Home/Away Clarification

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HJack20
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There's been a lot of discussion regarding who will be the home team.

If we play Louisiana…
We will be the away team Game 1. Both teams will have been home once, but UL will have been away twice, while we will have been away only once.
We would be the home team Game 2. We would have only been the home team once against their twice, so we get to be the home team.

If we play Texas…
We will be the home team Game 1. We will have been home once, opposed to Texas' twice.
We would be the away team Game 2. Both teams would have been home twice, but Texas would have been away twice, while we would have been away once.

Reference: https://ncaaorg.s3.amazonaws.com/championships/sports/baseball/d1/2023-24D1MBA_PrelimHostOpsManual.pdf
Hey...so.. um
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It is crazy to be the 3 seed nationally and be the away team more than home potentially in your own regional.
waco_aggie05
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It is so stupid that we were away last night in the most pivotal game of the weekend. I get if the 2 seed wins you keep home but only the ncaa could make up something so stupid. Is it an option to let the 4 seed be the home team day 1 to 'guarantee' you are home for day 2? I noticed a lot of hosts were the away team last night and several didn't fare as well as we did (Arky, OU I believe, others I don't recall). Thank goodness Ashenbeck was nails, especially when they had the potential to walk it off.
HJack20
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Hey...so.. um said:

It is crazy to be the 3 seed nationally and be the away team more than home potentially in your own regional.


Yeah. I guess I understand evening out the pitching (home pitchers don't pitch in B9 if winning), but yeah it feels wrong. Maybe have the higher seed be the home team unless it goes to the Monday game rematch.
LouisHerbertWong
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If you earn the right to host, you should be rewarded the home team every game in your own park. What an idiotic decision by the NCAA.
aggiedadofpanda
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Mike Elko said:

If you earn the right to host, you should be rewarded the home team every game in your own park. What an idiotic decision by the NCAA.


Agree 100%. NCAA overthought this one…or didn't think at all. Still not sure which.
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Mike Elko said:

If you earn the right to host, you should be rewarded the home team every game in your own park. What an idiotic decision by the NCAA.
This is the right answer. The current set up is idiotic. If you earned the right to host then the benefit should be you are the home team. Why are they negating this benefit, it isn't logical…but that fits the NCAA I guess.
Zombie Jon Snow
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OilManAg91 said:

Mike Elko said:

If you earn the right to host, you should be rewarded the home team every game in your own park. What an idiotic decision by the NCAA.
This is the right answer. The current set up is idiotic. If you earned the right to host then the benefit should be you are the home team. Why are they negating this benefit, it isn't logical…but that fits the NCAA I guess.


The higher seed should be home team in every game. I dont even understand why it's anything else. You earn those seeds based on your play for the year you should also get the advantage of being the home team when playing a lower seed.
monarch
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Or maybe the way we do things in this day and age...
Peace for Ukraine!
Aggie
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Mike Elko said:

If you earn the right to host, you should be rewarded the home team every game in your own park. What an idiotic decision by the NCAA.


At least they finally quit making host teams flip dugouts. Yeah if you were the designated " visitor" team in your home ballpark you had to occupy the opposite dugout that you were normally in.
That was really stupid
caleblyn
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Ummm

ULL was home in first game, away in second game. They will be home against tu.

Why are we not home?
Gyles Marrett
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caleblyn said:

Ummm

ULL was home in first game, away in second game. They will be home against tu.

Why are we not home?


The better seed is home if each team has been home and visitor equal number of times which is the tu UL situation. In our game each team will not have been home and visitor equal. If we play UL they will have been home twice to our once so we will be home. If we play Texas we will have been both home once but Texas will have been visitor twice so we will be visitor on game 1. OP has it flipped…..but summary is it's a ridiculous rule.
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monarch said:

Or maybe the way we do things in this day and age...
The way it is done now is actually more fair to the team with the better seed than in the past. A coin flip used to determine who was home/away if both if both teams had been the home team the same number of times. In the 2003 Regional the Aggies were the "away" team for both regional championship games despite being the #1 Seed facing the #3 Seed U of H.
trouble
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We ain't gonna need no game 2.
Sean98
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Gyles Marrett said:

caleblyn said:

Ummm

ULL was home in first game, away in second game. They will be home against tu.

Why are we not home?


The better seed is home if each team has been home and visitor equal number of times which is the tu UL situation. In our game each team will not have been home and visitor equal. If we play UL they will have been home twice to our once so we will be home. If we play Texas we will have been both home once but Texas will have been visitor twice so we will be visitor on game 1. OP has it flipped…..but summary is it's a ridiculous rule.

This is that I thought originally (and what I posted last night) too but I was wrong. OP is right.

If teams have been Home/Away equal times the tiebreaker is seed, EXCEPT if the two teams have played each other already in the regional the H/A is flipped from the first game.

So even though they've both been home and away 1x each, because texas was away the first time these two teams played, they will be Home this time
Sq 17
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I hope this thread reaches 9 pages this is classic Texags whining
Rules are in place just go out and score more runs than the other guys
LB12Diamond
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Lost track of how many posts were made on the game thread last night.

"Probably already discussed. Why are we not the home team?"
Frok
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A&M should have been able to choose to be visitor in game 1 so they can be home in game 2
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aggiedadofpanda said:

Mike Elko said:

If you earn the right to host, you should be rewarded the home team every game in your own park. What an idiotic decision by the NCAA.


Agree 100%. NCAA overthought this one…or didn't think at all. Still not sure which.
Guessing that NCAA probably trying to generate the same kind of Cinderella drama that exists in the basketball tournament. If the higher seed team were always home then the outcomes would be much closer to actual seeding.

Which is how it should be IMO. The regular season should carry more weight, especially for teams playing in their own park.
Sq 17
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Playing at home is an Ada vantage
The NCAA has decided to not have the host have the maximum amount of advantage

I am glad they changed the dug out rules and the walk up music rules
I think that makes sense makes the games better for the fans and is the correct amount of home field advantage
dBoy99
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Either give the host (higher seed) an advantage of last AB for earning the seed of play the ****ing games at neutral fields and sell zero tickets.

Stupid ****ing rule.

Oh and **** texas.
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Sq 17 said:

Playing at home is an Ada vantage
The NCAA has decided to not have the host have the maximum amount of advantage

I am glad they changed the dug out rules and the walk up music rules
I think that makes sense makes the games better for the fans and is the correct amount of home field advantage
This. Playing at home is a huge advantage. Being able to retain your usual dugout when the visiting team, and the higher seed getting home when all else is even, are two things the NCAA has done recently that give the hosts even more of an edge.

Having the last at bat is nice, but not nearly as big of a deal as just getting to play at home. We can survive batting first a few games.
dBoy99
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Looks like we're already designated the home team...

Sips are home vs ULaLa.

https://www.ncaa.com/scoreboard/baseball/d1/2024/06/02/all-conf
HJack20
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Hey, this was just an information post. I never said I support the current format.
Sean98
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dBoy99 said:

Looks like we're already designated the home team...

Sips are home vs ULaLa.

https://www.ncaa.com/scoreboard/baseball/d1/2024/06/02/all-conf
"home" for tonight has not yet been determined despite how the scoreboard tracker shows.
HJack20
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Sean98 said:

dBoy99 said:

Looks like we're already designated the home team...

Sips are home vs ULaLa.

https://www.ncaa.com/scoreboard/baseball/d1/2024/06/02/all-conf
"home" for tonight has not yet been determined despite how the scoreboard tracker shows.


Texas is home. Both UL and Texas have played 1 home, 1 away. Per the rules, since they previously met and UL was home, Texas will be home today.

Edit, oh sorry you were referring to our game. Yeah, it depends on the UL v Texas game.
AgLA06
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Mike Elko said:

If you earn the right to host, you should be rewarded the home team every game in your own park. What an idiotic decision by the NCAA.
Yep. Higher seed should always be home team. Even if it's 3 vs 4.
AgLA06
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LB12Diamond said:

Lost track of how many posts were made on the game thread last night.

"Probably already discussed. Why are we not the home team?"
So game 1 was "is the run rule in effect?"

Game 2 was "WHy are we not the home team?"

Who's calling game 3's annoyingly already answered question of the game.
dBoy99
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Then why are some #1s visiting on the tracker?
HJack20
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dBoy99 said:

Then why are some #1s visiting on the tracker?


Im not going to do the digging, but there are probably some situations in other regionals where the result of the day elimination game doesn't affect who is home/away for the night game. In our case, it does. Refer to the PDF in the original post to see the rules on it.
Sean98
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dBoy99 said:

Then why are some #1s visiting on the tracker?
Because the way their brackets played out they're locked into the visitors role no matter the outcome. We could be home or away, and they're not going to put our game up twice, one for each possible outcome.
HJack20
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halfastros81 said:

I wondered about why the higher seed wasn't the home team.

I don't like the format where a team that hasn't lost a regional game can be eliminated with one loss in the championship game. It should be pure double elimination. Granted we have a major advantage in the champ game because of one fewer game played but still… it' should be pure double elimination imo.


It is. We have to lose twice. If we lose tonight, we play again Monday.
Sean98
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halfastros81 said:

I wondered about why the higher seed wasn't the home team.

I don't like the format where a team that hasn't lost a regional game can be eliminated with one loss in the championship game. It should be pure double elimination. Granted we have a major advantage in the champ game because of one fewer game played but still… it' should be pure double elimination imo.
It IS pure double elimination. Should we lose tonight we play a winner take all game tomorrow.
jkag89
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Reason has no place on TexAgs, you should know that by now Tom.
wisdom
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In my view, Texas A&M should bat last as the "home" team, whether a play-off game or a regular season game, and regardless of the venue or location of the game. Why? Because we are TEXAS A&M. Full stop.




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