said:

Granted, my world is sport athletes, body builders, strength and power liters and Olympic lifters. So nutrition is vital for performance and results. My personal experience is that eating and training like an athlete gives me my best health.

One of the biggest issues for me when I stopped being an athlete was the nutritional transition. Going from eating 5000 calories per day and burning every bit of that to not working out that much or at that level of intensity and understanding nutritional needs was a huge change. Frankly, it took several years to figure it out.

Unless you're dealing with the people you're talking about I know that for me personally and virtually every person out there who isn't living in that world we all dramatically underestimate the amount of calories consumed and overestimate the amount of calories burned.
100% agree. Granted, some of my buddies also use, um, supplements lol. I do not and don't need them. I struggle to even eat 5000 calories. I always had thought a sweet potato had a lot of calories. They fill you up so much. But no. Rice has a lot more per serving. I am good to hit 3000 right now. But I eat clean, so it's hard to get the calories I actually need with an ectomorphic body type. Granted, I also went on a lot of trips this summer, and I do not eat clean on those. So I am in the process of losing a little body fat.
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