Neighbors said Schloss was moved out Sunday, ahead of final game

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SonOf_an_Ag
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Media, these guys are on record for sneaking around cemeteries at the edge of town, using burner phones to contact people, and off camera, if some of these swinger party rumors are true mr. media.......

ham it up, we need some personality that is not stale, some flavor, get T Buzbee to concoct some crap and throw it over at them in court for our own amusement.
Come Out Roll
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Uhm….how exactly did that work?
Because by the time the final game rolled around, he and the team had been up in Omaha for, what….11-12 days????
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ChubbyHubby said:

AggieArchitect04 said:

ChubbyHubby said:

AggieArchitect04 said:

ChubbyHubby said:

TAMUallen said:

ChubbyHubby said:

Everyone with a brain knows he knew he was taking the job during the CWS, but no one can prove it


Say you're not a lawyer without saying you're not a lawyer


Anyone who thinks there is going to be a lawsuit is just hopelessly naive about how these coaching hires work

Tell us how they work then.

And tell us quick because half our team is gone, the staff is gone, and the portal closes Tuesday.


The way they work is no school has ever sued another school because they hired their coach away. It would look petty and lame. Move on and get your next guy in the seat so he can get to work

Why is the portal closing on Tuesday such a time crunch? The players have a 30 day window to enter the portal because of the coaching change

All players, nationwide, have an extra 30 days because A&M's coach was stolen? That doesn't sound right.

Are you talking about our guys? Cause they are getting pinged all day, everyday by coaches around the country (including the POS they played for) while A&M tries to figure this out.

Yes, urgency is important.

Maybe you don't know how things work. Lol


I know exactly how this works, the portal closing on Tuesday isn't really a factor in the timeline…keeping our players is the reason for the urgency

I think you're confused or naive.

But good luck.
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It's not about the poaching of the coach, it's about what happened with the players . Were they tampered with and were A & M employees involved with attempts to recruit them elsewhere while under A & M employ . I don't think Texas is that dumb tho, they'd have done it thru third parties
Sq 17
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And sworn testimony is very important
If he had moving trucks before Pierce was fired he either needs

A plausible explanation which does not exist
Or
he admits he had a deal with CDC before the opening existed
Or
He lies
Right to 5th amendment not usually allowed in a civil proceeding
TAMUallen
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Come Out Roll said:

Uhm….how exactly did that work?
Because by the time the final game rolled around, he and the team had been up in Omaha for, what….11-12 days????



You think that you need to be at home for movers?

You have a whole new life to live
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well_endowed_ag
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bizag07 said:

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I've been involved in numerous contract lawsuits. Deceptive practices is a killer. It's not about a coach leaving, but how they left.
He literally had in his contract a buyout price of $2.7M to go to "any school in Texas".

The liquidated damages were very clearly contractually laid out for all parties.

Of course he has a buyout that will allow him to take another job. Thats not the issue. The issue is, does the contract permit him to negotiate a contract with another school, recruit his assistant coaches, our players, and our recruits to said other school and basically orchestrate the complete destruction of our program BEFORE he has paid the buyout, while he is still employed by us and subject to the terms of his contract with us? Of course not. Thats a breach all day long. But again, proving damages with any kind of certainty would be a problem.
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I agree our program was damaged by tu, and it's almost certain that tu broke rules in the process, but proving it and winning any award in a state dominated by t-sip politicians, judges, and lawyers just isn't likely. I wish a high powered Aggie attorney would lead the charge, and use the freedom of information act to at least embarrass tu, but I think it's very unlikely anything will be pursued.
TAMUallen
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Are yall on Adderall?
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SonOf_an_Ag said:

well_endowed_ag said:

ChubbyHubby said:

Everyone with a brain knows he knew he was taking the job during the CWS, but no one can prove it

We will absolutely be able to prove it if we decide to go to the courtroom. The circumstantial evidence is more than enough to establish that he was in talks and making preparations ahead of time. That's not even a question. The issue is whether we can we prove and quantify actual damages that we suffered as a consequence of what he did. I would say probably not. I think there's no question he breached the contract. The question is, if he had not breached the contract and had instead done everything to the letter, but still took the Texas job yesterday, would Texas A&M be in any better position than we're in now? Not really. He still would have left. He still could have taken the coaching staff. He still could have taken our players. He still could have taken our recruits. We would have to prove by a preponderance that we would have won the CWS if he hadn't been talking to Texas, or that we would have retained certain players or signed certain recruits, which would have been worth X amount of dollars to the Texas A&M program. Those damages are pretty speculative and difficult to establish with any kind of reliable methodology. Proving damages is the problem. Proving an actual breach would likely be incredibly easy.
This is college sports, this is warfare. Burn some money and sue them just to be a pain in their a$$. Do it professionally, not for $1.7 Billion dollars but like $3 million for breach of contract but do it soon while we have PR momentum w media and hire a PR firm to manage the punches and damage to TU. We need war rooms damn it!!

I don't necessarily disagree. If we sue Schloss for breach, he can't recover his attorneys' fees even if we lose (unless it says so in the contract, which I haven't seen). Granted, Texas is going to pay all of his attorneys' fees anyway, but I still am not opposed to dragging him through litigation even if it's ultimately a losing proposition. We could at least get some of his dirty secrets out in the open through discovery and burn his ass in the public eye.
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well_endowed_ag said:

SonOf_an_Ag said:

well_endowed_ag said:

ChubbyHubby said:

Everyone with a brain knows he knew he was taking the job during the CWS, but no one can prove it

We will absolutely be able to prove it if we decide to go to the courtroom. The circumstantial evidence is more than enough to establish that he was in talks and making preparations ahead of time. That's not even a question. The issue is whether we can we prove and quantify actual damages that we suffered as a consequence of what he did. I would say probably not. I think there's no question he breached the contract. The question is, if he had not breached the contract and had instead done everything to the letter, but still took the Texas job yesterday, would Texas A&M be in any better position than we're in now? Not really. He still would have left. He still could have taken the coaching staff. He still could have taken our players. He still could have taken our recruits. We would have to prove by a preponderance that we would have won the CWS if he hadn't been talking to Texas, or that we would have retained certain players or signed certain recruits, which would have been worth X amount of dollars to the Texas A&M program. Those damages are pretty speculative and difficult to establish with any kind of reliable methodology. Proving damages is the problem. Proving an actual breach would likely be incredibly easy.
This is college sports, this is warfare. Burn some money and sue them just to be a pain in their a$$. Do it professionally, not for $1.7 Billion dollars but like $3 million for breach of contract but do it soon while we have PR momentum w media and hire a PR firm to manage the punches and damage to TU. We need war rooms damn it!!

I don't necessarily disagree. If we sue Schloss for breach, he can't recover his attorneys' fees even if we lose (unless it says so in the contract, which I haven't seen). Granted, Texas is going to pay all of his attorneys' fees anyway, but I still am not opposed to dragging him through litigation even if it's ultimately a losing proposition. We could at least get some of his dirty secrets out in the open through discovery and burn his ass in the public eye.


Honest question, I'm drafting open records requests, will you help in that and submit your own?
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SonOf_an_Ag said:

well_endowed_ag said:

ChubbyHubby said:

Everyone with a brain knows he knew he was taking the job during the CWS, but no one can prove it

We will absolutely be able to prove it if we decide to go to the courtroom. The circumstantial evidence is more than enough to establish that he was in talks and making preparations ahead of time. That's not even a question. The issue is whether we can we prove and quantify actual damages that we suffered as a consequence of what he did. I would say probably not. I think there's no question he breached the contract. The question is, if he had not breached the contract and had instead done everything to the letter, but still took the Texas job yesterday, would Texas A&M be in any better position than we're in now? Not really. He still would have left. He still could have taken the coaching staff. He still could have taken our players. He still could have taken our recruits. We would have to prove by a preponderance that we would have won the CWS if he hadn't been talking to Texas, or that we would have retained certain players or signed certain recruits, which would have been worth X amount of dollars to the Texas A&M program. Those damages are pretty speculative and difficult to establish with any kind of reliable methodology. Proving damages is the problem. Proving an actual breach would likely be incredibly easy.
This is college sports, this is warfare. Burn some money and sue them just to be a pain in their a$$. Do it professionally, not for $1.7 Billion dollars but like $3 million for breach of contract but do it soon while we have PR momentum w media and hire a PR firm to manage the punches and damage to TU. We need war rooms damn it!!
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Don Powell said:

They basically drug their nuts over our face. We need to do something.

History would indicate that the only thing our administration will do is let out a breathy moan and stick their tongues out
bizag07
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Dude. There is no lawsuit, because there are clear contract terms on what happens if he moves on.

A contract cannot say "you must remain in this job until 2027", while also saying "but if you don't, the buyout is $2.7M", and then you have a case, unless he just stops working.

No contract says that he can't talk to anybody else, with a buyout in place.

What they often do say is that he has to notify A&M of any offers. Which, good luck finding paper on that. If he gets a verbal offer, on a personal cell phone, no one can prove that.

If his agent gets an offer, well, there is no contract in sports that requires him to alert the university about offers his agent has received.

Where this has no traction, whatsoever, is that he can talk to whatever agents he wants. As long as he did not communicate with a kid directly, there is no case.
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Hardest working dude in college baseball. Few can claim to be the head coach of two teams at the same time.
TAMU1990
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I wish we would act like we are in the SEC for once
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TAMU1990 said:

I wish we would act like we are in the SEC for once


Go poach someone else's coach and get after it

AggieArchitect04
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"Sorry Johnny Baseball…we can't talk today because our staff is in video depositions."

Discovery turns up A LOT. Can't assume we don't have a case because of what we know now. Discovery finds the stuff we still don't know. That stuff could be more pertinent to the case than anything we've heard at this point.

Lawsuits discourage this happening again. For everyone saying "hire the right guy and move on". Okay. And what happens in 3-4 years when things don't work out in Austin and this **** happens again? Rinse and repeat?

The PR fallout for Texas would be worth it. They have parties planned for joining the SEC. Instead of seeing Matthew McConaughy dance around like a tool on twitter, I'd much rather see headlines about Texas being sued.
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Don Powell said:

They basically drug their nuts over our face. We need to do something.


Those twinkle-toes pansies don't have nuts, just gaping gashes.
bizag07
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Also, no one had any issue with the fact that Schloss moved out of his house, 25 feet away from the TCU campus, in Mar 2021, well before he took our job in May, with years remaining on his contract.

People are just so…not smart…and too angry to see how things actually work.
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AggieArchitect04 said:

ChubbyHubby said:

AggieArchitect04 said:

ChubbyHubby said:

AggieArchitect04 said:

ChubbyHubby said:

TAMUallen said:

ChubbyHubby said:

Everyone with a brain knows he knew he was taking the job during the CWS, but no one can prove it


Say you're not a lawyer without saying you're not a lawyer


Anyone who thinks there is going to be a lawsuit is just hopelessly naive about how these coaching hires work

Tell us how they work then.

And tell us quick because half our team is gone, the staff is gone, and the portal closes Tuesday.


The way they work is no school has ever sued another school because they hired their coach away. It would look petty and lame. Move on and get your next guy in the seat so he can get to work

Why is the portal closing on Tuesday such a time crunch? The players have a 30 day window to enter the portal because of the coaching change

All players, nationwide, have an extra 30 days because A&M's coach was stolen? That doesn't sound right.

Are you talking about our guys? Cause they are getting pinged all day, everyday by coaches around the country (including the POS they played for) while A&M tries to figure this out.

Yes, urgency is important.

Maybe you don't know how things work. Lol


I know exactly how this works, the portal closing on Tuesday isn't really a factor in the timeline…keeping our players is the reason for the urgency

I think you're confused or naive.

But good luck.


Please explain to me how the portal window closing on Tuesday is imperative for us to hire a coach before then? What will be the disadvantage of hiring a coach let's say one day after the portal closes instead of 3 days before it closes?
Sq 17
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Pretty sure my wife and I were having marital issues would count as a plausible explanation hth
Drum5343
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What a masterful troll thread. Zero information. 100% speculation. Instant rage bait.
TheBonifaceOption
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Drum5343 said:

What a masterful troll thread. Zero information. 100% speculation. Instant rage bait.

I would post original stuff but it's on premium and that's a ban
BoerneGator
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TAMUallen said:

well_endowed_ag said:

SonOf_an_Ag said:

well_endowed_ag said:

ChubbyHubby said:

Everyone with a brain knows he knew he was taking the job during the CWS, but no one can prove it

We will absolutely be able to prove it if we decide to go to the courtroom. The circumstantial evidence is more than enough to establish that he was in talks and making preparations ahead of time. That's not even a question. The issue is whether we can we prove and quantify actual damages that we suffered as a consequence of what he did. I would say probably not. I think there's no question he breached the contract. The question is, if he had not breached the contract and had instead done everything to the letter, but still took the Texas job yesterday, would Texas A&M be in any better position than we're in now? Not really. He still would have left. He still could have taken the coaching staff. He still could have taken our players. He still could have taken our recruits. We would have to prove by a preponderance that we would have won the CWS if he hadn't been talking to Texas, or that we would have retained certain players or signed certain recruits, which would have been worth X amount of dollars to the Texas A&M program. Those damages are pretty speculative and difficult to establish with any kind of reliable methodology. Proving damages is the problem. Proving an actual breach would likely be incredibly easy.
This is college sports, this is warfare. Burn some money and sue them just to be a pain in their a$$. Do it professionally, not for $1.7 Billion dollars but like $3 million for breach of contract but do it soon while we have PR momentum w media and hire a PR firm to manage the punches and damage to TU. We need war rooms damn it!!

I don't necessarily disagree. If we sue Schloss for breach, he can't recover his attorneys' fees even if we lose (unless it says so in the contract, which I haven't seen). Granted, Texas is going to pay all of his attorneys' fees anyway, but I still am not opposed to dragging him through litigation even if it's ultimately a losing proposition. We could at least get some of his dirty secrets out in the open through discovery and burn his ass in the public eye.


Honest question, I'm drafting open records requests, will you help in that and submit your own?
Good bull! Hope others will follow suit! Know that a lotta Ags support any efforts to hold Al parties accountable!
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TheBonifaceOption said:

Drum5343 said:

What a masterful troll thread. Zero information. 100% speculation. Instant rage bait.

I would post original stuff but it's on premium and that's a ban


> no stars
> claims premium access

Just as I suspected
TAMUallen
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bizag07 said:

Dude. There is no lawsuit, because there are clear contract terms on what happens if he moves on.

A contract cannot say "you must remain in this job until 2027", while also saying "but if you don't, the buyout is $2.7M", and then you have a case, unless he just stops working.

No contract says that he can't talk to anybody else, with a buyout in place.

What they often do say is that he has to notify A&M of any offers. Which, good luck finding paper on that. If he gets a verbal offer, on a personal cell phone, no one can prove that.

If his agent gets an offer, well, there is no contract in sports that requires him to alert the university about offers his agent has received.

Where this has no traction, whatsoever, is that he can talk to whatever agents he wants. As long as he did not communicate with a kid directly, there is no case.


You're not a lawyer. Why do you post?

I could file a lawsuit against you tomorrow if I knew your name
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AggieArchitect04 said:

"Sorry Johnny Baseball…we can't talk today because our staff is in video depositions."

Discovery turns up A LOT. Can't assume we don't have a case because of what we know now. Discovery finds the stuff we still don't know. That stuff could be more pertinent to the case than anything we've heard at this point.

Lawsuits discourage this happening again. For everyone saying "hire the right guy and move on". Okay. And what happens in 3-4 years when things don't work out in Austin and this **** happens again? Rinse and repeat?

The PR fallout for Texas would be worth it. They have parties planned for joining the SEC. Instead of seeing Matthew McConaughy dance around like a tool on twitter, I'd much rather see headlines about Texas being sued.
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ChubbyHubby said:

AggieArchitect04 said:

ChubbyHubby said:

AggieArchitect04 said:

ChubbyHubby said:

AggieArchitect04 said:

ChubbyHubby said:

TAMUallen said:

ChubbyHubby said:

Everyone with a brain knows he knew he was taking the job during the CWS, but no one can prove it


Say you're not a lawyer without saying you're not a lawyer


Anyone who thinks there is going to be a lawsuit is just hopelessly naive about how these coaching hires work

Tell us how they work then.

And tell us quick because half our team is gone, the staff is gone, and the portal closes Tuesday.


The way they work is no school has ever sued another school because they hired their coach away. It would look petty and lame. Move on and get your next guy in the seat so he can get to work

Why is the portal closing on Tuesday such a time crunch? The players have a 30 day window to enter the portal because of the coaching change

All players, nationwide, have an extra 30 days because A&M's coach was stolen? That doesn't sound right.

Are you talking about our guys? Cause they are getting pinged all day, everyday by coaches around the country (including the POS they played for) while A&M tries to figure this out.

Yes, urgency is important.

Maybe you don't know how things work. Lol


I know exactly how this works, the portal closing on Tuesday isn't really a factor in the timeline…keeping our players is the reason for the urgency

I think you're confused or naive.

But good luck.


Please explain to me how the portal window closing on Tuesday is imperative for us to hire a coach before then? What will be the disadvantage of hiring a coach let's say one day after the portal closes instead of 3 days before it closes?

So you think our players are going to wait around to find out who we hire WHILE they are constantly harassed by other coaches nationwide? Lol

I have a bridge in Arizona you might be interested in.

We need the right guy, but everyday that passes without him hurts A&M. Not sure how anyone can argue otherwise.
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Drum5343 said:

TheBonifaceOption said:

Drum5343 said:

What a masterful troll thread. Zero information. 100% speculation. Instant rage bait.

I would post original stuff but it's on premium and that's a ban


> no stars
> claims premium access

Just as I suspected

Eat my butthole

TAMUallen
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AggieArchitect04 said:

ChubbyHubby said:

AggieArchitect04 said:

ChubbyHubby said:

AggieArchitect04 said:

ChubbyHubby said:

AggieArchitect04 said:

ChubbyHubby said:

TAMUallen said:

ChubbyHubby said:

Everyone with a brain knows he knew he was taking the job during the CWS, but no one can prove it


Say you're not a lawyer without saying you're not a lawyer


Anyone who thinks there is going to be a lawsuit is just hopelessly naive about how these coaching hires work

Tell us how they work then.

And tell us quick because half our team is gone, the staff is gone, and the portal closes Tuesday.


The way they work is no school has ever sued another school because they hired their coach away. It would look petty and lame. Move on and get your next guy in the seat so he can get to work

Why is the portal closing on Tuesday such a time crunch? The players have a 30 day window to enter the portal because of the coaching change

All players, nationwide, have an extra 30 days because A&M's coach was stolen? That doesn't sound right.

Are you talking about our guys? Cause they are getting pinged all day, everyday by coaches around the country (including the POS they played for) while A&M tries to figure this out.

Yes, urgency is important.

Maybe you don't know how things work. Lol


I know exactly how this works, the portal closing on Tuesday isn't really a factor in the timeline…keeping our players is the reason for the urgency

I think you're confused or naive.

But good luck.


Please explain to me how the portal window closing on Tuesday is imperative for us to hire a coach before then? What will be the disadvantage of hiring a coach let's say one day after the portal closes instead of 3 days before it closes?

So you think our players are going to wait around to find out who we hire WHILE they are constantly harassed by other coaches nationwide? Lol

I have a bridge in Arizona you might be interested in.

We need the right guy, but everyday that passes without him hurts A&M. Not sure how anyone can argue otherwise.


There's lots of bridges in Arizona...

I think you are dumb
Drum5343
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TheBonifaceOption said:

Drum5343 said:

TheBonifaceOption said:

Drum5343 said:

What a masterful troll thread. Zero information. 100% speculation. Instant rage bait.

I would post original stuff but it's on premium and that's a ban


> no stars
> claims premium access

Just as I suspected

Eat my butthole




Still a troll thread
houag80
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C'mon dude. His wife kicked him out because he was fkg a staffer.
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TAMUallen said:

AggieArchitect04 said:

ChubbyHubby said:

AggieArchitect04 said:

ChubbyHubby said:

AggieArchitect04 said:

ChubbyHubby said:

AggieArchitect04 said:

ChubbyHubby said:

TAMUallen said:

ChubbyHubby said:

Everyone with a brain knows he knew he was taking the job during the CWS, but no one can prove it


Say you're not a lawyer without saying you're not a lawyer


Anyone who thinks there is going to be a lawsuit is just hopelessly naive about how these coaching hires work

Tell us how they work then.

And tell us quick because half our team is gone, the staff is gone, and the portal closes Tuesday.


The way they work is no school has ever sued another school because they hired their coach away. It would look petty and lame. Move on and get your next guy in the seat so he can get to work

Why is the portal closing on Tuesday such a time crunch? The players have a 30 day window to enter the portal because of the coaching change

All players, nationwide, have an extra 30 days because A&M's coach was stolen? That doesn't sound right.

Are you talking about our guys? Cause they are getting pinged all day, everyday by coaches around the country (including the POS they played for) while A&M tries to figure this out.

Yes, urgency is important.

Maybe you don't know how things work. Lol


I know exactly how this works, the portal closing on Tuesday isn't really a factor in the timeline…keeping our players is the reason for the urgency

I think you're confused or naive.

But good luck.


Please explain to me how the portal window closing on Tuesday is imperative for us to hire a coach before then? What will be the disadvantage of hiring a coach let's say one day after the portal closes instead of 3 days before it closes?

So you think our players are going to wait around to find out who we hire WHILE they are constantly harassed by other coaches nationwide? Lol

I have a bridge in Arizona you might be interested in.

We need the right guy, but everyday that passes without him hurts A&M. Not sure how anyone can argue otherwise.


There's lots of bridges in Arizona...

I think you are dumb



Lies! There is no water anywhere in the state of Arizona.
 
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