JIM SCHLOSSNAGLE: I think it's pretty selfish of you you to ask me that question, to be honest with you. But I left my family to be the coach at Texas A&M. I took
the job at Texas A&M to never take another job again.
And that hasn't changed in my mind. That's unfair to talk about something like that. That would be like you asking Montgomery if he's going to sign in the draft. But I understand you've got to ask the question. But I gave up a big part of my life to come take this job. And I poured every ounce of my soul in this job and I gave this job every ounce I could possibly
give it. Write that.


Everything he said was in the past tense. He believed at the time, and believes now that when he took the job in 2021 he wasn't planning on ever leaving. He believes that he poured (past tense) every ounce into the job.

He was so pissed because he thought in the moment that he was exposed and that it was out that he was leaving when in reality most people thought his response was that he wasn't leaving. He thought Zane was selfish because he took that announcement away before he could announce it himself.

Sure he did. He didn't leave his family. He was already divorced with college aged children who didn't live with him.

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I took the job at Texas A&M to never take another job again.
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What I've bolded is untrue.

If relying on the past tense in that moment was his hope for a get out of jail free card... That's gonna fly like the Titanic

And that hasn't changed in my mind.

Sure, coach, sure.

Who cares. He ripped into a reporter for asking a question that turned out to be EXACTLY the right question. If he technically lied or not doesn't matter as much as how he treated somebody for doing their job and acting like it was ridiculous on its face. He validated it less than 24 hours later.

I took the job at Texas A&M to never take another job again.
And that hasn't changed in my mind.

^LIAR


He knew of this and had approved of it well before that interview

sociopaths are excellent at delivering half-truths. anyone who follows politics can tell when someone is skirting around the question.

He also told Richard Zane to "never speak to him again" after the mics were off. Guess at least that part was accurate.

Technically you can make that argument. But liars fall back on technicality because they are liars. It was intent to deceive. Any thinking human knows that. Intent to deceive is key , not technical wordsmithing.

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He also told Richard Zane to "never speak to him again" after the mics were off. Guess at least that part was accurate.

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That has been posted but deleted a lot

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I took the job at Texas A&M to never take another job again.
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It hasn't changed that when he took the job, he thought he'd never take another job.

For example, a guy gets married then divorced a few years later. At the time he got married he thought he'd never get divorced. A few years later, he still believes that at the time he got married he'd never leave, but then things changed.


Not defending the guy at all, but I think that in the heat of the moment he though he was outed when he was not.

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aggietony2010 said:

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He also told Richard Zane to "never speak to him again" after the mics were off. Guess at least that part was accurate.

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If there's a mod listening, this information is confirmed by both Looch and Richard Zane in the rapid reaction.

I can honestly say I read that too charitably when all the alarm bells had been rung. All he had to do was shut the rumor down and talk about next year.

I think Zane was given the green light on that question because TA staff realized the rumor had legs and we were all about to be blindsided. I'm grateful that Zane asked it

And **** schloss for this. The rumor day of was grade A bull***** That alone should have been enough to know not to leave. Unless he just didn't give a **** anymore because he knew he was gone. On the cusp of a championship and it didn't matter. I'm not sure how it could be read any other way. I won't blame any players for transferring but any payers that follow him… don't care.

Guys that put their soul in a team, don't get distracted with contract negotiations during a playoff run. **** that lying pole smoker. Why is the OP getting Schlong's back? Hmmmm

It depends on what your definition of "is" is
--Slick Willie

I'm not defending him. After the press conference last night I was convinced the rumors were 100% false. Now going back and looking at it, I should have given it a little more thought.

A narcissistic person will always try to spin things to justify their actions, which is what he was doing last night.

So you are saying he's just another Bill Clinton!

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dabo man said:

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I took the job at Texas A&M to never take another job again.
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It hasn't changed that when he took the job, he thought he'd never take another job.

For example, a guy gets married then divorced a few years later. At the time he got married he thought he'd never get divorced. A few years later, he still believes that at the time he got married he'd never leave, but then things changed.


Not defending the guy at all, but I think that in the heat of the moment he though he was outed when he was not.

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In the most favorable light, this is still a:

"Well, that just depends on what your definition of is, is."

type of lie.

Edit: nod to Tower for having faster thumbs.

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Technically you can make that argument. But liars fall back on technicality because they are liars. It was intent to deceive. Any thinking human knows that. Intent to deceive is key , not technical wordsmithing.

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bingo. you see it with all the backtracking now in the political sphere. "we never forced anybody to _____". he's cut from the same cloth. mastering manipulative language like that is sociopathic as hell

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dabo man said:

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I took the job at Texas A&M to never take another job again.
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What I've bolded is untrue.

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It hasn't changed that when he took the job, he thought he'd never take another job.

For example, a guy gets married then divorced a few years later. At the time he got married he thought he'd never get divorced. A few years later, he still believes that at the time he got married he'd never leave, but then things changed.


Not defending the guy at all, but I think that in the heat of the moment he though he was outed when he was not.

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So the married guy who knows he is about to get divorced says, "I never thought I would get divorced and that hasn't changed in my mind". Wow, he knows things are about to go down but still adds in that hasn't changed in his mind???

Does he walk around saying things like, "I never challenge calls because they were not allowed back when I started coaching and that hasn't changed in my mind."

Go listen to the Rapid Reaction. Brauny and Billy said "players have known something wasn't right since the UGA series in April", and TA was "hearing bubbling under the surface". A long but very good listen.

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I'm not defending him. After the press conference last night I was convinced the rumors were 100% false. Now going back and looking at it, I should have given it a little more thought.

A narcissistic person will always try to spin things to justify their actions, which is what he was doing last night.

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I went the other way and suddenly became very scared. I couldn't understand why so many on here thought he shut the door on leaving. He got angry and defensive when he shouldn't have been so upset.

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Technically you can make that argument. But liars fall back on technicality because they are liars. It was intent to deceive. Any thinking human knows that. Intent to deceive is key , not technical wordsmithing.

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bingo. you see it with all the backtracking now in the political sphere. "we never forced anybody to _____". he's cut from the same cloth. mastering manipulative language like that is sociopathic as hell

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Totally agree, and he did just that, like a slimey politician. I wouldn't be surprised if in some future interview he claims not to have lied in that press conference because he never expressly stated he wasn't taking the tu job.

His goal was deception and that was achieved. Truth is gone, getting all technical about lying. There was no integrity with his statement. Hindsight is 20/20, best he left now we see his character exposed.

Gig'em

I still don't understand why he just didn't say,

"We just came off a heart breaking loss. We gave our heart and soul to this season. This moment should be about the team. I'll answer that question at another time."

Contrary to what some believe, coaches can and do refuse to answer questions like that when they are leaving AND when they are not leaving. They often use it for leverage.

What he did was just flat out wrong.

He also forgot to mention that he's been ripping A&M off for months and was hoping this would end soon so he could put on his f*ggoty orange.

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I went the other way and suddenly became very scared. I couldn't understand why so many on here thought he shut the door on leaving. He got angry and defensive when he shouldn't have been so upset.

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I agreed with you when I read through that thread late last night and saw some other dude kept going after you like he thought you were on the witness stand or something. Funny how much some people try to dogpile when they think they know what the popular view is.

I think that in the heat of the moment he thought that Zane outed him as leaving. So instead of giving some clam non answer like you suggested, he got mad and defensive.

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You sure about that?
I get the vibe that he truly was all good until Trev Alberts started making waves in the Schloss waters.
Fired Chris Parks without discussing it.
Told him the renovations may need to be put on pause.

I think the situation he hired into was different than what its turned into now, and it really pissed him off that he wasn't gonna be getting all the things he wanted and was previously told he'd be getting

Could be wrong, but I think that's the root of it.
And his buddy CDC is just gonna let him run wild over there, because if he wins, they'll give him anything without question

The bolded is both true and untrue. It's just his way to rationalize the decision -- my intent was this was it, but you changed something on your end and things are different now...

His answer to Zane was an ultimatum at them balking at his demands.

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He also told Richard Zane to "never speak to him again" after the mics were off. Guess at least that part was accurate.

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Did he really get mad at Zane or was it all just a rehearsed act?


That has been posted but deleted a lot

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Op, you're exactly right.

Schloss was responding as if Zane had said something like "Hey coach I know you're going to tu. I'm outting you here and now."

Schloss was not resounding with fake indignation.
He was not trying to deny he was leaving.

Schloss responded like a kid caught with his hand in the cookie jar.
He was mad because he thought Zane was, in that moment, making his move to tu public knowledge.

Albert's didn't match the offer. That's all this is. It's the Jimbo anchor around our necks. We got out money whipped. And that's just plain embarrassing that we put ourselves in that position. That stupid contract is what killed this.