per CDC- that's the figure for blacks.
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Nearly 70% unvaccinated
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The CDC reported today that only 28.4% of the black community have received the Covid vaccine. With states like CA and NY mandating vaccine passports to enter restaurants and businesses, the black community would be most affected by this modern day segregation
— Dr. Drew (@drdrew) August 4, 2021
Everyone in this country has ample access (with rare exception) to the vaccine. It is a choice. People are free to make that choice. No reason to break it out by groups unless the goal is to somehow blame this on racism, and I am sure that is the goal of releasing this data and the Hollywood doctor tweeting about it.
I don't think anyone is saying that there has been an attempt to prevent Blacks from getting the vaccine (racism). However, there is a lot of vaccine hesitancy amount the Black community. There was a lot of mentions of the Tuskegee syphilis experiments in the media over the last year as a example of why the Black community doesn't trust the medical establishment. If you take that mistrust and combine it with a bit of the anti vaccine message (not approved, not safe, rushed, hasn't been tested enough, and the other crazy stuff) it is very easy to see why the community may resist vaccination.Gizzards said:
Everyone in this country has ample access (with rare exception) to the vaccine. It is a choice. People are free to make that choice. No reason to break it out by groups unless the goal is to somehow blame this on racism, and I am sure that is the goal of releasing this data and the Hollywood doctor tweeting about it.
This even goes back to the vaccine trials. There was an major effort to make sure the test subjects were appropriately diverse, to counter a long standing issue where clinical trials are mainly conducted on white people and in some cases outcomes don't match completely. Even with the effort towards diversity from the beginning, at least one of the trials was delayed because they were struggling to enroll enough minorities.
The unvaccinated have been primarily portrayed as crazy trumper republicans. It is easy to decree punishment of a demonized group, but the law of unintended consequences is always around the corner.
Crying racism after NYC made vaccine passports required to dine inside is political theater and nothing more.
The black community must be getting their vaccine information from watching foxnews and following Q.
Right?
Right?
I would wager that Dr Drew, based on previous statements he has made, is part liberal, part libertarian. He is pretty clearly using the language that mainstream liberals use to decry literally everything, against themselves.
There is also a pretty clear reason to break out vaccination rates by groups if your goal is to vaccinate the most people possible. You would need to know which groups are lagging and why...and the answer doesn't always have to be "racism" (unless you're a liberal politician).
There is also a pretty clear reason to break out vaccination rates by groups if your goal is to vaccinate the most people possible. You would need to know which groups are lagging and why...and the answer doesn't always have to be "racism" (unless you're a liberal politician).
Bad title. Nationally we have reached 70%.
What does that have to do with OP? He's talking about the black population being 70% unvaccinated.
This stat by Dr. Drew is technically correct but is presented in a way to be misleading. This rate for the black community is the entire population including children, while the CNBC video that shows overall rate of 70% does NOT include children. Yes blacks are lagging in vaccine rate but its not as big as a gap as some make it out to be.
According to the CDC, 33% of the total white population is fully vaccinated vs 28.6 of the black population. The next lowest demographic after blacks is Hispanics at 31%.
https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#vaccination-demographics-trends
According to the CDC, 33% of the total white population is fully vaccinated vs 28.6 of the black population. The next lowest demographic after blacks is Hispanics at 31%.
https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#vaccination-demographics-trends
The real issue is leaders in the African-American community need to be preaching protection of each other through vaccination if they want to help prevent death among their community. The "leaders" should include the African-American politicians, community organizers and democratic leaders of all colors that were so fervent in organizing the community events that led to the voter registration of African-Americans in the 2020 election, things such as street concerts, carnivals etc. Perhaps they've done this but I have not seen any publicity about it. I will stop here on this theme to try to refrain from any negative political commentary.
I do not have an excessive concern with COVID but I'm also not concerned with the vaccine and I want those that it might help the most to get it. Knowing that African-Americans have a higher percentage of individuals with health issues such as diabetes and obesity and less access to health care and proper nutrition in many of their communities, COVID is a greater threat to them and the vaccine would probably be more beneficial to their community.
And with his comment, Dr. Drew is making this racist in a way that is totally not intended by the state's rules no matter how stupid I think the rule is.
I do not have an excessive concern with COVID but I'm also not concerned with the vaccine and I want those that it might help the most to get it. Knowing that African-Americans have a higher percentage of individuals with health issues such as diabetes and obesity and less access to health care and proper nutrition in many of their communities, COVID is a greater threat to them and the vaccine would probably be more beneficial to their community.
And with his comment, Dr. Drew is making this racist in a way that is totally not intended by the state's rules no matter how stupid I think the rule is.
This has been happening. I volunteered recently at a vaccine drive in 5th Ward, which is in Houston and primarily minority populated. Leaders from a nearby church and mosque were there. One had a megaphone telling all passersby to get the free vaccine to help themselves and the community. They were giving away bbq. There was a voter registration drive. They've done this over several weekends.AggieBiker said:
The real issue is leaders in the African-American community need to be preaching protection of each other through vaccination if they want to help prevent death among their community. The "leaders" should include the African-American politicians, community organizers and democratic leaders of all colors that were so fervent in organizing the community events that led to the voter registration of African-Americans in the 2020 election, things such as street concerts, carnivals etc. Perhaps they've done this but I have not seen any publicity about it. I will stop here on this theme to try to refrain from any negative political commentary.
As of Aug 4 Texas stands at
63.5% (at least one shot) - 12 or older
53.2% fully vaccinated - 12 or older
For a state this big, I call this a big win.
63.5% (at least one shot) - 12 or older
53.2% fully vaccinated - 12 or older
For a state this big, I call this a big win.
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This is incorrect but it took me a good bit of reviewing the website graphs to understand why your interpretation of the graph is mistaken. The percentages on the graph are based only on the vaccinations for which they have ethnicity information. In the case of fully vaccinated the CDC only has racial information on 68% of the individuals. For confirmation, look at the small print above the "AT LEAST ONE DOSE" graph. If your interpretation was correct there would be no way we could have the 49.8% of the total US population vaccinated that they also report at the CDC COVID Vaccination site.Forum Troll said:
This stat by Dr. Drew is technically correct but is presented in a way to be misleading. This rate for the black community is the entire population including children, while the CNBC video that shows overall rate of 70% does NOT include children. Yes blacks are lagging in vaccine rate but its not as big as a gap as some make it out to be.
According to the CDC, 33% of the total white population is fully vaccinated vs 28.6 of the black population. The next lowest demographic after blacks is Hispanics at 31%.
https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#vaccination-demographics-trends
Thanks for volunteering and thanks for pointing this out. I see that SJL has hosted 24 vaccination campaigns, that's good. There needs to be a lot of this and louder voices pushing for vaccination among African-Americans. I hope people will respond and get protected.
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There is definitely some issues with the data on that page. If you click around, it does seem to suggest only ~30% of white people have been vaccinated as well. We know that 50% of the country is fully vaccinated, including children, so those numbers seem off. I'm not sure how we are supposed to read it.AggieBiker said:This is incorrect but it took me a good bit of reviewing the website graphs to understand why your interpretation of the graph is mistaken. The percentages on the graph are based only on the vaccinations for which they have ethnicity information. In the case of fully vaccinated the CDC only has racial information on 68% of the individuals. For confirmation, look at the small print above the "AT LEAST ONE DOSE" graph. If your interpretation was correct there would be no way we could have the 49.8% of the total US population vaccinated that they also report at the CDC COVID Vaccination site.Forum Troll said:
This stat by Dr. Drew is technically correct but is presented in a way to be misleading. This rate for the black community is the entire population including children, while the CNBC video that shows overall rate of 70% does NOT include children. Yes blacks are lagging in vaccine rate but its not as big as a gap as some make it out to be.
According to the CDC, 33% of the total white population is fully vaccinated vs 28.6 of the black population. The next lowest demographic after blacks is Hispanics at 31%.
https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#vaccination-demographics-trends
Quote:
The CDC reports demographic characteristics, including race/ethnicity, of people receiving COVID-19 vaccinations at the national level. As of August 2, 2021, CDC reported that race/ethnicity was known for 58% of people who had received at least one dose of the vaccine. Among this group, nearly two thirds were White (59%), 10% were Black, 16% were Hispanic, 6% were Asian, 1% were American Indian or Alaska Native, and <1% were Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander, while 8% reported multiple or other race. However, CDC data also show that recent vaccinations are reaching larger shares of Hispanic, Asian, and Black populations compared to overall vaccinations. Twenty-six percent of vaccines administered in the past 14 days have gone to Hispanic people, 4% to Asian people, and 15% to Black people (Figure 1). These recent patterns suggest a narrowing of racial gaps in vaccinations at the national level, particularly for Hispanic and Black people, who account for a larger share of recent vaccinations compared to their share of the total population (26% vs. 17% and 15% vs. 12%, respectively). While these data provide helpful insights at a national level, to date, CDC is not publicly reporting state-level data on the racial/ethnic composition of people vaccinated.
I think I figured it out.
As the poster said before, the CDC only knows the ethnicity of 58% of people who have had the vaccine. The data which CDC is showing is the number of people vaccinated by ethnicity of known ethnicity. The percentages they are showing are dividing the number of KNOWN ETHNICITY vaccinated by TOTAL ETHNICITY in US population (kids + adults), even though only 58% of vaccinations have known ethnicity.
Therefore, the numerator and denominator are measuring different things.
If you use 58% of the known US population as the denominator you get:
That's closer, but still not quite up to the 50% of total US population fully vaccinated which is reality.
As the poster said before, the CDC only knows the ethnicity of 58% of people who have had the vaccine. The data which CDC is showing is the number of people vaccinated by ethnicity of known ethnicity. The percentages they are showing are dividing the number of KNOWN ETHNICITY vaccinated by TOTAL ETHNICITY in US population (kids + adults), even though only 58% of vaccinations have known ethnicity.
Therefore, the numerator and denominator are measuring different things.
If you use 58% of the known US population as the denominator you get:
- 46% of White Non Hispanic fully vaccinated
- 35% of Black Non Hispanic fully vaccinated
- 43% of Latino / Hispanic fully vaccinated
That's closer, but still not quite up to the 50% of total US population fully vaccinated which is reality.
And 90% of that 70% don't actually know a thing about the Tuskegee experiments.
I have wondered if the last months of talking about vaccine hesitancy in minority communities and the Tuskegee experiments was really driven by the minority community awareness of the Tuskegee experiments or just something the media trots out to justify the vaccine hesitancy.Squadron7 said:
And 90% of that 70% don't actually know a thing about the Tuskegee experiments.
BiochemAg97 said:I have wondered if the last months of talking about vaccine hesitancy in minority communities and the Tuskegee experiments was really driven by the minority community awareness of the Tuskegee experiments or just something the media trots out to justify the vaccine hesitancy.Squadron7 said:
And 90% of that 70% don't actually know a thing about the Tuskegee experiments.
The latter.
Our current public school system produces students that couldn't tell you the fifty states if you provided them a blank map or tell you with 5 years either way when D-Day happened.
Do you think they actually know anything about Tuskegee?
And the ones that do know about Tuskegee...well, you can't really blame them for having trust issues with Democrats handing out medicines.
I wonder how medical tourism effects the numbers. I have heard anecdotally from a number of people about traveling for outside the US to the US to get the vaccine. I assume mostly expats, so still US citizens, but it does skew the numbers a vaccinated per US population as little bit.HotardAg07 said:
I think I figured it out.
As the poster said before, the CDC only knows the ethnicity of 58% of people who have had the vaccine. The data which CDC is showing is the number of people vaccinated by ethnicity of known ethnicity. The percentages they are showing are dividing the number of KNOWN ETHNICITY vaccinated by TOTAL ETHNICITY in US population (kids + adults), even though only 58% of vaccinations have known ethnicity.
Therefore, the numerator and denominator are measuring different things.
If you use 58% of the known US population as the denominator you get:
- 46% of White Non Hispanic fully vaccinated
- 35% of Black Non Hispanic fully vaccinated
- 43% of Latino / Hispanic fully vaccinated
That's closer, but still not quite up to the 50% of total US population fully vaccinated which is reality.
I don't believe in mandates or even coercion or manipulation in regards to vaccines. But comparing it to racial segregation is absurd. Vaccination status is not an immutable characteristic like race.
AggieUSMC said:
I don't believe in mandates or even coercion or manipulation in regards to vaccines. But comparing it to racial segregation is absurd. Vaccination status is not an immutable characteristic like race.
Didn't you get the memo? Race and even sex are social constructs.
It is why Shaun King must suffer through constant and dehumanizing racial discrimination even though nobody anywhere actually thinks he's black.
SJL gets plenty of grief and much deservedly so, but on this she's apparently doing the work.AggieBiker said:
Thanks for volunteering and thanks for pointing this out. I see that SJL has hosted 24 vaccination campaigns, that's good. There needs to be a lot of this and louder voices pushing for vaccination among African-Americans. I hope people will respond and get protected.
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Squadron7 said:BiochemAg97 said:I have wondered if the last months of talking about vaccine hesitancy in minority communities and the Tuskegee experiments was really driven by the minority community awareness of the Tuskegee experiments or just something the media trots out to justify the vaccine hesitancy.Squadron7 said:
And 90% of that 70% don't actually know a thing about the Tuskegee experiments.
The latter.
Our current public school system produces students that couldn't tell you the fifty states if you provided them a blank map or tell you with 5 years either way when D-Day happened.
Do you think they actually know anything about Tuskegee?
And the ones that do know about Tuskegee...well, you can't really blame them for having trust issues with Democrats handing out medicines.
I agree on the latter. I personally did not know about the Tuskegee experiments until I went to grad school in Auburn in 1990 and gave a presentation on it for research ethics... Auburn is about 20 minutes up the road from Tuskegee.
Anecdotally, I interact with a lot of foster parents that are African-American. Initially, seemingly every AA I asked about getting vaccinated said hell no. Now it seems [edited to add WELL over half.... probably 80+ percent] (at least the ones I interact with that are foster parents). I brought up the Tuskegee experiments and asked if that was a contributor in their choice. None had ever heard of it (N= about 20). This was more in 2020, I don't really bring it up anymore, other than asking if they want me to wear a mask when I enter their home (they all say "nah" now).
Or, I dunno, to acknowledge that we are not a monolithic society and different outreach strategies will be more effective with different groups. Or, I dunno, to be proactive in mobilizing health care to communities that will need it more or to target informational campaigns.Gizzards said:
Everyone in this country has ample access (with rare exception) to the vaccine. It is a choice. People are free to make that choice. No reason to break it out by groups unless the goal is to somehow blame this on racism, and I am sure that is the goal of releasing this data and the Hollywood doctor tweeting about it.
What does it say about the messaging from our government and elsewhere that we have to advertise and actively campaign for people to take the vaccine for a virus that is hopefully the worst thing we will encounter in my lifetime?
And I am not against the vaccine but I think you're a moron if you need an add on tik tok or Instagram to convince you that the vaccine is a good (Or bad) decision for you.
And I am not against the vaccine but I think you're a moron if you need an add on tik tok or Instagram to convince you that the vaccine is a good (Or bad) decision for you.
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