in 10!

Very nerve racking!

Whoop!

WHOOP!

Make no mistake about it, absolutely a HUGE Win.

The most exciting part of it was to watch the bandwagon rats jumping off the ship when OU scored 4 runs in the 8th. They scrambled like hell to get back on in the top of the 10th.

Someone's line of "Thank God the players bailed out the coaches" made me laugh harder than anything else I've read here in a long time.

Funny that the coaches blew it when the players were throwing to the wrong base and not getting the ball over the plate in the 8th...but the players won the game in the 10th instead of the coaches.

How can a coach be responsible for a players actions on the field in one inning, but have no effect two innings later? Strange...




Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding; in all your ways acknowledge Him, and He will make your paths straight.

Proverbs 3:5-6 - NIV

That was me Luke and bring in Pennington in that situation was poor judgement. In my humble opinion you bring in your good relievers not your fast ball throwing shortstop.

I stand by my statement and appreciate the win by the players.

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To me, when a player throws to the wrong base, that's coaching. Happen once, players fault, happen twice, coaches fault. And, I've seen this type of thing repeated every season.

Just curious, when was another time you remember us doing something like last night in that type situation? I do not remember one.

txag72,

we have one of the best defensive teams in the nation, that screams good coaching at me. how many double plays did we turn last night? i know we turned 2 dp's on hit and runs which is unheard of. bad decision making late in the game can be partially contributed to nerves and probably has nothing to do with bad coaching.

I think everyone needs to say thanks to the OU Staff for pitching McCutchen in the last two innings. That was the difference maker. Savage pretty much had us down and out with his performance. Obviously OU's bullpen is not all that hot. Bodes well for the remainder of the series as we claw our way back to .500. Sure would be nice to be 4-2 in conference after today.

We are at .500

Very good RB. claw should have been past tense. And if we win the DH today we will be 4-2 on the season. Which would be nothing short of incredible! And had we not won last night we would still have to win the DH today to be @ .500. What a difference an inning makes?

I agree that I'm not a huge fan of Penn coming in from SS to close out games. I get more nervous when that happens than I do just about any time else.

My point is that if the coach gets berated because of mental mistakes, judgement errors or the inability to throw strikes, then the coach deserves equal praise for timely hits, questionable umpring calls in your favor or diving catches.

I'm not saying that MJ was flawless last night, but to say OU's rally was because of the coach but A&M's rally had nothing to do with coaching is ludicrous.




Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding; in all your ways acknowledge Him, and He will make your paths straight.

Proverbs 3:5-6 - NIV

I would also like to know when else we threw to the wrong base this year. If it's happened repeatedly, it shouldn't be that hard to come up with an instance.




Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding; in all your ways acknowledge Him, and He will make your paths straight.

Proverbs 3:5-6 - NIV

we are known as having one of the best defenses almost every year. Of all the criticisms of MJ, I do not think throwing to wrong bases should be one of them. Still cannot think of another instance.

I'll listen all day about (and sometimes agree with) the pulling pitchers at the wrong time arguement, but blaming a coach for throwing to the wrong base is insane. These guys should have learned what base to throw to in which situation LONG BEFORE they got to Texas A&M.




Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding; in all your ways acknowledge Him, and He will make your paths straight.

Proverbs 3:5-6 - NIV

I think it's a coaching problem only if they have little microphones & earpieces and the coach tells the player the wrong thing to do in the middle of the play.

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[This message has been edited by AgRyan04 (edited 3/25/2005 11:31a).]

Hate to break the news to you guys but going home with that throw is a 50/50 call on whether that is the right decision. Ninth inning would be a different story but in the 8th, I'm not so sure that wasn't the right play with a two run lead. The problem with the play was the execution and that is the player's fault, not the coach's. As for Penny, he comes in and throws low 90's with sinkage in a situation you are begging for a ground ball. I'm not the biggest fan of him closing, but in that situation, he is perfect. Also, last time i checked, he produced three grounders, unfortunately, the first two where hit where we weren't.

luke and the other posters,...

the mistake by Mav, was just that,..a mistake. MJ had nothing to do with that. HOWEVER, the blunder that MJ made was putting in corgan to pitch in that pressure situation. i understand that chambless would have been the man in that situation, but he was not present.

if he had gone with ray,....or even turner, the results would have been different.

Ryan,..obviously you noticed that a senior got us the victory. that is all i am saying. the coach should have put ray in, or even turner. these guys have experience and putting a freshman in there is just asking for trouble.

again,..i hope MJ learns from this

Um, no! MJ will not learn from this. Haven't you been around since the mid-80's. You can't teach an old dog new tricks. It is his nature to do things like that which just drive you crazy and make you scratch your head. Get used to it, and hope that the players drive and will to win (and overcome adversity brought on by bad coaching moves) and talent can overcome MJ's coaching misques.

Yep MJ is the luckiest coach in D1 baseball as shown with last nights win. He keeps lucking into 40+ wins a season.

The Ags got a little lucky last night but as usual MJ never gets any credit when things work out and all the blame for each miscue and loss.

What makes it ok for Chambless, a freshman, to be our go-to-guy as opposed to a senior?

Meyer was a freshman last year and he won a heckuva lotta games.....Moore was the same way in '01.....I'm sure that Washinton & USC would disagree also considering that both of their ace's last year were freshmen....or even Augie when freshman Huston Street won them the CWS.

There are reasons why Dwayne Pollock didn't enter ballgames in all of our pressure situations in '03 when he was a senior....same thing with J-Mo last year

I just don't think age overrides ability in all cases.

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2004 42-22
2003 45-19
2002 35-24
2001 33-27
2000 25-32
1999 52-18
1998 46-20
1997 37-21
1996 37-21
1995 44-22-1

Make that 5 lucky seasons in the last 10, the other 5 he didn't reach 40+ wins.

Artimus Gordon- I stating an average of 40+ wins over MJ's 20 seasons here at A&M. Yes we are all well aware of the "dark ages" of '00 thru '02. Even good coaches have down years just look at Augie's first few seasons at t.u. (he was taking over from the winningest coach in NCAA at the time so there should be little need for a huge rebuilding program) or his tenure at Illinois.

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HOWEVER, the blunder that MJ made was putting in corgan to pitch in that pressure situation. i understand that chambless would have been the man in that situation, but he was not present.

if he had gone with ray,....or even turner, the results would have been different

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Oh, I didn't realize you had the mystical power to see into the future and predict the results. As long as you have this ability, why don't you tell which stock to buy when the market opens next week.

"...the results would have been different." You have absolutely no basis for saying that Ray would have gotten better results. Turner did come in and shut them down later, so one would hope that he would have been able to do the same if he'd been brought in when Meyer was taken out, but they might have been hoping to start Turner. I'm sure MJ and Lawler had a reason for bringing in Corgan instead of Turner.

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