When Hacopian and Nico are ready…

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Redfishag93
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Who doesn't start? I say kellner. U gotta keep bindy and Royo bats in the lineup, especially considering the condition of the pitching staff currently.

Royo plays short, Hacopian 2nd and bindy to DH.

Kellner has had a good freshman season, has battled his butt off and is clearly tougher than a $2 chicken fried steak, but u gotta keep royo's bay in the lineup.
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Duer sits period he has been hitting under 200 the last 5 sec series and Earley sitting him for Chestnut to get the bunt down was the key to the victory yesterday.
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I thought the consensus was that Binderup can't hit SEC pitching?
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I thought The consensus was TK should Be leadoff not Gavin?
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HoustonAg2106 said:

I thought the consensus was that Binderup can't hit SEC pitching?


Plenty of folks say that but the last two series didn't prove it to be true
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My guess is Earley will get back to his original lineup as soon as everyone is healthy but he will make Royo or Binderup the DH which means he'll stick with Duer in left (I'm not sure why). Watching Hacopian though, I'm not convinced he's going to be an option in the field the rest of the year.
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I will say after last weekend missing two catches Duer caught two phenomenal catches this weekend.
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TxA&Mhunter said:

I thought The consensus was TK should Be leadoff not Gavin?

Yeah, but that was back when the "Fire Early" thread still had posters in agreement with the OP.
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What makes you think Haco will be ready? I'm betting we don't see him in the field again.
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trouble said:

HoustonAg2106 said:

I thought the consensus was that Binderup can't hit SEC pitching?


Plenty of folks say that but the last two series didn't prove it to be true


How about for his career? 6-21 the last two weekends is a drastic improvement for Blake, but not exactly lighting it up.would love to see him start doing some real damage, but he still has a massive hole in his swing and that's not going away unfortunately.
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annie88 said:

I will say after last weekend missing two catches Duer caught two phenomenal catches this weekend.

Yes, Duer has done a good job in the field for sure. But TK can cover more ground and, at some key point, we may trade an out for a double. If Duer was particularly productive at the plate I could see the trade off but that just hasn't been the case. And his propensity to hit ground balls tailor made for a double play is worrisome because he can end a potentially big inning in the blink of an eye. If Earley wants to stick with him, fine (it's not like TK has been tearing it up at the plate but if he gets on he can cause some commotion) but I wish he'd put him somewhere in the lineup where he's not following our 3 most productive bats.
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phatty26 said:

Duer sits period he has been hitting under 200 the last 5 sec series and Earley sitting him for Chestnut to get the bunt down was the key to the victory yesterday.

You've made it painfully obvious that you don't like Duer. However, he's not going to sit, nor should he. If anything, when our lineup gets healthy, he may DH and Kiel play left field.
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SHSU-AG said:

phatty26 said:

Duer sits period he has been hitting under 200 the last 5 sec series and Earley sitting him for Chestnut to get the bunt down was the key to the victory yesterday.

You've made it painfully obvious that you don't like Duer. However, he's not going to sit, nor should he. If anything, when our lineup gets healthy, he may DH and Kiel play left field.

Unfortunately, it would seem Haco is DH for the foreseeable future.
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I don't think we'll see Hacopian on defense again before Supers. He worked his ass off to score late then struggled crossing the plate trying to slow down. My guess is Royo is your 2B for at least the next two weeks. Partida returning makes Bindy the odd man out.
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SHSU-AG said:

phatty26 said:

Duer sits period he has been hitting under 200 the last 5 sec series and Earley sitting him for Chestnut to get the bunt down was the key to the victory yesterday.

However, he's not going to sit, nor should he.

Why? He's .229/.356/.321 in SEC play.

Earley's insistence on keeping him in the four hole all year has probably cost us a game or two statistically speaking. I don't know if he was contractually promised that spot or something but it makes absolutely no sense
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Muktheduck said:

SHSU-AG said:

phatty26 said:

Duer sits period he has been hitting under 200 the last 5 sec series and Earley sitting him for Chestnut to get the bunt down was the key to the victory yesterday.

However, he's not going to sit, nor should he.

Why? He's .229/.356/.321 in SEC play.

Earley's insistence on keeping him in the four hole all year has probably cost us a game or two statistically speaking. I don't know if he was contractually promised that spot or something but it makes absolutely no sense

Less swing and miss with Duer than anyone that would replace him. He's a contact hitter that hits to all fields. Bindy has done good lately, but he has a track record of not producing or hitting the ball consistently. He's just a bigger strikeout candidate than Duer.
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I agree when Partida comes back Bindy goes to the bench.
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It probably hinges on whether Earley wants to have Kellner or Royo at SS. If Kellner, I think Royo is DHing if Hacopian can play 2nd. If not, then Royo can play 2nd while Hacopian keeps DHing.

Once Partida gets back on the field I'd take Duer out of left and put TK back. If Royo and Hacopian both play defense then DH will be between Duer and Binderup.
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LOYAL AG said:

I don't think we'll see Hacopian on defense again before Supers. He worked his ass off to score late then struggled crossing the plate trying to slow down. My guess is Royo is your 2B for at least the next two weeks. Partida returning makes Bindy the odd man out.

This.
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Tergdor said:

It probably hinges on whether Earley wants to have Kellner or Royo at SS. If Kellner, I think Royo is DHing if Hacopian can play 2nd. If not, then Royo can play 2nd while Hacopian keeps DHing.

Once Partida gets back on the field I'd take Duer out of left and put TK back. If Royo and Hacopian both play defense then DH will be between Duer and Binderup.


I get the concern with Duer's production but you're replacing him with a considerably worse hitter. In league play TK slugging percentage is lower than Duer's batting average. His speed on D and on the bases is an asset but he's a a considerably worse hitter.

Kellner is your best defensive SS by a decent margin. In very limited action Royo already has two errors and a lower fielding percentage than Kellner. There's a reason Kellner is the starter and why he immediately went back to SS and Royo to 2B when he came back.

Prior to the run of injuries we saw TK in LF and Duer at DH. Then we had the injuries and Royo emerged as a legit option at the plate. I think if we see Partida and Hacopian both return to the field you'll see Duer in left and probably Royo to DH. TK is extremely limited at the plate which makes it difficult to see him staying in the lineup for very long.
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I wonder why Royo can't play LF. Duer is good at getting to the ball, but I'm pretty sure my 53 YO arm could give him a decent contest. The State LF may even have been worse though. Haco scored the go ahead run without even a throw.
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94chem said:

I wonder why Royo can't play LF. Duer is good at getting to the ball, but I'm pretty sure my 53 YO arm could give him a decent contest. The State LF may even have been worse though. Haco scored the go ahead run without even a throw.


That's a good question particularly when we've seen lots of guys over the years go to LF because they hit too well to sit but aren't very good out there. Duer is a good but not great OF. He made some difficult catches against State that an inexperienced guy probably doesn't make. TK is a better defender because of his speed but Duer is almost certainly better than a guy with no experience out there.

We also have to remember why Royo that hasn't played at all until the run of injuries. Historically he's been pretty unpredictable and isn't good at sticking to the plan at the plate. Even this weekend we saw him chasing a lot of junk early and not working counts. We'll never know for sure but my guess is the staff sees him as a role player based on that. He's gone from 44 games last year to basically non existent this year until recently.
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TAMU1990 said:

I agree when Partida comes back Bindy goes to the bench.

I'm looking forward to Partida coming back too, but Bindy did hit some clutch hits at times.

You gotta give him credit for that.
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Redfishag93 said:

Who doesn't start? I say kellner. U gotta keep bindy and Royo bats in the lineup, especially considering the condition of the pitching staff currently.

Royo plays short, Hacopian 2nd and bindy to DH.

Kellner has had a good freshman season, has battled his butt off and is clearly tougher than a $2 chicken fried steak, but u gotta keep royo's bay in the lineup.

Agreed, but Kellner comes back next year, and I have a feeling Earley made some promises. The way Duer is hitting and fielding, TK would be my choice.

Not sure Partita plays in Hoover. Hamstrings can be tough to get over.
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Hacopian should stay at DH , Nico will go back to 3rd.
Lineup should be

1.Gavin 1st
2.Hacopian 2nd
3.Sorrell CF
4.Partida 3rd
5.Duer LF
6.Harrison C
7.Wilson RF
8.Royo 2nd
9.Kellner SS

If Hacopian can play the field Move Royo to LF and Duer to DH or vice versa
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GigEmADED said:

Hacopian should stay at DH , Nico will go back to 3rd.
Lineup should be

1.Gavin 1st
2.Hacopian 2nd
3.Sorrell CF
4.Partida 3rd
5.Duer LF
6.Harrison C
7.Wilson RF
8.Royo 2nd
9.Kellner SS

If Hacopian can play the field Move Royo to LF and Duer to DH or vice versa

Bear needs to stay at 4. I'd also swap Duer and Royo. Also no chance Earley breaks up Gavin and Caden at 1/2 so Haco would be 3.
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We need to be as solid as possible defensively in the outfield. I don't know if Royo has experience in the OF or not, but with our pitching we need 3 very good fielders, not a weak fielder who happens to have a better bat. I prefer TK over Duer because of his speed. But I'm a little biased. TK is a legacy that chose A&M from the beginning and seems to love the game and is a great teammate even when he isn't getting to play. If he could just get the bat going a little, I don't think there's any question he's the man.
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I like kellner too but facts are facts.

He's hitting .203 in conference while royo's hitting abut .600…limited time I know, but he looks damn good and u can't take his bat out of the lineup.

I know bindy strikes out a lot but I don't think some of y'all realize he's hitting .317 w 9 homers and 30 rbi including a 3 run bomb Friday and 4 walks Saturday….in limited ABs.

You can't take bindy's bat out of the lineup either.
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Duer has hit .138 the last five SEC series tell me which lineup that belongs in and his defense he cost us a game at Ole Miss butchering a fly ball. I'm not against him but he is all hat no cattle.
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annie88 said:

TAMU1990 said:

I agree when Partida comes back Bindy goes to the bench.

I'm looking forward to Partida coming back too, but Bindy did hit some clutch hits at times.

You gotta give him credit for that.

He did, but unfortunately for Bindy he's gonna be the odd man out in the infield.
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IF both are fully healthy (that's a big IF) I would like to potentially like to see some combination of Gavin/Royo in LF to keep Royo, Binderup, Hacopian, and Partida's bats all in the lineup. But as it stands, seems Earley is set on Duer not coming out of the lineup so Binderup probably is the odd man out in this "everyone is fully healthy" scenario (if Royo keeps up the heater)
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Sterling82 said:

My guess is Earley will get back to his original lineup as soon as everyone is healthy but he will make Royo or Binderup the DH which means he'll stick with Duer in left (I'm not sure why). Watching Hacopian though, I'm not convinced he's going to be an option in the field the rest of the year.


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TAMU1990 said:

annie88 said:

TAMU1990 said:

I agree when Partida comes back Bindy goes to the bench.

I'm looking forward to Partida coming back too, but Bindy did hit some clutch hits at times.

You gotta give him credit for that.

He did, but unfortunately for Bindy he's gonna be the odd man out in the infield.

Yep.
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Duer slumped in SEC play at the end but he was hitting .300 in SEC play through the first half of play (and .300 conference ba through tu series where he went 1 for 4). 3 for 11 against LSU and 3 for 13 against Florida (.284 conference batting average after Florida series). Then his first and only 0 fer in conference play against Auburn (0 for 11), 2 for 12 against Ole Miss and 2 for 12 with 4 rbi and 4 runs against State.

Kiel has hit no one in SEC play. His speed is compelling and an asset and he has still continued to make contact (13 walks to 6 SO in conference in 50 plus ABs), just with no power whatsoever ( .198 SLG is abysmal). Both he and Duer have hit into 2 dp in conference ( another false argument someone made). Chestnut hits with more power than Kiel. But like Chestnut, Kiel wreaks havoc on the basepaths. If they get on base, good chance they score. If we need to manufacture a run, these are two you can look to. Earley is probably using Kiel the way he should right now. Late defensive replacement, PR. It's not like Earley hasn't given TK lots of chances (16 starts in conference). I wouldn't start Kiel either right now. I wouldn't forget about him either. I don't think Earley has.

Now why Duer is in the 4 hole is a good question. Idk. But in fairness to Earley, our offense has been very good this year. Earley has juggled the lineup (and has shown a willingness) and pushed different buttons and has gotten a lot of runs out of this offense. He keeps Duer in the 4 hole. So far.

Binderup strikes out a ton. A ton. Nothing new. But he hits with tremendous power. In conference, .260 avg.,
1.015 ops (he slugs and gets his share of walks), 5 HR.

Royo has obviously been on fire since he was put in the lineup. 13 of 22 against SEC (.591 avg.). You like to see him stay in the lineup until he's not on fire. Kellner has struggled in the SEC. And has not slugged against SEC level pitching. I was thinking maybe we need to bench him for awhile and open up his spot in the lineup, even before the injury. But, he does still get on base. Over .400 in SEC play and he plays a premium defensive position. Do we have anyone better or as good defensively? Don't think we do. As already mentioned don't think you can take Kellner out for say Royo or whomever. I think you have to juggle the other positions/DH like we have been to get the hot bat in. In the end, I think the coaches are doing what they reasonably can.

I just hope guys like Partida are healthy and ready to go for the regional. We have options. More options are a good problem. Let's hope they all heat up…

And some pitchers step up (which is where my concerns are).
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you moran said:

Duer slumped in SEC play at the end but he was hitting .300 in SEC play through the first half of play (and .300 conference ba through tu series where he went 1 for 4). 3 for 11 against LSU and 3 for 13 against Florida (.284 conference batting average after Florida series). Then his first and only 0 fer in conference play against Auburn (0 for 11), 2 for 12 against Ole Miss and 2 for 12 with 4 rbi and 4 runs against State.

Kiel has hit no one in SEC play. His speed is compelling and an asset and he has still continued to make contact (13 walks to 6 SO in conference in 50 plus ABs), just with no power whatsoever ( .198 SLG is abysmal). Both he and Duer have hit into 2 dp in conference ( another false argument someone made). Chestnut hits with more power than Kiel. But like Chestnut, Kiel wreaks havoc on the basepaths. If they get on base, good chance they score. If we need to manufacture a run, these are two you can look to. Earley is probably using Kiel the way he should right now. Late defensive replacement, PR. It's not like Earley hasn't given TK lots of chances (16 starts in conference). I wouldn't start Kiel either right now. I wouldn't forget about him either. I don't think Earley has.

Now why Duer is in the 4 hole is a good question. Idk. But in fairness to Earley, our offense has been very good this year. Earley has juggled the lineup (and has shown a willingness) and pushed different buttons and has gotten a lot of runs out of this offense. He keeps Duer in the 4 hole. So far.

Binderup strikes out a ton. A ton. Nothing new. But he hits with tremendous power. In conference, .260 avg.,
1.015 ops (he slugs and gets his share of walks), 5 HR.

Royo has obviously been on fire since he was put in the lineup. 13 of 22 against SEC (.591 avg.). You like to see him stay in the lineup until he's not on fire. Kellner has struggled in the SEC. And has not slugged against SEC level pitching. I was thinking maybe we need to bench him for awhile and open up his spot in the lineup, even before the injury. But, he does still get on base. Over .400 in SEC play and he plays a premium defensive position. Do we have anyone better or as good defensively? Don't think we do. As already mentioned don't think you can take Kellner out for say Royo or whomever. I think you have to juggle the other positions/DH like we have been to get the hot bat in. In the end, I think the coaches are doing what they reasonably can.

I just hope guys like Partida are healthy and ready to go for the regional. We have options. More options are a good problem. Let's hope they all heat up…

And some pitchers step up (which is where my concerns are).


We can agree Duer should never be at 4-7, 8 or 9.
Your 4 rbis vs MSu holds no water he hit a bp fastball for a hr when the game was 17-4. The other rib was because msu botched a tailor made DP ball. Sure he's played in every series and TK got yanked for lack of production. He strikes out a lot more than you think 30k in sec play. He's not good to be anywhere but 8 or 9. Just saying other players weren't given this much rope to continue to not produce.
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