What is the A&M season HR record?
NCAA season HR record?

It's just ridiculous that Montgomery is already at 17

The countdown is at



to break the season record.

Aggie: Daylan Holt 34 (1999)
NCAA D1: Pete Incaviglia 48 Okie State (1985)
State of Texas: Lance Berkman 41 Rice (1997)

jkag89 said:

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Aggie: Daylan Holt 34 (1999)
NCAA D1: Pete Incaviglia 48 Okie State (1985)
State of Texas: Lance Berkman 41 Rice (1997)

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Thanks. I'd guess those include postseason?

jkag89 said:

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Aggie: Daylan Holt 34 (1999)
NCAA D1: Pete Incaviglia 48 Okie State (1985)
State of Texas: Lance Berkman 41 Rice (1997)

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Holt was 25 years ago???? Way to make me feel old.............

Adam87inSA said:

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jkag89 said:

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Aggie: Daylan Holt 34 (1999)
NCAA D1: Pete Incaviglia 48 Okie State (1985)
State of Texas: Lance Berkman 41 Rice (1997)

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Thanks. I'd guess those include postseason?

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Yes

Really hard to compare against pre-bbcor days to be fair. Monty is an animal.

When did bbcor era start?

The bats AND the balls have changed a ton through the years and you see that reflected pretty consistently. The bats aren't juices right now but most would argue the balls are pretty hot.

BBCOR bat standards were adopted in 2011. It went way too far and led to the 2-1, 15 sac bunt era of baseball that lasted a couple of years. It was awful.

Adam87inSA said:

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When did bbcor era start?

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Like 2010-2011, IIRC.

Originally there were no restrictions and then in the early/mid-90's bats were made stupid hot. Like legitimately dangerous. This is when guys like Holt and Berkman had such ridiculous seasons.

Then, in the early-2000's the first "restricted" bats were called BESR (IIRC). I forget the specs but those were somewhere in between the BBCOR and the bats of the 1990s.

They tweaked the bats after the '98 season and again after '99. Daylan hit his 34 HR in '99 with a bat that was only used that one season.

I believe that the same bats were used from 2000-2010, and then came BBCOR.

So, from this discussion, it's seems that at least post-2000 HR record (or post-2010) is truly the stat to measure by

In my opinion yes, the bats in the 90s were insane and there was a reason they had to start restricting them and the BBCOR bats which is what they swing now restricted them even more.

How long has it been since the seams on the ball were lowered? It was to the point where balls that were crushed were being caught before the warning tracked on the high seamed balls.

Wood is too expensive but hard to game.

I would not discount pre-Gorilla Ball Era home run totals. IMO the bats did not really start to get out of control until the late '90s. Incaviglia's 48 bombs are legit.

Sean98 said:

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The bats AND the balls have changed a ton through the years and you see that reflected pretty consistently. The bats aren't juices right now but most would argue the balls are pretty hot.

BBCOR bat standards were adopted in 2011. It went way too far and led to the 2-1, 15 sac bunt era of baseball that lasted a couple of years. It was awful.

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I graduated HS in 1995 which was not long after the stupid hot bats went into use and the crazy thing is that throughout the late-90's, I don't recall any HS kids hitting HR at the clip they do today with BBCOR.

A complete stud in HS back in the mid- to late-90's might hit 5 HR in a season and now it's not at all uncommon to see double that or more.

jkag89 said:

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I would not discount pre-Gorilla Ball Era home run totals. IMO the bats did not really start to get out of control until the late '90s. Incaviglia's 48 bombs are legit.

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This. Inky was a straight up monster.

jkag89 said:

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I would not discount pre-Gorilla Ball Era home run totals. IMO the bats did not really start to get out of control until the late '90s. Incaviglia's 48 bombs are legit.

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I generally agree except that the bats got stupid around 1995 or so.

The Bat Bros video I posted shows those 80's bats are about like today's BBCOR.

jkag89 said:

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Aggie: Daylan Holt 34 (1999)
NCAA D1: Pete Incaviglia 48 Okie State (1985)
State of Texas: Lance Berkman 41 Rice (1997)

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48 homers in a year is insane

I suspect the bats have been gradually (and unceremoniously) tweaked since BBCOR. HRs are WAAAAY up since BBCOR inception

As for the balls, the seams were lowered about a year or 2 into BBCOR to give more "carry", but that doesn't account for the power hitting of today

Bats, balls, maybe a combination

Whatever it is, it's juiced up compared to BBCOR inception, and lower seams

In the CWS that year, Incaviglia was 0-4 in a close game. OSU trailing late He had hit an HR in his last AB in the previous game apparently. Just as soon as the announcer got through saying something like "Inky averages 1 home run every 5 at bats, *chuckle*", Incaviglia crushes one into the streets of Omaha to give OSU the lead.

you moran said:

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In the CWS that year, Incaviglia was 0-4 in a close game. OSU trailing late He had hit an HR in his last AB in the previous game apparently. Just as soon as the announcer got through saying something like "Inky averages 1 home run every 5 at bats, *chuckle*", Incaviglia crushes one into the streets of Omaha to give OSU the lead.

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Through last night, B Montgomery 109 AB, 17 HR. One HR every 6.4 AB

Monty is on fire right now. What's his number in the last, what, 10 ish games. Or the last 5. Lol. Let's hope he keeps that pace and breaks a few more windows.

BLSmith04 said:

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jkag89 said:

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Aggie: Daylan Holt 34 (1999)
NCAA D1: Pete Incaviglia 48 Okie State (1985)
State of Texas: Lance Berkman 41 Rice (1997)

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48 homers in a year is insane

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Incaviglia played in the era when bats were dangerously powerful.

Typical college game in those days ended in a score of 19 to 16.

Captain Pablo said:

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I suspect the bats have been gradually (and unceremoniously) tweaked since BBCOR. HRs are WAAAAY up since BBCOR inception

As for the balls, the seams were lowered about a year or 2 into BBCOR to give more "carry", but that doesn't account for the power hitting of today

Bats, balls, maybe a combination

Whatever it is, it's juiced up compared to BBCOR inception, and lower seams

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Maybe but I think the seam change was more recent. We went a while with small ball. It seems like that was only five seasons or so ago.

Martin Cash said:

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BLSmith04 said:

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jkag89 said:

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Aggie: Daylan Holt 34 (1999)
NCAA D1: Pete Incaviglia 48 Okie State (1985)
State of Texas: Lance Berkman 41 Rice (1997)

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48 homers in a year is insane

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Incaviglia played in the era when bats were dangerously powerful.

Typical college game in those days ended in a score of 19 to 16.

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Nope. The bats of the '80s were no way as powerful as those of the late '90s and '00s.

Martin Cash said:

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BLSmith04 said:

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jkag89 said:

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Aggie: Daylan Holt 34 (1999)
NCAA D1: Pete Incaviglia 48 Okie State (1985)
State of Texas: Lance Berkman 41 Rice (1997)

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48 homers in a year is insane

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Incaviglia played in the era when bats were dangerously powerful.

Typical college game in those days ended in a score of 19 to 16.

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Pitching was worse as well.

jkag89 said:

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I would not discount pre-Gorilla Ball Era home run totals. IMO the bats did not really start to get out of control until the late '90s. Incaviglia's 48 bombs are legit.

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Just curious if OSU's ball park was considered a band box at the time.

But Inky did look like one of the roided-up MLB guys from the Bonds/MCGuire/Sosa age way back in the 80's so no doubt he was a beast.

Naw. The bats in '85 were more akin to the bats of today.

I remember when the green Eastons came out earlier that decade. I still have one. 34" barrel, 32 ounces. I made fun of the kid that was an earlier purchaser because his was 34, 33. That became obsolete pretty quickly. Mine became obsolete quickly. Played on teams with the super rich kid who upgraded every year. Through the 80s, the ounces for the same barrel kept going down. Then the black magic's hit the shelfs. Like 28 or 29 ounces or some non sense. Then the materials got better? Or something through the 90s. Not sure but baseballs were coming off the bats hotter than ever in the nineties.

But the mid-eighties were nothing special in hind sight other than not being wood. The very first bbcors were supposed to be closer or more similar to wood. That has changed it seems as some have mentioned.

Now the 80s may have had other factors like roids or something. Which only got worse (or better in terms of effectiveness) in the 90s and so on. Baseballs have also been tweaked back and forth it seems. Don't know these days. Pitching depth?? Don't know.

Also, the 80s compared to previous decades certainly had an advantage with the bats. So, in fairness, the 80s were "hot" to the even older dudes and would probably be described that way. Lol.

Post bbcor, I believe Jac C set the HR record last year with 33. Surpassing Melendez and 32 from 2022. We are seeing a steady rise again.

Allie P. Reynolds Stadium had normal dimensions. I don't recall if the wind affected the carry of the ball.

In fairness to Martin Cash, when Ledbetter banged out 42 long balls to set the then college record in the the early 80s, the bats were certainly hot in comparison at the time. I nean we still liked our shortstops hitting a buck 85 in the pros.

Our parents called us ******* for hitting with aluminum and those overpriced panzy bats. Instead of hitting with a tree branch you just cut from someone's back forty.

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Allie P. Reynolds Stadium had normal dimensions. I don't recall if the wind affected the carry of the ball.

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Many years ago I had a conversation with AB2 while at Allie P. Reynolds. He told me that he could stand on home plate, relieve himself, and the stream would go over the left field wall.

I don't remember the dimensions, but I went to a bunch of games there. It was an absolute bandbox.

That's hilarious.

I did that in Lubbock once.