New study shows asymptomatics are not very contagious

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https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M20-2671

The Chinese found that the more severe symptoms you have, the more contagious you are.
Duncan Idaho
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Again, the clinical definition of "asymptomatic" is different from its use in the common vernacular.

Asymptomatic means that you never exhibit symptoms. PREsymptomatic means that you have not yet exhibited symptoms.

The prevailing belief for a while has been that asymptomatic spread is rare. BUTPREsymptomatic spread is very common.

The problem is you don't know if you are pre or a symptomatic until it is too late
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pretty sure a female doctor at the W.H.O.
made this claim back in June and was promptly made to retract her statement.

Duncan Idaho
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She didn't retract it, she clarified it....because of the reason I discussed.

She was sloppy when she addressed the Public and said "asymptomatic spread was rare". While technically correct, it was misunderstood. She should have said "transmission from people which never exhibit symptoms is rare." Because what people heard was "transmission from people who haven't started showing symptoms is rare. So if you aren't coughing or running a temperature feel free to do whatever you want and no need for a mask."
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JP_Losman said:

pretty sure a female doctor at the W.H.O.
made this claim back in June and was promptly made to retract her statement.




Nope
CardiffGiant
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I like this news. However I don't trust anything the Chinese say.
NASAg03
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Duncan Idaho said:

She didn't retract it, she clarified it....because of the reason I discussed.

She was sloppy when she addressed the Public and said "asymptomatic spread was rare". While technically correct, it was misunderstood. She should have said "transmission from people which never exhibit symptoms is rare." Because what people heard was "transmission from people who haven't started showing symptoms is rare. So if you aren't coughing or running a temperature feel free to do whatever you want and no need for a mask."
And this paper fails clarify on what the transmission is for presymptomatic people is.

Although this paper seems to be more focused on transmission setting, and if you're living with someone then presymptomatic doesn't really matter as it will eventually turn into symptoms they categorize into mild, moderate, and major.
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Probably because there is no realistic way to gather that data.
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Duncan Idaho said:

Probably because there is no realistic way to gather that data.
Or... Maybe... And just hear me out here... But every scientist and doctor in the world is conspiring to make this seem worse than it really is in order to promote a communist/socialist world where everyone lives in fear and is dependent solely on the government....

Or yeah, could be that the average person expects wizardy when it comes to science and thinks everyone has an agenda when science is still developing and doesn't agree with preconceived notions.
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bigtruckguy3500 said:

Duncan Idaho said:

Probably because there is no realistic way to gather that data.
Or... Maybe... And just hear me out here... But every scientist and doctor in the world is conspiring to make this seem worse than it really is in order to promote a communist/socialist world where everyone lives in fear and is dependent solely on the government....

Or yeah, could be that the average person expects wizardy when it comes to science and thinks everyone has an agenda when science is still developing and doesn't agree with preconceived notions.


How about, and hear me out here, when the science is unsure we try to err on the side of personal freedom instead of quarantining healthy people and losing 30 million jobs. Just a thought for the next time something like this comes along.
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coolerguy12 said:

bigtruckguy3500 said:

Duncan Idaho said:

Probably because there is no realistic way to gather that data.
Or... Maybe... And just hear me out here... But every scientist and doctor in the world is conspiring to make this seem worse than it really is in order to promote a communist/socialist world where everyone lives in fear and is dependent solely on the government....

Or yeah, could be that the average person expects wizardy when it comes to science and thinks everyone has an agenda when science is still developing and doesn't agree with preconceived notions.


How about, and hear me out here, when the science is unsure we try to err on the side of personal freedom instead of quarantining healthy people and losing 30 million jobs. Just a thought for the next time something like this comes along.
" 'People that read with pictures think that it's simply about a mask' - Dana Loesch" - Ban Cow Gas

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coolerguy12 said:

bigtruckguy3500 said:

Duncan Idaho said:

Probably because there is no realistic way to gather that data.
Or... Maybe... And just hear me out here... But every scientist and doctor in the world is conspiring to make this seem worse than it really is in order to promote a communist/socialist world where everyone lives in fear and is dependent solely on the government....

Or yeah, could be that the average person expects wizardy when it comes to science and thinks everyone has an agenda when science is still developing and doesn't agree with preconceived notions.


How about, and hear me out here, when the science is unsure we try to err on the side of personal freedom instead of quarantining healthy people and losing 30 million jobs. Just a thought for the next time something like this comes along.
Nah, personal freedom are just too "wizardy".
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bigtruckguy3500 said:

Duncan Idaho said:

Probably because there is no realistic way to gather that data.
Or... Maybe... And just hear me out here... But every scientist and doctor in the world is conspiring to make this seem worse than it really is in order to promote a communist/socialist world where everyone lives in fear and is dependent solely on the government....

Or yeah, could be that the average person expects wizardy when it comes to science and thinks everyone has an agenda when science is still developing and doesn't agree with preconceived notions.
That is something that someone with an agenda would say.
DadHammer
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I believe it's 50+ million lost jobs.
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