So I looked up the actual rule for the check swing that would've sent Florida St to the winner's bracket. It's always been one of those hard to define things for me, kind of a 'ya know it when ya see it' and that whole stadium knew it last night, you can hear it and see it in the video when it happens. But the actual rule, which I didn't see in the thread last night is this:

NCAA 2-39 Half Swing

Half Swing
SECTION 39. An attempt by the batter to stop the forward motion of the bat while swinging, which puts the batter in jeopardy of a strike being called. The half swing shall be called a strike if the barrel head of the bat passes the batter's front hip. This does not apply to a bunt attempt when the batter pulls the bat back.

So if the barrel of the bat goes past his front hip it should be called. It's hard to tell from the angle behind the pitcher, but on the replay its pretty clear he goes well beyond the hip and thus should have been rung up. He was a solid 2 feet out in front of his hip. I know there's a hesitation by umps to end a game or affect the outcome by a call like that but by not calling it he changed who went to the winners and losers bracket.

Check Swing Slo Mo Replay This youtube clip should take you right to the slow motion replay. Then there's an additional angle that follows showing that the 1st base ump could've made the call he was so far out in front.

I'm not a fan of either team but was obviously looking for the Vols to go down. They talked all game about how crucial game 1 was. I get that you can't count on the umps and you gotta overcome bad calls, but at this stage its going to be razor thin in a lot of games and you have to get the calls right. That pitcher did what he needed to do and got the batter to bite. Tough break for the 'noles

I don't have a problem with it, it's a judgment call and it's in real time, they don't get to look at every angle in super slow mo like we get to on our couch.

it is/was right in line with my post regarding the game. I didn't bring up the umpiring to try to keep the thread light, but the non-call went hand in hand with the play on the field not impressed.

Still think it will be BVS VS BAS for all the marbles. Just hope the outcome doesn't come after a questionable call by the umps.

HoustonAg2106 said:

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I don't have a problem with it, it's a judgment call and it's in real time, they don't get to look at every angle in super slow mo like we get to on our couch.

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This thread would have about 50 to 100 posts if that call had been on an A&M opponent hitter even if it was a Tuesday night game.

My son and I thought, in real time, that it was a clear strike that could have been called by the home plate umpire.

Watching the replay, I thought it was not only a "swing", but I also thought it was a strike all together.

thanks, I was beginning to think there were just 3vof us watching. Thanks Waco and Greg for playing along.

and on a similar note. this group "seems" to be a bit stronger crew.

in other news.....
Kentucky tied w NCS, man on 1st, no out. Pitching change.
Does it just mean more?

I guess it does.
Kentucky hit 3 today. impressive

Frag said:

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Watching the replay, I thought it was not only a "swing", but I also thought it was a strike all together.

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The pitch was low.

86 Tex Ag said:

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Frag said:

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Watching the replay, I thought it was not only a "swing", but I also thought it was a strike all together.

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The pitch was low.

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Regardless of whether the ball was in the strike zone or not, the swing is the main focus of this thread.

My apologies. When I read "My son and I thought, in real time, that it was a clear strike that could have been called by the home plate umpire" … I thought you were referring to a called strike (not a swinging strike). Your comment makes more sense now.

waco_aggie05 said:

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He was a solid 2 feet out in front of his hip.

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Umps don't have a very good view for those calls in general, I would have been surprised if they rung him up on that.

Edit: misread the post

We are way past due to still be depending on judgement calls from old and fat umps. Put some dam sensors, lasers,AI, anything that can start accurately calling baseball plays. It is f'n ridiculous how many games are affected by poor officiating. For the record, I think it was a swing, was a strike on the zone, and the Noles should have won that game.