My son just got 2nd #COVID19 shot. Thank goodness..especially given info like this..https://t.co/feZsDyXbyR
— Marshall Shepherd (@DrShepherd2013) June 8, 2021
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Let's start with the Cleveland Clinic in Ohio.
Its study finds 99.75 percent of the patients this year who had to be hospitalized, sick with COVID, were not fully vaccinated. And of the employees who tested positive for the virus, 99.7 percent had not gotten the vaccine.
But among those who got the Pfizer or Moderna vaccines, it was more than 96 percent effective in protecting them from getting COVID-19.
Now let's look at some states. Unvaccinated people in states such as Colorado, Maine, Rhode Island and Washington are having high infection spikes similar to the winter surge. Similarly, the African-American community in Washington D.C. is where 80 percent of that city's new cases are showing up, because of lower vaccination rates.
wbt5845 said:
This is just simple math. And these people are welcome to not get the vaccine and take the risk.
HowdyTexasAggies said:wbt5845 said:
This is just simple math. And these people are welcome to not get the vaccine and take the risk.
What's the risk?
There's a 99.95% chance they'd survive......HowdyTexasAggies said:wbt5845 said:
This is just simple math. And these people are welcome to not get the vaccine and take the risk.
What's the risk?
AggieJosh2002 said:
Don't get how this is fear inspiring at all ... its great news that the vaccine is proving to be as effective as we hoped it would be. Now that the vaccine is available to pretty much everyone and it is as effective as its shown, it is yet more evidence that everything should be open and the pandemic declared "over" in our country. While I am vaccinated, I could care less if someone else chooses to get vaccinated or not (and also don't care what you or anyone else thinks about my decision to get vaccinated). Time to get back to normal.
That 50% number sounds like BS. Provide a source.DukeMu said:Not to mention that 50% of asymptomatic COVID patients have long-term lung, heart, or brain damage. The cardiac changes are like decades of aging.tomtomdrumdrum said:
I wonder why we don't see these cavalier attitudes in the other current threads about people losing their loved ones to covid. Or in response to doctors like Marcus who post abour seeing terrible outcomes for their covid patients. Y'all might as well be saying directly to them, "well it was their choice, get over it."
It's like y'all just wanna find a place to flex in front of each other for blue stars. Everyone knows the statistics, you don't have to keep repeating them. And you certainly don't have to act like this disease is "nothing" when the stories of it being terrible for some are right here in front of you.
How this affects someone in 10, 20, 30 years is unknown.
Getting herd immunity's worth of vax reduces the risk of variants being generated that aren't protected by the vaccines...although there's a decent chance booster shots can stay ahead. The newer variants are more contagious, virulent, and affecting younger people.
Roll the dice... w/e I got mine months ago.
tomtomdrumdrum said:
I wonder why we don't see these cavalier attitudes in the other current threads about people losing their loved ones to covid. Or in response to doctors like Marcus who post abour seeing terrible outcomes for their covid patients. Y'all might as well be saying directly to them, "well it was their choice, get over it."
It's like y'all just wanna find a place to flex in front of each other for blue stars. Everyone knows the statistics, you don't have to keep repeating them. And you certainly don't have to act like this disease is "nothing" when the stories of it being terrible for some are right here in front of you.
OHIO: Anti-vaccine *expert* witness claims vaccine causes forks and keys to stick to your forehead and it’s linked to 5G network towers…. Up there trying to out-Tennessee us! 😵💫🥴 pic.twitter.com/GdbQZHrdLv
— The Tennessee Holler (@TheTNHoller) June 8, 2021
tomtomdrumdrum said:
Is it really a helpful data point? If we all already know that, for a vast majority of people, covid has not affected them or their family, what use is the continuous, tired statements of "it's no big deal for me?" What are people really trying to achieve? Because it looks like nothing more than indulgent bravado in the face of people who are hurting.
DukeMu said:Not to mention that 50% of asymptomatic COVID patients have long-term lung, heart, or brain damage. The cardiac changes are like decades of aging.tomtomdrumdrum said:
I wonder why we don't see these cavalier attitudes in the other current threads about people losing their loved ones to covid. Or in response to doctors like Marcus who post abour seeing terrible outcomes for their covid patients. Y'all might as well be saying directly to them, "well it was their choice, get over it."
It's like y'all just wanna find a place to flex in front of each other for blue stars. Everyone knows the statistics, you don't have to keep repeating them. And you certainly don't have to act like this disease is "nothing" when the stories of it being terrible for some are right here in front of you.
How this affects someone in 10, 20, 30 years is unknown.
Getting herd immunity's worth of vax reduces the risk of variants being generated that aren't protected by the vaccines...although there's a decent chance booster shots can stay ahead. The newer variants are more contagious, virulent, and affecting younger people.
Roll the dice... w/e I got mine months ago.
Probably not much if you're healthy. But I've had one friend, 50 year old, good health, who died of COVID-19.HowdyTexasAggies said:What's the risk?wbt5845 said:
This is just simple math. And these people are welcome to not get the vaccine and take the risk.
tomtomdrumdrum said:
You should go read this thread and think about whether comments like that are helpful:
https://texags.com/forums/84/topics/3203000
Just consider yourself fortunate and move on. No need to flex the idea that your family is stronger than the disease, when in reality, you're just fortunate that it didn't hit you close to home the way it has others.
West Point Aggie said:
This whole "many people can't get the vaccine" is complete and utter bullS***
This country, every state, has made it super easy to. There are volunteer agencies and organizations that will drive people to get them and even organizations like Uber and Lyft are donating rides.
If you WANT the vaccine, you CAN get the vaccine. Any argument to the contrary is utter BS!
AggieJosh2002 said:West Point Aggie said:
This whole "many people can't get the vaccine" is complete and utter bullS***
This country, every state, has made it super easy to. There are volunteer agencies and organizations that will drive people to get them and even organizations like Uber and Lyft are donating rides.
If you WANT the vaccine, you CAN get the vaccine. Any argument to the contrary is utter BS!
I think they are referring to the people that literally can't get a vaccine. I know someone who had a liver transplant and can't get vaccines due to the risk of the immune system effects or something like that. Their protection from certain diseases come from the fact that most of the population is vaccinated against those diseases so that disease doesn't spread.
That said, I am not of the opinion that anyone should be forced to get a vaccine for any reason (especially one that is not fully approved by the FDA).
Aggie_Boomin 21 said:tomtomdrumdrum said:
You should go read this thread and think about whether comments like that are helpful:
https://texags.com/forums/84/topics/3203000
Just consider yourself fortunate and move on. No need to flex the idea that your family is stronger than the disease, when in reality, you're just fortunate that it didn't hit you close to home the way it has others.
"I don't like your anecdotal story so go read this anecdotal story".
That thread is tragic, but that doesn't mean it's more valuable than stories of easily overcoming the disease.
