There's a lot of assertion that if you're vaccinated its a milder experience: fever, sore throat, etc. Get better, move on.

Is there any data about what the impact of contraction is to unvaccinated people?

No doubt, it's more contagious; but is there actually advanced discomfort/risk to unvaccinated folks vs what we saw last year? I'm not meaning hospitalizations/deaths, I'm talking about the ordinary cases of the caliber most folks dealt with over the last year.

I dont think anyone knows for sure what they have.

It requires whole genome sequencing to figure out if its Delta or not and they definitely arent doing that for every test out there.

CDC Leak: No difference between vaccinated and unvaccinated with "Delta" https://www.kiro7.com/news/trending/leaked-cdc-report-delta-variant-contagious-chickenpox/PCMGBTRERRDWJKWIO6XBSZYYQY/

The document uses unpublished data and outside studies that officials say show that even vaccinated people are able to spread the virus as if they were unvaccinated and that they have similar delta variant viral loads as those who are not vaccinated, the Post reported.

Most probably do not realize they have it because the symptoms are so mild.

Are you old, fat, or severely ill? If not, you're good.

That there's no data out there on this and that, even this board can't provide an objective response really makes me wonder what we're so much more worried about with this... I understand contagiousness is frightening but if it's evolving toward a less dangerous disease, that seems relevant- but no one talks about that...

https://covid.joinzoe.com/post/new-top-5-covid-symptoms

That's really helpful- thanks for sharing! So the recorded incremental effect ranges from taste to fever going down the vax/non-vax spectrum.

Is the crescendo of hysteria warranted then?

BadMoonRisin said:

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I dont think anyone knows for sure what they have.

It requires whole genome sequencing to figure out if its Delta or not and they definitely arent doing that for every test out there.

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Current cases of covid are probably delta at this point. Maybe unless you're in a very rural area that doesn't see a lot of population movement through it?

Utah (where I'm at) has it graphed out quite nicely for their state. 89.5% of tested cases are Delta.

https://coronavirus-dashboard.utah.gov/trends.html

who knows :shrug:

Delta isn't too different from the original. Otherwise the vaccines and natural immunity wouldn't offer "protection"

I had covid for two weeks, it ended last Saturday. I can only assume I had the Delta variant, they don't tell you. I will say it was awful. 12 days straight of fever, got as high as 103.9. Developed pneumonia the final 4 days. I have not been vaccinated.

thenational said:

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I had covid for two weeks, it ended last Saturday. I can only assume I had the Delta variant, they don't tell you. I will say it was awful. 12 days straight of fever, got as high as 103.9. Developed pneumonia the final 4 days. I have not been vaccinated.

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Was it awful enough that you would:

• get vaxed before you got sick if you could do it over again?
• recommend to everyone, some people, certain groups of people they should get vaxed?
• get vaxed now that you've been sick and survived?

Thanks in advance for sharing your thoughts.

I don't really know, I'm not for the vaccination at all. No one in my family has gotten it (3 kids, wife). We all were positive, so no reason to get it now. I'm really the only one that got it bad. At one point, I felt so bad I think I would have done anything to feel better, and I even thought that I would have felt better had I gotten it.

Not so sure now. It's just bizarre and weird.

Appreciate that. I feel normal again.

Also, I'm 51, just very slight high blood pressure. Other than that, nothing that would increase risk. Just FYI.

I had it a few weeks ago. Had a fever for 6 days, developed pneumonia, o2 dropped to 89, spent 5 days in the hospital on o2, steroids and meds. It's been 18 days since I got out and I'm almost normal again.

I'm pro vaccine for at risk individuals. Anti vaccine for everyone else. That said if I had a time machine I would have gotten the vaccine if it meant I would have avoided my experience.

I'm 37, 5'9" 190lbs and pretty healthy.

Wife and I have COVID right now - or did. Both tested positive for COVID on Tuesday, at different facilities. She had Pfizer 5 months ago and I had J&J, about the same time. I felt like I had a light 48 hour flu, did not impede my ability to function.

Then it migrated to my upper chest a few days ago and has pretty much cleared up today. I had some sinus discomfort as well, but again nothing like the bi-annual sinus infection I get with seasonal allergies.

So, in summary, for me, it felt like a very light annual flu - EXCEPT - I lost my sense of taste and smell. My wife's symptoms were a little more severe, body aches, she felt like she had a fever but never registered one and a headache. She was in bed for a few days.

My sense from trying to distill down the "news" is, as the virus mutates into more easily spreadable and less lethal variants, and we get herd immunity, this will be become, or maybe has become, the new flu. In fact, it is a virus just like the flu. And then we'll move on under the normal flu-paradigm.

I am going to go and get the Pfizer shots, and frankly, probably get one every 6 months.

The concerning aspect of this is why does it cause us to loose taste and smell? There are clearly things about the origin of the virus that will likely never be known.

I personally welcome our new virus Overlords....

KidDoc said:

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It damages your olfactory nerve on it's journey from your nose to your trachea.

Nerve damage takes a long time to heal and sometimes never heals quite right. That is why you see these long haulers with neuro effects including smell/taste issues.

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Question for you - I still have an attenuated sense of smell - very quick to habituate, sometimes cannot smell a particular odor (had covid Christmas 2020) but had a minimal illness and afaik have no other lingering symptoms. Are there neurological things I should be looking for (ie am I just missing something) or can one just have a changed sense of smell by itself?

If it was mild you likely contained it to that nerve near the entry point of the virus (your nose) and it didn't get to anything else in the frontal lobe. So likely nothing to worry about just annoying. Most of the reports show trouble with memory and focus on difficult mental tasks.

MisterScott said:

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Wife and I have COVID right now - or did. Both tested positive for COVID on Tuesday, at different facilities. She had Pfizer 5 months ago and I had J&J, about the same time. I felt like I had a light 48 hour flu, did not impede my ability to function.

Then it migrated to my upper chest a few days ago and has pretty much cleared up today. I had some sinus discomfort as well, but again nothing like the bi-annual sinus infection I get with seasonal allergies.

So, in summary, for me, it felt like a very light annual flu - EXCEPT - I lost my sense of taste and smell. My wife's symptoms were a little more severe, body aches, she felt like she had a fever but never registered one and a headache. She was in bed for a few days.

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This describe me to a T so far (pending test results).

Sunday - light cough but overall fine.

Monday -
Morning - woke up with lots of sinus pressure. Loss of smell, reduced taste. Spent day coughing/sneezing out yellow phlegm.
Evening - Most sinus pressure gone, ears clogged. Took tylenol pm cold/flu to get good sleep.

Tuesday - Sinuses basically clear. Left ear unclogged. Coughing some, but think I irritated my chest yesterday trying to hack things up. O2 is at 98%. If I could smell (which maybe I'm tricking myself, but I thought was faint today), I'd say I was just getting over a cold.

My wife is about a day or so ahead of me time wise and she was a lot more fatigued yesterday, but felt basically normal yesterday (outside of smell).

I think my wife and I are about to get past this thing. Symptom wise she really got sick thurs/friday with loss of smell on Sunday. My initial symptoms were much more mild and my only real "bad" day was Monday when I had lots of sinus pressure and lost my smell.

Wife hasn't taken any sort of medicine in nearly 2 days and feels pretty good overall. Her smell is also starting to slowly come back.

Most of the sinus stuff is gone for me. Smell is still gone. My cough has turned productive today and getting quite a bit out.

In case anybody is interested here's what I've been taking:

These taken 2x per day

HEB Brand Quercetin Complex
100mg Vit C
15mg Magnesium
250mg Quercetin
25mg Bromelain

Immuneti
330mg Vit C
25mcg Vit D
11mg Zinc
380mg Elderberry
200mg Garlic
200mg Echinacea
5mg black pepper

Smary Pants Mens multi-vitamin

My wife is taken the Female multi but generally hasn't taken the other (unless I keep reminding her).

I don't know that I've seen much benefit necessarily from it. I think my symptoms have generally been lesser than my wifes but she's been about a day ahead of me on things and that seems to remain.

Figured I'd get a bit of an update.

Both wife and I feel better today, but both have been a little more tired than we were yesterday. It's not sunny out today or anything, so maybe that's the reason, but we've had a bit more fatigue, while also having less congestion.

Wife's smell continues to slowly come back. I've got nothing.

Still taking the same medicine above. My ears continue to pop so I've added in 1 daytime cold/flu pill to try and get the ears to finally clear up.

I would call myself 90% of the way there if I had my smell back in any form or fashion.

This is entirely anecdotal, but it seems like people are having a harder time with it this time around. Back in the winter, most people I knew that tested positive didn't notice anything at all. I knew a couple of people who had older relatives that lived on the other side of the country that passed away, but everyone I knew personally that tested positive was mild at worst.

This time, it seems like everyone I know that is testing positive is getting knocked on their ass. I know a couple who have been hospitalized. It makes me wonder if this is spreading far more than last winter, because in the winter people were getting tested because their school or work was doing contract tracing and made them get tested even without symptoms. This time, it seems like people getting testing all have symptoms.

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Figured I'd get a bit of an update.

Both wife and I feel better today, but both have been a little more tired than we were yesterday. It's not sunny out today or anything, so maybe that's the reason, but we've had a bit more fatigue, while also having less congestion.

Wife's smell continues to slowly come back. I've got nothing.

Still taking the same medicine above. My ears continue to pop so I've added in 1 daytime cold/flu pill to try and get the ears to finally clear up.

I would call myself 90% of the way there if I had my smell back in any form or fashion.

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Keep moving! You may already be doing that but I laid in bed and slept a lot, and ultimately developed pneumonia.