third coast.. said:

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I would like to hear the official narrative from coolerguy

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The official narrative is that vaccinated people can go without a mask outside when they are alone, with their household, or in small groups. They still need to mask up when inside or outside in a medium or large group

[url] https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2021/04/27/us/politics/coronavirus-masks-outdoors.amp.html[/url]

Hincemm said:

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i know there will be those that disagree with me, but the argument of "there have been zero cases traced back to XYZ, so there's no reason to mask/distance/etc." doesn't seem to pass a logical test.

there have been zero cases traced back to (fill in the blank here: gyms, restaurants, planes) because, based on what i understand, there have not been effective contract tracing measures put it into place by and large across the US.

i know i might be wrong, but i've never bought that argument. i'd welcome any feedback that suggest otherwise.

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Admittedly, to me it's worth the risk to not have to mask. Even to others. I know, not at all a very politically correct thing to say. Just honest. So I am a very biased person in this regard and no, I get it isn't worth bragging about. But I take my training very seriously and so do most of the people I train with and around and they feel the exact same way almost to a man and woman. Masking while lifting, especially very heavy weight relative to what one is used to training with is something that can very much effect performance. Watch a video on how to do correct low bar squat using breathing to brace and you'll see what I mean. Totally mental I understand, but in essence putting weight on your back that is more than twice your body weight is almost all a mental exercise and one of the hardest things one can do. Add a mask to that? No thanks! Combine that with the fact that most if not all the people around us at a gym that do get Covid are not really knocked out of action for very long and seemingly no one else seems to get it after they have it (ie you notice when other members are out and especially if John gets Covid you find out from a lifting buddy who never gets it and most who associate with John never contract it). Same with school where I work. When one kid would kid it in the fall, up to in some cases 10 kids would get quarantined and not a single quarantined kid actually got covid. The disruption was so great that they changed the "close contact" rules to pretty much if you thought about a mask you were ok lol. I mean, these were deals where students and teachers who sat practically next to a kid for an hour or more never contracted anything. And kids wear masks like some pro athletes wear condoms. Loose or not at all essentially. I noticed the same thing at gyms. Bear in mind that most very fit people, and I stress most, drive over Covid like a Mack truck and have 0 lasting effects. The only long haulers I anecdotally noticed, many posting here, were more endurance athletes who ran marathons and/or did triathlons. Most physique athletes, power and Olympic lifters and strongman athletes actually seemed to have 0 post covid effects and recovered from it as if it were a minor cold. Again, most endurance athletes I know had the same situation...

All that to say,

beerad12man said:

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POTD!

third coast.. said:

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I wish I could squat 2x, but I'm just trying to get to 1.5x

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Just keep pushing, you'll get there!

Great thread;

My relevant experience is as a district education director responsible for integration of immunocompromised, profoundly disabled, undocumented, Autistic, and behaviorally challenged students under full ADA, IDEA, and OSHA compliance, with a background in hazardous environs 2/

— 😊 Megan K Mansell 😊 (@mamasaurusMeg) April 28, 2021

Finally, an accurate chart.

WTF are we teaching kids? I have a neighborhood kid that wears a mask outside walking to and from the bus stop. More than once I've told him "it has to be over your nose to work". I saw half a dozen waiting for the bus fully masked up.....outdoors......in the sunshine..... I'm not sure who is worse - mask Nazis or anti-mask Nazis.

Totally agree. You are right. Take a gander at any of the UIL softball or baseball games being played. During the game, and especially by the end of the game, masks are riding low, looking like chinstraps, they are filthy and sweaty, dirt covered, and this is all a big joke.

Same kids that have to wear masks for UIL can then go play with a club team on Sunday and don't have to wear them, and they usually don't. This is a big flustercluck farse.