LB12MEEN said:

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Been watching Aggie sports a long time and nothing comes close to that bad. Swept by a team at home that was that bad, inconceivable!

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Ah, glad you were in a coma September 10, 2022. Don't look it up or I'll shatter your illusions about the Mizzou series being the worst weekend in aggie sports.

Interesting, because that loss was the beginning of the end for Jimbo. Another coach that squandered talent.

LB12MEEN said:

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Interesting, because that loss was the beginning of the end for Jimbo. Another coach that squandered talent.

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So Mizzou was the beginning of the end for Earley?

I'm trying to remember if Jimbo and the football team finished #3 in the SEC in 2023. Surely, he wouldn't have been fired if he had finished #3 in the SEC the next season!

HarryRocket said:

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I just don't understand why mediocre (at best) coaches are allowed to stay at A&M for years in baseball and basketball. Bro was given a chance, he failed. Move on and get a real resume baseball guy that is worthy of this job based on experience not situation. It's just disrespectful to the thousands of Aggie fans who support Aggie athletics so well. You tried, it failed, no worries, but try something else.

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He might be mediocre. He might be great. He might be elite. He has a high ceiling and a sub-mediocre floor.

If our offense is good enough to carry us to a 3rd place finish in the SEC (and it would have likely been 2nd if they would've let us play tu again) without much help from the pitching staff, I'd hate to see us throw the baby out with the bathwater. Just replace the bathwater with a better pitching coach. We knew when we brought in Earley that he wouldn't immediately be an elite SEC HC. Just support the progress he made this year and his willingness to fire another coach who is at fault.

He deserves another year, but after next year he only has one more remaining on his contract…that means it will either be time for an extension or time to walk away.

We are losing a ton of talent so unless he nails the portal my guess is dead man walking.

HarryRocket said:

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I just don't understand why mediocre (at best) coaches are allowed to stay at A&M for years in baseball and basketball. Bro was given a chance, he failed. Move on and get a real resume baseball guy that is worthy of this job based on experience not situation. It's just disrespectful to the thousands of Aggie fans who support Aggie athletics so well. You tried, it failed, no worries, but try something else.

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It's just the reality. We can offload a football coach much quicker because the dollars make the friction go away. If someone wrote a big check we could move on from Earley tomorrow. But nobody with that cash thinks it's worth it, so it's not happening.

Coryhub said:

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We were #1 preseason team and didn't make the tourney....

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If this was unfavorable, then not being ranked (this year) and getting a seed in the tourney should be favorable. Weird that you don't acknowledge it.

dr_java said:

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Coryhub said:

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We were #1 preseason team and didn't make the tourney....

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If this was unfavorable, then not being ranked (this year) and getting a seed in the tourney should be favorable. Weird that you don't acknowledge it.

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We started the season ranked 25. And pretty much ended around that area as well.

Decay said:

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HarryRocket said:

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I just don't understand why mediocre (at best) coaches are allowed to stay at A&M for years in baseball and basketball. Bro was given a chance, he failed. Move on and get a real resume baseball guy that is worthy of this job based on experience not situation. It's just disrespectful to the thousands of Aggie fans who support Aggie athletics so well. You tried, it failed, no worries, but try something else.

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It's just the reality. We can offload a football coach much quicker because the dollars make the friction go away. If someone wrote a big check we could move on from Earley tomorrow. But nobody with that cash thinks it's worth it, so it's not happening.

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Except we did - we got $2.7M from Schloss's buyout....that covered almost all of years 2, 3, & 4 of Earley's contract

AgRyan04 said:

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Decay said:

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HarryRocket said:

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I just don't understand why mediocre (at best) coaches are allowed to stay at A&M for years in baseball and basketball. Bro was given a chance, he failed. Move on and get a real resume baseball guy that is worthy of this job based on experience not situation. It's just disrespectful to the thousands of Aggie fans who support Aggie athletics so well. You tried, it failed, no worries, but try something else.

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It's just the reality. We can offload a football coach much quicker because the dollars make the friction go away. If someone wrote a big check we could move on from Earley tomorrow. But nobody with that cash thinks it's worth it, so it's not happening.

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Except we did - we got $2.7M from Schloss's buyout....that covered almost all of years 2, 3, & 4 of Earley's contract

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Then that money is spent…

That money was spent on the roster to keep them from transferring.

Coryhub said:

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We were #1 preseason team and didn't make the tourney. We were hosting regional and couldn't make it to supers.
2 years in a row we haven't made a super regional and this was not supposed to be a rebuild after Schloss left. We did this to try and win quickly and we didn't.
Experiment failed why would we expect next year to be any different ? What did Earley do to prove he deserves to be a big time P4 coach at a school that was in CWS 2 yrs ago..
Admit it was a gamble to hire HC with no HC experience to keep the roster in order and not be decimated. Now we didn't produce in 2 yrs so let's get a real HC that has resume that deserves to be hired.

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Just to get this straight, if making it to the postseason isn't producing, what is? Losing in the supers and having this same discussion about how Earley wasn't able to take this roster to Omaha? Or making it to Omaha, which if considered producing, we shouldn't have such high hopes…

We were playing at team that gave up an average of 2 runs a game in our own Regional. Not an excuse to lose, but didn't get the luck of the draw by the committee.

We were projected, what almost dead last in preseason rankings and finished 3rd. We "swept" t.u. And we did this with a bum pitching coach and a season of again injuries. I'm not saying Earley did no wrong, but how many threads and convos do we need bashing out HC who isn't going anywhere.

With the cards we were dealt this season we faired well. And for those who will call me someone who is okay with mediocracy we've been to the MCWS 4 times in the past 26 seasons. It'll be okay.

LB12MEEN said:

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That money was spent on the roster to keep them from transferring.

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I hear this a lot....but I have yet to see hard numbers backing up this claim.

Um did you notice Gavin, Caden, and Chris batting 1-2-3

LB12MEEN said:

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That money was spent on the roster to keep them from transferring.

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Don't know that but are you saying it was committed twice? Definitely not available for a third use, then…

Lady Aravis said:

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LB12MEEN said:

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That money was spent on the roster to keep them from transferring.

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I hear this a lot....but I have yet to see hard numbers backing up this claim.

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I thought this was actually well known by Ags.

LSU Vols and Texas had big NIL ready to take Jace Gavin and Caden. So we either matched but probably actually went higher. We just lost our coach to the sips. We were going to make sure we did not also lose our our top 3 players. Texas boosters were bragging they were taking our coach and our top players.

I've definitely heard this. My point is it's all hearsay -- my overall issue that encompasses this specific point, but includes other situations as well, we speak so incredibly confidently about NIL numbers. But never with the caveat that true, accurate NIL numbers are never revealed. A lot of assumptions are made by fans, and then decisions made on those assumptions.

That's my point.

It's just like any industry. If someone is trying to get your employees and you don't want to lose those employees, raises are going to occur and who knows if those employees were even thinking about leaving. That's when I got some of my best raises.

Baseball money is baseball money. It boosters are not having to give money to coaching hire then it goes to NIL and vice versa.

Also this

I understand that. But in some industries the money being bandied about is a couple thousand dollars and in others a couple million. Fans are generally assuming the latter for baseball when it's most likely not even close.

I just take all these conversations centered around NIL with a huge grain of salt. I naively wish others would too.

I turned this off at 5-1 UNC. 8-0 finish by USC puts the team with the most CWS championships w/in 1 game of returning to Omaha....... for the 1st time in 25 years.

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Agryan00 said:

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Because Trev Alberts does not care about baseball. Probably going to get worse.

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Two of our last three baseball coaches had never been a head coach at any level in their life prior to being hired. The other had coached in multiple CWS. Look at the difference in results. Do we need to make things so complicated?

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And Schloss was only available because TCU was tired of his BS ( same could be said for Jimbo )

Finding a coach who is really good and is about to be run out of town happens rarely. Usually there is a compelling reason why he is available to relocate.

Maybe if the Earley experiment fails we can throw a giant bag of cash at TV after the Giants let him go but money whipping coaches is not as easy as make phone call ; write check; introduce new coach.

And SC was a very solid 2 seed and if the Ags would have been 9-10 where we should have been seeded SC would have been wrecking somebody else's regional

With SC's RPI they probably would have been hosting if it weren't for the fact that UCLA was already hosting

You did not have to go such low and high extremes to try and prove your point even though in football it is millions. For those specific three players it is in the multiple 100k. That's not chump change.

And again, we know this how? I'm not trying to be difficult, I'm genuinely trying to find out how you and others are so confident in these numbers? If this is all behind paywalls, which ones? I simply have not seen any credible source that backs up what I see so many people saying.

I'm an evidence gal, that's all.