Who do we want to hire when the fire Earley?

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Bunk Moreland
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He gets as much credit for the Bucky hire as he gets heat for Earley. Both hiring time lines were not ideal and he seemingly struck gold on one and crapped out on the other.

That's fine, just don't go on tilt. Trev's ego is as big as the university though so that worries me.
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The narrative that Trev is a victim is tired. If he's not good enough to maneuver against CDC, he's not good enough.

I don't think we were in the same neighborhood with regard to what we were offering and what CDC was offering, through no fault of Trev.
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twk said:

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The narrative that Trev is a victim is tired. If he's not good enough to maneuver against CDC, he's not good enough.

I don't think we were in the same neighborhood with regard to what we were offering and what CDC was offering, through no fault of Trev.
How is that no fault of Trev? Who is in charge of ensuring our coaches have the resources they need to succeed?
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ReelAg6 said:

twk said:

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The narrative that Trev is a victim is tired. If he's not good enough to maneuver against CDC, he's not good enough.

I don't think we were in the same neighborhood with regard to what we were offering and what CDC was offering, through no fault of Trev.

How is that no fault of Trev? Who is in charge of ensuring our coaches have the resources they need to succeed?

If you want to offer what CDC offered, thats your prerogative. Different strokes for different folks.

Schloss's complaints about facilities date back to the AD who hired him, not the guy who was on the job less than four months before POS agreed to take the job in Austin.
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I don't blame Trev for hiring Earley. He was put in a pretty ****ty situation because of POS. I don't necessarily blame him for the contract either - that's what it took to secure Earley. HOWEVER, I blame him for this 2026 season. How someone can watch last season play out with Mizzou as the cherry on top, and NOT make a change is inexcusable. I don't care about what we would have owed Earley. Trev has a chance at redemption if he fires Earley this season (or after). If not maybe Trev needs to go.
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Banking a million a year? It was confirmed that he would have earned only $200k/yr as the hitting coach for tu
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Ball Five said:

Banking a million a year? It was confirmed that he would have earned only $200k/yr as the hitting coach for tu


Where was that?
Ball Five
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Here's one source:


Also saw same reported elsewhere
Bunk Moreland
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Appreciate it. I don't buy that spin at all from statesman writer after Earley left and Schloss had to hold on to Tulo because I heard he stood to make a lot more, but fair enough. He still had leverage due to the roster. I don't know that we could have hired him and kept the roster intact for $2M guaranteed but maybe we could have.
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Texas literally stole our baseball program right from under us…. They joined the SEC at peak NIL and transfer portal… seems oddly beneficial
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Last May/June, Kendall said he thought $3.9M fully guaranteed was too much, and indicated that a lower guarantee would have gotten it done. He did not say how much he thought the "baseline" was, though.
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Wabs said:

I don't blame Trev for hiring Earley. He was put in a pretty ****ty situation because of POS. I don't necessarily blame him for the contract either - that's what it took to secure Earley. HOWEVER, I blame him for this 2026 season. How someone can watch last season play out with Mizzou as the cherry on top, and NOT make a change is inexcusable. I don't care about what we would have owed Earley. Trev has a chance at redemption if he fires Earley this season (or after). If not maybe Trev needs to go.

The contract is the only reason he's still here. So if you're going to assign blame to Trev, that's where it lies.

What he does with Early has 0 impact on his job security here. As long as Elko is winning football games, Trev is safe.
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The kids played a role in his hiring, and kids will get him fired.

College athletics is a kiddy industry.
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Muktheduck said:

Wabs said:

I don't blame Trev for hiring Earley. He was put in a pretty ****ty situation because of POS. I don't necessarily blame him for the contract either - that's what it took to secure Earley. HOWEVER, I blame him for this 2026 season. How someone can watch last season play out with Mizzou as the cherry on top, and NOT make a change is inexcusable. I don't care about what we would have owed Earley. Trev has a chance at redemption if he fires Earley this season (or after). If not maybe Trev needs to go.

The contract is the only reason he's still here. So if you're going to assign blame to Trev, that's where it lies.

What he does with Early has 0 impact on his job security here. As long as Elko is winning football games, Trev is safe.


Last sentence is 100% correct. Baseball is nothing but a spring activity for Trev, second to spring football of course. Some ADs demand excellence in all sports, some don't. It is what it is.,
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S. T. F. U
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phatty26 said:

AgRyan04 said:

https://www.baseballamerica.com/stories/top-15-highest-paid-college-baseball-coaches-for-2026/

This is last year's list but he wasn't in the top 15

According to this he started at $900k last year and will get a +$50k bump each year, so he's at $950k this year. I can't imagine he's making any of the bonus incentives.

https://myaggienation.com/article_2c262cc5-101b-5254-92be-2138e56f5160.html

His buyout would be the balance of this year's salary + $1M for 2027 and $1,050,000 for 2028


Bucee needs to get involved with Nil as his wallets getting fat from stores in SEC country. He's got to go


He contributes to academics.. not athletics.
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Earley sucks at analytics.. Hinch knows how to use analytics in the right moments.
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Seems like Earley is always one pitch behind relating to in-game strategy. Pitchers are constantly being pulled AFTER giving up the back-breaking hit, despite evidence that they don't have it together on the mound.

Related: how could Earley not even think about warming up the pen on Sunday while Sims was sitting in the dugout for half an hour in the bottom of the 5th? With a 16 run lead and a warm arm growing cold, that was a disaster waiting to happen.

Then you have our pitchers throwing belt-high and up for 18 innings the first two days with solid winds blowing straight tf out.

Earley is constantly reacting instead of thinking ahead.
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ReelAg6 said:

My list of coach's to interview would be:

Hallmark (UTSA)
Dan Fitzgerald (Kansas)
Ostrander (Southern Miss)
Skip Johnson (OU)

We should hire Sabin. Steve Sabins that is, WVU head baseball coach with Texas roots. May be too early in his coaching career to target, but he is a fantastic coach.
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Eddie Vedder said:

Seems like Earley is always one pitch behind relating to in-game strategy. Pitchers are constantly being pulled AFTER giving up the back-breaking hit, despite evidence that they don't have it together on the mound.

Related: how could Earley not even think about warming up the pen on Sunday while Sims was sitting in the dugout for half an hour in the bottom of the 5th? With a 16 run lead and a warm arm growing cold, that was a disaster waiting to happen.

Then you have our pitchers throwing belt-high and up for 18 innings the first two days with solid winds blowing straight tf out.

Earley is constantly reacting instead of thinking ahead.


With Sims yesterday.. he probably has a certain number of pitches that he and each pitcher has/ needs to throw each outing to keep their arm and stamina going throughout the season… i know when I was pitching our coach did that with us pitchers… no mater the game
Situation if we pitched it was always for a certain time/ number of pitches …( unless of course you were getting rocked by the other team) but in general i would assume its something similar
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Earley said basically this in the post-game.
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Miles Finch said:

ReelAg6 said:

My list of coach's to interview would be:

Hallmark (UTSA)
Dan Fitzgerald (Kansas)
Ostrander (Southern Miss)
Skip Johnson (OU)

We should hire Sabin. Steve Sabins that is, WVU head baseball coach with Texas roots. May be too early in his coaching career to target, but he is a fantastic coach.

I like it. He made a super in year 1.
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Miles Finch said:

ReelAg6 said:

My list of coach's to interview would be:

Hallmark (UTSA)
Dan Fitzgerald (Kansas)
Ostrander (Southern Miss)
Skip Johnson (OU)

We should hire Sabin. Steve Sabins that is, WVU head baseball coach with Texas roots. May be too early in his coaching career to target, but he is a fantastic coach.
I know you said "Texas roots" and not experience, but there doesn't seem to be a lot? Did he actually go to HS in Texas? I see "born in Austin"'and one year of coaching at Angelina, but not much else?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Sabins

I did learn that Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University is a thing though and I didn't know that before today.
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Lady Aravis said:

Earley said basically this in the post-game.

well then there you go.. LOL... last time i played and pitched was 20 years ago but i guess somethings stay the same..
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Jdb101808 said:

Eddie Vedder said:

Seems like Earley is always one pitch behind relating to in-game strategy. Pitchers are constantly being pulled AFTER giving up the back-breaking hit, despite evidence that they don't have it together on the mound.

Related: how could Earley not even think about warming up the pen on Sunday while Sims was sitting in the dugout for half an hour in the bottom of the 5th? With a 16 run lead and a warm arm growing cold, that was a disaster waiting to happen.

Then you have our pitchers throwing belt-high and up for 18 innings the first two days with solid winds blowing straight tf out.

Earley is constantly reacting instead of thinking ahead.


With Sims yesterday.. he probably has a certain number of pitches that he and each pitcher has/ needs to throw each outing to keep their arm and stamina going throughout the season… i know when I was pitching our coach did that with us pitchers… no mater the game
Situation if we pitched it was always for a certain time/ number of pitches …( unless of course you were getting rocked by the other team) but in general i would assume its something similar

That's certainly what he was doing, but you could have him go throw in the pen after he's done, if necessary, in order to do that. He was not effective at all coming off the break and that was easy to predict.

I've got no problem running him out there, but I would have had someone getting loose at the start of the inning. Maybe you don't want Freshcorn getting hot (although I don't see why) if you were hoping to just throw him one inning (again, not sure I see the reason for that), but, if that's the case, I have to think there might be someone down in the pen who would like to be in a position to step in, and, at worst, face a couple of hitters before Freshcorn could get warm.

It didn't end up being a big deal, but if Georgia had scored enough to extend the game, it could have been more of a problem.
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Sean98 said:

Miles Finch said:

ReelAg6 said:

My list of coach's to interview would be:

Hallmark (UTSA)
Dan Fitzgerald (Kansas)
Ostrander (Southern Miss)
Skip Johnson (OU)

We should hire Sabin. Steve Sabins that is, WVU head baseball coach with Texas roots. May be too early in his coaching career to target, but he is a fantastic coach.

I know you said "Texas roots" and not experience, but there doesn't seem to be a lot? Did he actually go to HS in Texas? I see "born in Austin"'and one year of coaching at Angelina, but not much else?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Sabins

I did learn that Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University is a thing though and I didn't know that before today.

Yes, born and raised in Texas. He went to high school at Westwood HS in Austin. He also played one year of JUCO baseball in Texas at Angelina.
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twk said:

Jdb101808 said:

Eddie Vedder said:

Seems like Earley is always one pitch behind relating to in-game strategy. Pitchers are constantly being pulled AFTER giving up the back-breaking hit, despite evidence that they don't have it together on the mound.

Related: how could Earley not even think about warming up the pen on Sunday while Sims was sitting in the dugout for half an hour in the bottom of the 5th? With a 16 run lead and a warm arm growing cold, that was a disaster waiting to happen.

Then you have our pitchers throwing belt-high and up for 18 innings the first two days with solid winds blowing straight tf out.

Earley is constantly reacting instead of thinking ahead.


With Sims yesterday.. he probably has a certain number of pitches that he and each pitcher has/ needs to throw each outing to keep their arm and stamina going throughout the season… i know when I was pitching our coach did that with us pitchers… no mater the game
Situation if we pitched it was always for a certain time/ number of pitches …( unless of course you were getting rocked by the other team) but in general i would assume its something similar

That's certainly what he was doing, but you could have him go throw in the pen after he's done, if necessary, in order to do that. He was not effective at all coming off the break and that was easy to predict.

I've got no problem running him out there, but I would have had someone getting loose at the start of the inning. Maybe you don't want Freshcorn getting hot (although I don't see why) if you were hoping to just throw him one inning (again, not sure I see the reason for that), but, if that's the case, I have to think there might be someone down in the pen who would like to be in a position to step in, and, at worst, face a couple of hitters before Freshcorn could get warm.

It didn't end up being a big deal, but if Georgia had scored enough to extend the game, it could have been more of a problem.

yessir
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Ball Five said:

Tennessee hired Elander to succeed Vitello, also without prior HC experience. Checked the deets to compare. 5 years, $1M AAV. But holy cow, if they fire him, they only owe him 25% of his remaining salary. In what world did we need to fully guarantee all of Earley's salary? Kendall is right, no school is as stupid with contracts as we are.


I wouldn't be surprised if they learned from our mistake with a very similar situation last year and made that a sticking point in the negotiations.
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I think it comes from a deeply held belief that we have to throw around money to get what we want... after all, it's the Aggie way (or some crap like that)
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Sean98 said:

Miles Finch said:

ReelAg6 said:

I did learn that Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University is a thing though and I didn't know that before today.





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I did learn that Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University is a thing though and I didn't know that before today.


Hey now…….I just got through donating about 200 grand to that place……..
 
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