Link from fox news

https://www.scribd.com/document/456756096/White-House-guidelines-for-reopening-economy#fullscreen&from_embed

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/read-trumps-opening-up-america-again-guidelines

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6840663-Governmentpacket.html#document/p1

Yep. You can tell the experts took over and the f-ing politicians stepped back.

So when can masters swim groups re-start? when do pools at gyms open?

CapCityAg89 said:

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Yep. You can tell the experts took over and the f-ing politicians stepped back.

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Huh?

does that matter though? Can a county open up or is it state by state only.

Counties closed one by one so they can open that way. If you read the entire document it says as much. Flexibility is given to local governments

Seems reasonable.

How long until we find some states/counties are manipulating testing data or reducing testing to get that downward trend?

Since cities make their money on sales tax from retail sales and hotel taxes I suppose they are financially motivated to open back up as soon as possible.

seems positive for football...most SEC cities are rural and thus theoretically easier to control than a Houston or Dallas.

So when do the bars reopen?

Phase 2

Aggie95 said:

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seems positive for football...most SEC cities are rural and thus theoretically easier to control than a Houston or Dallas.

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That are "rural" until 80k drive in for a game.

CapCityAg89 said:

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Yep. You can tell the experts took over and the f-ing politicians stepped back.

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Actually the opposite is happening.

I'm not saying that's good or bad- frankly no one knows for certain what the right moves are here.

chris1515 said:

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How long until we find some states/counties are manipulating testing data or reducing testing to get that downward trend?

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The "or a downward trajectory of positive tests as a percent of total tests" makes that a certainty.

We arent testing enough. We are only testing those that we are pretty sure are positive. So locations will just stop testing known cases by start making it easier to test unlikely cases to drive the numbers down.

If I am a governor/county offical and i want to open, I just test a bunch of people I know aren't positive.

Duncan Idaho said:

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chris1515 said:

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How long until we find some states/counties are manipulating testing data or reducing testing to get that downward trend?

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The "or a downward trajectory of positive tests as a percent of total tests" makes that a certainty.

We arent testing enough. We are only testing those that we are pretty sure are positive. So locations will just stop testing known cases by start making it easier to test unlikely cases to drive the numbers down.

If I am a governor/county offical and i want to open, I just test a bunch of people I know aren't positive.

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. That's a very unrealistic way to look at it. In almost no scenario would a decision maker forego testing a likely in favor of an unlikely. That's borderline evil.

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Duncan Idaho said:

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chris1515 said:

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How long until we find some states/counties are manipulating testing data or reducing testing to get that downward trend?

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The "or a downward trajectory of positive tests as a percent of total tests" makes that a certainty.

We arent testing enough. We are only testing those that we are pretty sure are positive. So locations will just stop testing known cases by start making it easier to test unlikely cases to drive the numbers down.

If I am a governor/county offical and i want to open, I just test a bunch of people I know aren't positive.

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. That's a very unrealistic way to look at it. In almost no scenario would a decision maker forego testing a likely in favor of an unlikely. That's borderline evil.

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You don't have to forgo one for the other, you just have to add a buffer test.

We are ramping up testing. It would be a simple effort to do that.

INteresting details about reopenings in Europe https://www.axios.com/europe-coronavirus-lockdown-ending-schools-germany-bdc3edc8-b533-4ee8-9370-b75883c42463.html

Since they are a bit ahead of us in some countries, we will at least be able to watch and judge how effective their choices are. But, there are still lots of variables like population density and societal behaviors.

Duncan Idaho said:

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chris1515 said:

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How long until we find some states/counties are manipulating testing data or reducing testing to get that downward trend?

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The "or a downward trajectory of positive tests as a percent of total tests" makes that a certainty.

We arent testing enough. We are only testing those that we are pretty sure are positive. So locations will just stop testing known cases by start making it easier to test unlikely cases to drive the numbers down.

If I am a governor/county offical and i want to open, I just test a bunch of people I know aren't positive.

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Capitol Ag said:

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Duncan Idaho said:

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chris1515 said:

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How long until we find some states/counties are manipulating testing data or reducing testing to get that downward trend?

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The "or a downward trajectory of positive tests as a percent of total tests" makes that a certainty.

We arent testing enough. We are only testing those that we are pretty sure are positive. So locations will just stop testing known cases by start making it easier to test unlikely cases to drive the numbers down.

If I am a governor/county offical and i want to open, I just test a bunch of people I know aren't positive.

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I was responding to the question of how places could cook the books. This would be an easy way to do it.

There are 1000s of jurisdictions in the country. At least one is certain to have an ass hat that would do something like this.

I know. Just having some fun.