Just don't run to social media with a pithy take on how you "did the thing" when you're relatively young and healthy and stumbled on to an available shot. Lots of vulnerable people are rotting on waiting lists.

I'm not suggesting you'd do this. This is a real life example of my D bag neighbor that I may fight the next time I see him. At the time of his tone deaf post my elderly parents and T1D daughter couldn't get appointments.

Why? I mean if somebody did stumble on a shot are they supposed to just let it go to waste? Don't get the point of trying to determine the validity of folks getting shots.

It is a big D bag move to flaunt it on social media. Just get it and shut up.

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Just don't run to social media with a pithy take on how you "did the thing" when you're relatively young and healthy and stumbled on to an available shot. Lots of vulnerable people are rotting on waiting lists.

I'm not suggesting you'd do this. This is a real life example of my D bag neighbor that I may fight the next time I see him. At the time of his tone deaf post my elderly parents and T1D daughter couldn't get appointments.

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I'd actually be embarrassed a bit if I got it, due to age and health, despite the public health department saying I qualify. I certainly wouldn't put it out on social media and would probably only tell family, maybe just immediate family.

My sister is in health care and got it a month ago, and posted it - even that I found a bit "ha, I got it". But I'm a bit weird about anything that feels like bragging or putting yourself before others, in a public non-anonymous forum I should say.

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It is a big D bag move to flaunt it on social media. Just get it and shut up.

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I agree with you on this.

Unless someone's post helps to normalize it and convince others that it's a good thing to do

When I've posted on SM, I've had numerous requests for research and I know several people who have decided to become vaccinated after reading what I've been able to share with them.

I also always offer to help others navigate the system. Several people that I've helped have been able to get vaccinated in the last few weeks due to information I shared.

Not everyone is a DB braggart

If you're eligible, get it. You are doing your part and should not feel guilty. What if your wife got it from you and asymptomatically spread it?

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My 16 year old son was just offered the vaccine today from Texas Children's. I suspect he qualifies under 1B because of his BMI (he is about 6'2" and 220-ish...always in the 97th or above percentile for weight, height, and BMI).

We are taking it for all of the reasons mentioned above and then some. Appt is Tuesday.

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I was wondering the same thing. My large, athletic HS son is getting offered a vaccine.

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I agree with the commentary here.

Another way to think about it - all the 65+ year olds have had well over a month to register. If they are not registered by now, they don't want or believe they need the vaccine.

You will not be jumping in front of anyone who really wants or needs it from that group at this point.

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This is not true. My mother is in her 80's and has no idea how to register properly. She wants to call because she's not tech savvy. I had to take over this job and register her wherever I could. 2-3 weeks ago I registered her at one place and she was 400K+ person in line. Unfortunately she lives too close to Austin in a neighboring county. I'm trying the country away from hers just in the hopes of getting in sooner.

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Why? I mean if somebody did stumble on a shot are they supposed to just let it go to waste? Don't get the point of trying to determine the validity of folks getting shots.

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You missed the part where I said just don't do a victory lap on social media.

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If the goal is to save as many lives as possible the priority should be those at risk and not wasting doses.

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First, let me say we definitely should be protecting elderly. My parents have both now received the vaccine.

But here is my question for you, isn't the goal to limit spread and eradicate the virus? If so, is it better to give the shot to a 90 year old in a nursing home that is isolated or to a 45 year old who works and is in the public every day?

We need both to get shot, but saying 90 year old getting it before 45 year old no matter the case is not really accurate to me.

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I am confused by those who say they cannot find the vaccine for their 65+ year old relatives. Anyone in Texas can register in Tarrant or Dallas County right now. I'm guessing there are other counties with online registration too that will vaccinate those from outside their county.

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This is not the case everywhere. Up until about a week or two ago, Harris County's website hit you with a "comeback later" splash page (which has now been replaced with a page allowing you to register). Fort Bend Co still tells you to check back later. Other counties around me like Waller Co don't have any way of registering as far as I can tell. Last I checked, the hospitals here are giving preference to previous patients who are already in their system and who meet the requirements, which makes it impossible for non-patients to register.

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If the goal is to save as many lives as possible the priority should be those at risk and not wasting doses.

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First, let me say we definitely should be protecting elderly. My parents have both now received the vaccine.

But here is my question for you, isn't the goal to limit spread and eradicate the virus? If so, is it better to give the shot to a 90 year old in a nursing home that is isolated or to a 45 year old who works and is in the public every day?

We need both to get shot, but saying 90 year old getting it before 45 year old no matter the case is not really accurate to me.

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The goal is to limit the spread. I don't think any experts are setting a goal to eradicate the virus. Either way, the immediate goal is to save lives and reduce hospitalizations, and that is best accomplished by focusing on the elderly until it slows distribution. Young healthy people are more likely to have already gotten it anyway.

A perfect example of this failed policy is vaccinations for the military. Things are nuts restriction wise in the military and they are vaccinating service members as fast as they can, when the past couple months lives could have been saved by sending those doses to people at risk.

The military is overwhelmingly young, healthy people. The stats reflect that, as only 21 service members have died from covid, out of 145,586 known cases. That's a case fatality rate of .014%, and the actual IFR is even lower because of undetected and asymptomatic cases. They could have banned motorcycles and saved twice the lives lost to covid, year after year.

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If the goal is to save as many lives as possible the priority should be those at risk and not wasting doses.

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First, let me say we definitely should be protecting elderly. My parents have both now received the vaccine.

But here is my question for you, isn't the goal to limit spread and eradicate the virus? If so, is it better to give the shot to a 90 year old in a nursing home that is isolated or to a 45 year old who works and is in the public every day?

We need both to get shot, but saying 90 year old getting it before 45 year old no matter the case is not really accurate to me.

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This is a really good point. Why did I get the vaccine, even though I am only in my 50's and in good health?

Well, #1 reason is because I could - I met the lax criteria Tarrant County put out there. I also go over to my parents house a lot, both in their 90s, to do things for them. I have since been able to get them the vaccine as well, since I was willing to transport them to where they could get it.

But as is noted above, I am a much greater risk of spreading the disease than my parents. My company makes me travel with my job - I'm in Florida next week. I have to be in plant here in Fort Worth to do my job. So when it comes to stemming the spread, it is more prudent to vaccinate me than a nursing home patient.

And for anyone finding it "impossible" to get the vaccine, here is the link to register in Tarrant County.

https://tcph.quickbase.com/db/bq3q4uet8?linklocation=Button%20List&linkname=Register%20for%20the%20COVID%20Vaccine

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Either way, the immediate goal is to save lives and reduce hospitalizations, and that is best accomplished by focusing on the elderly until it slows distribution. Young healthy people are more likely to have already gotten it anyway.

A perfect example of this failed policy is vaccinations for the military. Things are nuts restriction wise in the military and they are vaccinating service members as fast as they can, when the past couple months lives could have been saved by sending those doses to people at risk.

The military is overwhelmingly young, healthy people. The stats reflect that, as only 21 service members have died from covid, out of 145,586 known cases. That's a case fatality rate of .014%, and the actual IFR is even lower because of undetected and asymptomatic cases. They could have banned motorcycles and saved twice the lives lost to covid, year after year.

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I don't think anyone is disagreeing with you that a person of 90 is more likely to die of Covid than a person of 45, or in case of military, 21.

The question is for the general good of society is it better to have a person vaccinated who is 90 and is isolated or is it better to vaccinate a 45 year old who is in contact with 20-30 people today due to work, taking care of parents, kids etc.?

While the 45 year old is much less likely to die from Covid, they are much more likely to pass it on to others. So if the goal is to reduce infections and deaths isn't it best to vaccinate those who are more likely to spread the disease, including on to their elderly parents.

I am not saying vaccinating the elderly is bad, but I don't think that vaccinating 45 year olds before every 90 year old gets the vaccine is bad either.

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GAC06 said:

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If the goal is to save as many lives as possible the priority should be those at risk and not wasting doses.

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First, let me say we definitely should be protecting elderly. My parents have both now received the vaccine.

But here is my question for you, isn't the goal to limit spread and eradicate the virus? If so, is it better to give the shot to a 90 year old in a nursing home that is isolated or to a 45 year old who works and is in the public every day?

We need both to get shot, but saying 90 year old getting it before 45 year old no matter the case is not really accurate to me.

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This is absolutely NOT the goal.

Many places have closed their registration and preregistration lists. I tried to go through the hubs in San Antonio, but no waiting lists. Every time they would get 9,000 doses, the appointments were filled in a matter of minutes online, while I never even got through. I then registered for waiting lists or notification lists in every medical facility in a three hour radius. I finally got vaccinated, but I have many friends who are still looking for an available spot. So there are lots of people over 65 who have not been served yet.

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Many places have closed their registration and preregistration lists. I tried to go through the hubs in San Antonio, but no waiting lists. Every time they would get 9,000 doses, the appointments were filled in a matter of minutes online, while I never even got through. I then registered for waiting lists or notification lists in every medical facility in a three hour radius. I finally got vaccinated, but I have many friends who are still looking for an available spot. So there are lots of people over 65 who have not been served yet.

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San Antonio isn't doing this efficiently. The lack of a waiting list system at this point is stupid.

At TX Children's with my son now. It's very well organized, just a bit of waiting because multiple people have the same appt time.

We are already scheduled for dose #2.

We are the last appt, and they have extra doses, but they aren't aren't allowed to give extras to parents.

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They have extra doses, but thwart aren't allowed to give extras to parents.

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That's BS. They don't understand the rules.

https://www.click2houston.com/news/texas/2021/01/22/lucky-few-hit-covid-19-vaccine-jackpot-for-rare-extra-doses/

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With millions of Americans waiting for their chance to get the coronavirus vaccine, a lucky few are getting bumped to the front of the line as clinics scramble to get rid of extra, perishable doses at the end of the day.

It is often a matter of being in the right place at the right time.

Sometimes people who just happen to be near a clinic at closing time are offered leftover shots that would otherwise be thrown away. Sometimes health workers go out looking for recipients. Some places keep waiting lists and draw names at random. Such opportunities may be becoming more prized as shortages around the U.S. lead some places to cancel vaccinations.

Mike Schotte, 53, and his 72-year-old mother started showing up at pharmacies near their home in Hurst, Texas, in hopes of getting a leftover shot. Eventually they put their names on a waiting list and got a call saying shots might be available if they arrived within a half-hour.

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They have extra doses, but thwart aren't allowed to give extras to parents.

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That's BS. They don't understand the rules.

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I get the impression they do understand the rules, they just have a very strict policy that they won't deviate from. They did try to give the extras to hospital staff, but no one here needed it.

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They have extra doses, but thwart aren't allowed to give extras to parents.

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That's BS. They don't understand the rules.

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I get the impression they do understand the rules, they just have a very strict policy that they won't deviate from. They did try to give the extras to hospital staff, but no one here needed it.

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There's the problem right there.

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TXTransplant said:

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They have extra doses, but thwart aren't allowed to give extras to parents.

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That's BS. They don't understand the rules.

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I get the impression they do understand the rules, they just have a very strict policy that they won't deviate from. They did try to give the extras to hospital staff, but no one here needed it.

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There's the problem right there.

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I asked again, and they were very nice about it. They have employees on "standby" that they call. And they asked if I was ever a patient at the Women's Pavilion (I have not been), so they just have a hierarchy. They did say to ask again when we come back for dose #2.

They may have also ran out. They only had one or two extras, and someone did come in late after us.

Totally disagree with that. Lots of older people don't know how to register. They don't have smart phones and aren't too computer savvy.

I think someone (senior centers maybe) should be trying to reach out to the elderly.

There's no way my mom would have been able to register without others helping her, and that's messed up.