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**Official Harvey Thread** Updated Staff Warning on OP 1:50 p.m. 8/27
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Dad is launching on the Atascocita side of West Lake Houston... anybody need help
Link to the actual list:rhoswen said:Topaz said:
https://www.kroger.com/topic/houston
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https://www.kroger.com/asset/houston
We need to get this guy some kind of award from the University. He is just amazing.
thanks!
Can confirm Seabrook is open, but line out the door.
Can confirm Seabrook is open, but line out the door.
GarlandAg2012 said:Link to the actual list:rhoswen said:Topaz said:
https://www.kroger.com/topic/houston
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https://www.kroger.com/asset/houston
Sorry, fixed my link.
We have had flooding as far inland as La Grange. All of South East Texas has been saturated. Completely.
Fitch said:Is this current? I'm looking for a way to get in from College Station.RangerRick9211 said:
290 is still shutdown E bound near Barker-Cyprus. 290-99-249-8-290 gets you to the loop.
Just drove it. Been home on OF for 10 min.
Just got word my parents are leaving Kingwood sand creek 1 and heading to my sisters' house at the front (kings mill?)
Said said water is curb to curb Spring cove and forest garden.
I wish they'd left yesterday.
Said said water is curb to curb Spring cove and forest garden.
I wish they'd left yesterday.
Did these reporters think that people evacuating would save the homes? The actual impact of lost lives has been very minimal given the unbelievable magnitude of this storm. I'd say they've handled it very well vs directing people to drive into roads that were going to quickly fill with water
exactly.. most (if not all) of the confirmed deaths have been in cars. Sending thousands\millions onto the roadways would have been much much worse.DannyDuberstein said:
Did these reporters think that people evacuating would save the homes? The actual impact of lost lives has been very minimal given the unbelievable magnitude of this storm. I'd say they've handled it very well vs directing people to drive into roads that were going to quickly fill with water
RangerRick9211 said:Fitch said:Is this current? I'm looking for a way to get in from College Station.RangerRick9211 said:
290 is still shutdown E bound near Barker-Cyprus. 290-99-249-8-290 gets you to the loop.
Just drove it. Been home on OF for 10 min.
If you come, can you post an update on the Amish guys? We passed them just before the 6/290 interchange. Wondering if they continued on to 290.
DannyDuberstein said:
Did these reporters think that people evacuating would save the homes? The actual impact of lost lives has been very minimal given the unbelievable magnitude of this storm. I'd say they've handled it very well vs directing people to drive into roads that were going to quickly fill with water
Agreed. If I'm not mistaken, the majority of casualties so far have been stranded motorists.
I think a big part of that equation is that a good portion of the city decided that the storm had been overblown and were going to stay where they were. Hell, I'd be very curious if they did a poll of people who were rescued from flooded cars, how many of them were out at a bar watching the fight. I was astounded at how many places were open and the number of people who were willing to go out and pay money to watch a fight with rain baring down on the city. I think there's going to need to be some kind of discussion amongst media members on how they report on these things. Constantly making every storm the end of days to get ratings is going to result in people not buying it and that was a big part of all of this as well.
The only thing that should have been done was a mandatory curfew Saturday night. There still would have been a few idiots going to friends' houses for the fight, but it would have kept the bars and restaurants from opening. However, if the forecast had busted Turner would have been run out of town by the businessmen afterwards. There was really no good option.
Allison was one of the worst natural disasters to hit the country, but they are expecting a few gauges to break national rainfall records.
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SoupNazi2001 said:DannyDuberstein said:
Did these reporters think that people evacuating would save the homes? The actual impact of lost lives has been very minimal given the unbelievable magnitude of this storm. I'd say they've handled it very well vs directing people to drive into roads that were going to quickly fill with water
Why not say if your home flooded in Allison or the floods the last 2 years get out, if not ride it out. Time to do this would have been Wednesday or Thursday given the rain forecast and projections. Roads weren't impassable until Saturday night. Would have been way less rescues.
How about if your home flooded previously you take it upon yourself to get out? I know lots of people who did that. They didn't need anyone to tell them.
guys? Can we argue this somewhere else? Watchole has already said this is supposed to be for info.
Oof. Latest models show another system developing in the Gulf and coming north to Texas (read: more rain). Plus that other disturbance in the Atlantic.
And the 5-day forecast rain totals starting Saturday morning (9/2).
rhoswen said:
guys? Can we argue this somewhere else? Watchole has already said this is supposed to be for info.
Agree. Not the discussion thread for this
I have another lakes on Eldridge rescue request. Aunt and uncle are at 5614 Heather Run, 2 adults and 2 dogs. My parents, brother, and pets are still stranded at 5607 Peninsula park in lakes on Eldridge as well. I am driving and therefore may not see your response. Please call my cell phone 713-806-6013 if you are able to assist in any way.
Can you guys start a new thread for your argument of Allison vs. Harvey?
rhoswen said:
guys? Can we argue this somewhere else? Watchole has already said this is supposed to be for info.
I just went through and flagged the entire debate.
combat wombat said:
Can you guys start a new thread for your argument of Allison vs. Harvey?
We should just ban strat. He doesn't even live here anymore
Well that would be awful.
The reporters that keep saying this flooding is because of the release from the reservoirs is irrationally infuriating
62strat said:Why are you so quick to say that? Allison totally devastated Houston, with similar amounts of rainfall you are seeing right now.. so it's silly to say it's not even a debate. Greens bayou got 28" in about 12 hours.CDUB98 said:62strat said:And is this storm much worse than Allison? Allison dropped 3-4' of rain didn't it? So Harvey is not entirely unprecedented. Not really sure which is worse, Harvey or Allison (Allison was 32 trillion gallons), but they are on the same level when compared to typical hurricanes, so we know it can happen.SoupNazi2001 said:Accepting many weather people did predict this kind of rain. People just didn't believe them.NAP Violator said:TexAgs1992 said:
I'm so sick of these reporters asking Abbott and Turner both if they regret their statements on evacuation. I posted yesterday this is a national crisis. If you're a reporter asking politically driven questions, you should be fired and shamed. I'm tired of it.
Exactly. I'm probably about as far right as you can be and I absolutely agree with this. Questioning decisions made from a literal act of god where 3-4 feet of rain dropped on an area the size of Maryland in a 1000 year flood is simply insane. Nothing we have is engineered for this and there is no administrative decision that could have been done to prevent this kind of widespread destruction, devastation, and human displacement. This is an unprecedented event that no one could have predicted.
The media really needs to realize their place and stop politicizing every single damn thing.
https://www.hcfcd.org/media/1351/ts-allison_pubreportenglish.pdf
Harvey is much, much worse than Allison in every way. It's not even a debate.
They are concentrated in slightly different areas of Houston, but, like I said above, Allison dumped 32 trillion gallons, and flooded 73,000 homes in Harris county.
Now harvey has the hurricane aspect in rockport and corpus, but I'm just talking rain fall effects in Houston. harvey is not unprecedented in that regard.
I think the sting of Rita has a huge influence on decisions to evacuate.. for the authorities giving the orders as well as residents taking them.
maybe take a break for a week while people who still live in Houston and are fighting through the ongoing disaster try and figure it all out
the number of people who went out to see that dumbass fight was astounding
by the time it was over we were stuck in the stagnant band for hours
by the time it was over we were stuck in the stagnant band for hours
Update on twin lakes, loe, they have high water rescue vehicles staging on Eldridge south of tanner and there are a few rescue boats operating. Every house we saw south of the Eldridge neighborhood enterances had water intrusion. The current picked up about 30 minutes ago so it's no longer safe to walk in or take unpowered boats in and fill them with people. We are heading out because the powered boat is working down on clay. Tanner is impassible north of the subdivision except for high clearance vehicles.