Southlake said:
Just seems they are worn out.
LOL... They're in their 20's, in top physical shape, and play three or four games a week.
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LOL... They're in their 20's, in top physical shape, and play three or four games a week.
This is the worst take I've seen on TA in a long time. Not sure of your goal here, but to say our OF are not good is nothing short of shocking. Jace and Braden and regarded as two of the best in college baseball. Jace invited back to team USA (Braden would have been as well if he wasn't draft eligible). Sorrell plays beyond his years as a freshmen. Have they made some mistakes? Sure. So does Big Leaguers. Any other team would kill to have our trio.
It's almost like a sophomore with a live arm and good stuff is not consistent. Weird.AggieBB said:jja79 said:AggieBB said:HeyAbbott said:
We had have pitching issues for awhile especially with starting pitching over the past few weeks and that is our #1 problem which isn't going to get solved anytime soon.
LOL when is the last time we lost a game BECAUSE of pitching? Can't really say today either because we scored two freakin runs against garbage pitching. Two.
Brauny said a MLB scout told him to watch the kid today so maybe it wasn't garbage pitching.
Well he still has an ERA over 5 even after giving up only one run yesterday and lowering his era. Yeah, he's garbage.
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This is the worst take I've seen on TA in a long time. Not sure of your goal here, but to say our OF are not good is nothing short of shocking. Jace and Braden and regarded as two of the best in college baseball. Jace invited back to team USA (Braden would have been as well if he wasn't draft eligible). Sorrell plays beyond his years as a freshmen. Have they made some mistakes? Sure. So does Big Leaguers. Any other team would kill to have our trio.
The bad take is your lack of reading comprehension. I did not say they are not good. I said they aren't elite and lack fundamentals. I mentioned only their ability to play OF yet folks on here want to babble about the hitting ability.
Our guys make poor decisions on getting the ball in regularly (cut off misses, and wrong base throws). They never, NEVER, get behind the ball and move forward to use momentum, they camp under it and have to gather themselves before taking two steps towards their target which takes valuable seconds. You can't do that unless your Jeff Francouer. Our guys don't charge ground balls and scoop and crow hop before a throw, nor round them off to have momentum going towards their throw.
Typically only elite OFs do these things and that was was my entire post. We do not recruit elite OFs that can hit nor are elite OF that can also hit being developed in HS. It is a glaring trend.
It is an observation and my opinion. Praise them all you wish.
If you watch enough college baseball, this is just how outfield is now. Missed cutoffs, bad decisions, poor angles.
Absolutely you're entitled to your opinion. But we clearly disagree which is fine and allowedLatinAggie1997 said:StinkyPinky said:
This is the worst take I've seen on TA in a long time. Not sure of your goal here, but to say our OF are not good is nothing short of shocking. Jace and Braden and regarded as two of the best in college baseball. Jace invited back to team USA (Braden would have been as well if he wasn't draft eligible). Sorrell plays beyond his years as a freshmen. Have they made some mistakes? Sure. So does Big Leaguers. Any other team would kill to have our trio.
The bad take is your lack of reading comprehension. I did not say they are not good. I said they aren't elite and lack fundamentals. I mentioned only their ability to play OF yet folks on here want to babble about the hitting ability.
Our guys make poor decisions on getting the ball in regularly (cut off misses, and wrong base throws). They never, NEVER, get behind the ball and move forward to use momentum, they camp under it and have to gather themselves before taking two steps towards their target which takes valuable seconds. You can't do that unless your Jeff Francouer. Our guys don't charge ground balls and scoop and crow hop before a throw, nor round them off to have momentum going towards their throw.
Typically only elite OFs do these things and that was was my entire post. We do not recruit elite OFs that can hit nor are elite OF that can also hit being developed in HS. It is a glaring trend.
It is an observation and my opinion. Praise them all you wish.
I believe they are elite and will be drafted as such. And yes, I misinterpreted your words (good vs elite). Correction on my behalf.
We both want to go to Omaha and win and that's what I hope happens.
It just frustrates me because my daughter played OF and they drilled and drilled to be elite. I saw changes coming even in softball back in 2015 when UF had great hitters in the OF but only one true OF. They made poor plays on occasion but made up for it at the plate.
I just miss the days of 5 tool players, especially 4 tool in the OF, but that starts at a young age.
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It just frustrates me because my daughter played OF and they drilled and drilled to be elite. I saw changes coming even in softball back in 2015 when UF had great hitters in the OF but only one true OF. They made poor plays on occasion but made up for it at the plate.
I just miss the days of 5 tool players, especially 4 tool in the OF, but that starts at a young age.
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powerbelly said:
If you watch enough college baseball, this is just how outfield is now. Missed cutoffs, bad decisions, poor angles.
Absolutely agree. Softball also went the route of hitters over specialist in the OF.
If we lose back to back games I would rather it be on the road during conference plat against the past two NCAA champions then at home at a reional or super regional
I agree, strange.Mike Elko said:Southlake said:
Just seems they are worn out.
LOL... They're in their 20's, in top physical shape, and play three or four games a week.
the troubling trend...
this is not the way the 2022 club played or trended on the way to their 3rd place finish in Omaha
the '22 squad caught fire the first week of April and never looked back...won every series / weekend the rest of the season
this is not the way the 2022 club played or trended on the way to their 3rd place finish in Omaha
the '22 squad caught fire the first week of April and never looked back...won every series / weekend the rest of the season
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Luke The Drifter said:
Our fundamentals have definitely taken a nosedive the last few weeks. Missing the cutoff man, throwing to the wrong base, etc. has become all too common recently. This team is in a funk right now, too to bottom. Hope we snap out of it quickly.
i would agree with you. As Ron Washington would say that's how baseball go. but it is true. baseball is a game that can complete humble you. we are in a slump, but if we can pull out of this little slump before postseason it could be perfect timing. it can absolutely snap back the other way and we take back off again.
Looks just fine today.
Not sure what you were ever talking about, uninformed wannabe coach.
Not sure what you were ever talking about, uninformed wannabe coach.
AggieBB said:jja79 said:AggieBB said:HeyAbbott said:
We had have pitching issues for awhile especially with starting pitching over the past few weeks and that is our #1 problem which isn't going to get solved anytime soon.
LOL when is the last time we lost a game BECAUSE of pitching? Can't really say today either because we scored two freakin runs against garbage pitching. Two.
Brauny said a MLB scout told him to watch the kid today so maybe it wasn't garbage pitching.
Well he still has an ERA over 5 even after giving up only one run yesterday and lowering his era. Yeah, he's garbage.
Just relaying what Brauny said a MLB scout told him. Seems like a pretty good source.
Average was in regards to their defense. They are elite because of the bat.RED AG 98 said:themissinglink said:
While it hasn't been great lately, I'll take 2 guys who can slug 25+ HRs with >1.200 OPS with questionable defense over a bunch of scrawny defensive minded guys with ~.800 OPS.
Sorrell's defense is really good. Jace and Monty are at worst average college CF and RF.
MLB draft projections do not agree with the assessment of "average", at all. I know you said at worst, so sure, at worst. But these are currently two of the most elite in the sport.
Monty: projected 2024 RD 1 in the 10-20 range
Jace: projected 2025 RD 1 in the 1-5 range
Yes they can hit but average college OFs are not taken with early day 1 money.
I hear ya but I will tell you speaking from experience there are ALOT of "mlb scouts" that are terrible talent evaluators. I mean really bad.jja79 said:AggieBB said:jja79 said:AggieBB said:HeyAbbott said:
We had have pitching issues for awhile especially with starting pitching over the past few weeks and that is our #1 problem which isn't going to get solved anytime soon.
LOL when is the last time we lost a game BECAUSE of pitching? Can't really say today either because we scored two freakin runs against garbage pitching. Two.
Brauny said a MLB scout told him to watch the kid today so maybe it wasn't garbage pitching.
Well he still has an ERA over 5 even after giving up only one run yesterday and lowering his era. Yeah, he's garbage.
Just relaying what Brauny said a MLB scout told him. Seems like a pretty good source.
Yes, I understand, but it's still a bit absurd. All of our current starting outfielders are seriously tooled up. Yes obviously they can hit, but both of those two referenced above are + across the board and ++ on at least a few.themissinglink said:Average was in regards to their defense. They are elite because of the bat.RED AG 98 said:themissinglink said:
While it hasn't been great lately, I'll take 2 guys who can slug 25+ HRs with >1.200 OPS with questionable defense over a bunch of scrawny defensive minded guys with ~.800 OPS.
Sorrell's defense is really good. Jace and Monty are at worst average college CF and RF.
MLB draft projections do not agree with the assessment of "average", at all. I know you said at worst, so sure, at worst. But these are currently two of the most elite in the sport.
Monty: projected 2024 RD 1 in the 10-20 range
Jace: projected 2025 RD 1 in the 1-5 range
Yes they can hit but average college OFs are not taken with early day 1 money.
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Bump. Jace and Caden literally saved the game last night with their defense.LatinAggie1997 said:
Lack of OF specialists. We have hitters playing OF. It frustrates me as I see multiple times our OF play has cost us bases and runs.
I hope to see the day when we have 2-3 guys know how to play OF at an elite level.
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Better let all those MLB scouts that have B-Mont in the Top 10 know your hot take.LatinAggie1997 said:StinkyPinky said:
This is the worst take I've seen on TA in a long time. Not sure of your goal here, but to say our OF are not good is nothing short of shocking. Jace and Braden and regarded as two of the best in college baseball. Jace invited back to team USA (Braden would have been as well if he wasn't draft eligible). Sorrell plays beyond his years as a freshmen. Have they made some mistakes? Sure. So does Big Leaguers. Any other team would kill to have our trio.
The bad take is your lack of reading comprehension. I did not say they are not good. I said they aren't elite and lack fundamentals. I mentioned only their ability to play OF yet folks on here want to babble about the hitting ability.
Our guys make poor decisions on getting the ball in regularly (cut off misses, and wrong base throws). They never, NEVER, get behind the ball and move forward to use momentum, they camp under it and have to gather themselves before taking two steps towards their target which takes valuable seconds. You can't do that unless your Jeff Francouer. Our guys don't charge ground balls and scoop and crow hop before a throw, nor round them off to have momentum going towards their throw.
Typically only elite OFs do these things and that was was my entire post. We do not recruit elite OFs that can hit nor are elite OF that can also hit being developed in HS. It is a glaring trend.
It is an observation and my opinion. Praise them all you wish.
People think I'm an idiot or something, because all I do is cut lawns for a living.
LatinAggie1997 said:StinkyPinky said:
This is the worst take I've seen on TA in a long time. Not sure of your goal here, but to say our OF are not good is nothing short of shocking. Jace and Braden and regarded as two of the best in college baseball. Jace invited back to team USA (Braden would have been as well if he wasn't draft eligible). Sorrell plays beyond his years as a freshmen. Have they made some mistakes? Sure. So does Big Leaguers. Any other team would kill to have our trio.
The bad take is your lack of reading comprehension. I did not say they are not good. I said they aren't elite and lack fundamentals. I mentioned only their ability to play OF yet folks on here want to babble about the hitting ability.
Our guys make poor decisions on getting the ball in regularly (cut off misses, and wrong base throws). They never, NEVER, get behind the ball and move forward to use momentum, they camp under it and have to gather themselves before taking two steps towards their target which takes valuable seconds. You can't do that unless your Jeff Francouer. Our guys don't charge ground balls and scoop and crow hop before a throw, nor round them off to have momentum going towards their throw.
Typically only elite OFs do these things and that was was my entire post. We do not recruit elite OFs that can hit nor are elite OF that can also hit being developed in HS. It is a glaring trend.
It is an observation and my opinion. Praise them all you wish.
Your take is bad and you should feel bad.
Both Jace and Braden are elite OF and 5-tool players. Sorrell is a 5-tool player too and not far behind the other two OF.
Your assessment of their fundamentals is way off too. They regularly do what you're claiming they don't do. I really can't fathom how you've formulated this take. They've all made mistakes but that happens, nobody is ever perfect but you're just spouting off a bunch of stuff which has almost no basis in reality.
Of all the bad takes I've ever seen on here this is really up there with the worst.
themissinglink said:Average was in regards to their defense. They are elite because of the bat.RED AG 98 said:themissinglink said:
While it hasn't been great lately, I'll take 2 guys who can slug 25+ HRs with >1.200 OPS with questionable defense over a bunch of scrawny defensive minded guys with ~.800 OPS.
Sorrell's defense is really good. Jace and Monty are at worst average college CF and RF.
MLB draft projections do not agree with the assessment of "average", at all. I know you said at worst, so sure, at worst. But these are currently two of the most elite in the sport.
Monty: projected 2024 RD 1 in the 10-20 range
Jace: projected 2025 RD 1 in the 1-5 range
Yes they can hit but average college OFs are not taken with early day 1 money.
This is just a completely terrible take that is no way, shape, or form supported by the evidence of their play. They're not Jim Edmonds in the OF but they're way above average. All 3 have plus speed and plus arms and I've not seen much evidence of bad angles.
I'm not at all agreeing with the insane take(s) above, but there have been some bad angles by Braden from time to time, and one by Sorrell early in the year (more a lack of effort really) that I think got him pulled. With B-Mont right now I think it's more of an issue of his lack of plate success being carried out to the field. Hard to be a total bad ass and then scuffle and not let that impact other parts of your game. I never had that problem because I sucked so failure was just ho-hum normal.
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Detective Jake Peralta said:Bump. Jace and Caden literally saved the game last night with their defense.LatinAggie1997 said:
Lack of OF specialists. We have hitters playing OF. It frustrates me as I see multiple times our OF play has cost us bases and runs.
I hope to see the day when we have 2-3 guys know how to play OF at an elite level.
Bump again. I'm petty.
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OF - Jace LaViolette
OF - Braden Montgomery#GigEm pic.twitter.com/AuyaUWMEIw
I was going to if you didn't
And Caden is honestly better defensively than Jace and Braden, just didn't play enough games this seasonDetective Jake Peralta said:Detective Jake Peralta said:Bump. Jace and Caden literally saved the game last night with their defense.LatinAggie1997 said:
Lack of OF specialists. We have hitters playing OF. It frustrates me as I see multiple times our OF play has cost us bases and runs.
I hope to see the day when we have 2-3 guys know how to play OF at an elite level.
Bump again. I'm petty.๐๐๐ ๐๐๐-๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐
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OF - Jace LaViolette
OF - Braden Montgomery#GigEm pic.twitter.com/AuyaUWMEIw
Just goes to show you can always find something to nitpick a team about if you have some kind of pet peeve. No its not elite, but it doesn't have to be. Just win baby and keep on winning!
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