Game cancelled. Let the conspiracy theories commence!

The bus broke down.

Are you serious? I literally JUST THIS MORNING bought tickets to the game.

MSU on Sunday is our final home game outside of Regionals.

It's still listed on our website.
https://12thman.com/sports/baseball/schedule/2022

It has been cancelled. Schloss just said it.

Smart, absolutely no good can come from playing that game. Other teams (Notre Dame) are doing the same. I think Schloss and AD realize we do have an RPI issue.

Agree but do not remember it happening in the past unless weather related.

A. We absolutely shouldn't play a game that only hurts us. I agree with whatever decision process was used in getting here.

B. It is insanely stupid that in the current system, winning a game can drop your ranking. Something needs to change

Dammit. The boys were looking forward to that

Time for the Matthew Broderick GIF

the only way to win is to not play

Disappointing but understandable and not just for RPI. We have to travel to play Ole Miss in Oxford for a Thru/Fri/Sat series. In the past I don't recall scheduling a midweek before the last SEC weekend because of those series all start a day early because of the SEC tournament.

Looking at Incarnate Word's schedule, the Southland conference tourney also starts on Thursday and mimics the regional format in weekend 1 and the super regional format in weekend 2. They have the potential for 5 games in four days this weekend. They also might be wanting to save their pitching and are happy to get out of it as well.

RikkiTikkaTagem said:

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A. We absolutely shouldn't play a game that only hurts us. I agree with whatever decision process was used in getting here.

B. It is insanely stupid that in the current system, winning a game can drop your ranking. Something needs to change

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Agree.

And something is wrong when schools like DBU game the schedule to get RPI points.

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Agree but do not remember it happening in the past unless weather related.

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Derm: It ain't like it used to be!

Any chance that, with the new staff, we might see higher quality OOC matchups?

We wouldn't need to go DBU with it, but I'd be happy to see us lose a couple more midweek games in a season if it meant good baseball games against decent teams.

It's not just a midweek problem... Fordham has been killing our RPI all season.

I feel like it's a losing situation when you find yourself rooting for the cancellation of baseball games in order to preserve RPI. I think there's a little more to it in this situation, but I'm also hoping that the program we end up with after another year or two of Schloss is capable of seeing more of the DBUs and less of the Incarnate Words without spreading ourselves too thin for the SEC slate.

I get it .. but we have canceled two games this season for no reason other than " well it doesn't benefit us"


Never in 30+ years of Aggie baseball have I seen one much less two games canceled for no reason

But this day age of me, me, me and transfer portal, and what do I get out of it, where is my ribbon… my son deserves to play 100% of the time…. Can't say it really surprises me

Aggie said:

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I get it .. but we have canceled two games this season for no reason other than " well it doesn't benefit us"


Never in 30+ years of Aggie baseball have I seen one much less two games canceled for no reason

But this day age of me, me, me and transfer portal, and what do I get out of it, where is my ribbon… my son deserves to play 100% of the time…. Can't say it really surprises me

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Oh, it's happened in the past. Even happened once in conference play when we were playing the final series at Ole Miss (deja vu); we had some rain issues, and rather than play a DH of 7 inning games, we played one game, then decided that we couldn't get the other game in. It was mutually beneficial to both to make that call.

twk said:

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Aggie said:

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I get it .. but we have canceled two games this season for no reason other than " well it doesn't benefit us"


Never in 30+ years of Aggie baseball have I seen one much less two games canceled for no reason

But this day age of me, me, me and transfer portal, and what do I get out of it, where is my ribbon… my son deserves to play 100% of the time…. Can't say it really surprises me

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Oh, it's happened in the past. Even happened once in conference play when we were playing the final series at Ole Miss (deja vu); we had some rain issues, and rather than play a DH of 7 inning games, we played one game, then decided that we couldn't get the other game in. It was mutually beneficial to both to make that call.

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Rain issues .. forced to play two 7 inning DH
There were issues surrounding that cancellation


When have we ever Just canceled a game out of the blue for no reason at all

dermdoc said:

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RikkiTikkaTagem said:

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A. We absolutely shouldn't play a game that only hurts us. I agree with whatever decision process was used in getting here.

B. It is insanely stupid that in the current system, winning a game can drop your ranking. Something needs to change

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Agree.

And something is wrong when schools like DBU game the schedule to get RPI points.

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DBU has played 21 road games and 1 neutral game, which is plenty, but less than a lot of teams out there.

The Longhorns have played, for example, 22 road games and 3 neutral games.

DBU is #3 and Texas is a huge disappointment because DBU has won 14 of their 25 games with top 50 RPIs and Texas is 10-10.

JLammers said:

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Any chance that, with the new staff, we might see higher quality OOC matchups?

We wouldn't need to go DBU with it, but I'd be happy to see us lose a couple more midweek games in a season if it meant good baseball games against decent teams.

It's not just a midweek problem... Fordham has been killing our RPI all season.

I feel like it's a losing situation when you find yourself rooting for the cancellation of baseball games in order to preserve RPI. I think there's a little more to it in this situation, but I'm also hoping that the program we end up with after another year or two of Schloss is capable of seeing more of the DBUs and less of the Incarnate Words without spreading ourselves too thin for the SEC slate.

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The only indicator I can think of as to whether that would happen is to look at TCU's nonconference schedule the last few years.

In 2021, the played pre-conference weekend series (I'll exclude the one they played in the middle of the season due to the fact that the Big XII only has 9 baseball playing members, and non-conference tournaments) at home against Liberty and Gonzaga, and on the road against ULL.

In 2020, they played at home against Kentucky, on the road against Minnesota, and at home against Cal.

In 2019, they played at home against Grand Canyon, on the road at Long Beach, and at home against Eastern Michigan.

In 2018, they played home series against Long Bech, UC Irvine, and Minnesota.

In 2017, they played at home against Penn State and Arizona State, then on the road at UC Irvine (and snuck in a Tuesday game against Long Beach as part of the same trip).

So, if I had to guess, I'd say that Schloss is likely to improve the schedule a bit over time.

Lame.

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In 2021, the played pre-conference weekend series (I'll exclude the one they played in the middle of the season due to the fact that the Big XII only has 9 baseball playing members, and non-conference tournaments) at home against Liberty and Gonzaga, and on the road against ULL.

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They also played at two tournaments last year--and at the Arlington tournament, they played Arkansas, Ole Miss, and Miss State.

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In 2021, the played pre-conference weekend series (I'll exclude the one they played in the middle of the season due to the fact that the Big XII only has 9 baseball playing members, and non-conference tournaments) at home against Liberty and Gonzaga, and on the road against ULL.

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They also played at two tournaments last year--and at the Arlington tournament, they played Arkansas, Ole Miss, and Miss State.

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I excluded tournaments because you don't have complete control over who is in the tournament field.

This and Notre Dame cancelling a three game series with William & Mary.

RPI is not good for college baseball and the committee placing much weight on it is a bad practice,

twk said:

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JLammers said:

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Any chance that, with the new staff, we might see higher quality OOC matchups?

We wouldn't need to go DBU with it, but I'd be happy to see us lose a couple more midweek games in a season if it meant good baseball games against decent teams.

It's not just a midweek problem... Fordham has been killing our RPI all season.

I feel like it's a losing situation when you find yourself rooting for the cancellation of baseball games in order to preserve RPI. I think there's a little more to it in this situation, but I'm also hoping that the program we end up with after another year or two of Schloss is capable of seeing more of the DBUs and less of the Incarnate Words without spreading ourselves too thin for the SEC slate.

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The only indicator I can think of as to whether that would happen is to look at TCU's nonconference schedule the last few years.

In 2021, the played pre-conference weekend series (I'll exclude the one they played in the middle of the season due to the fact that the Big XII only has 9 baseball playing members, and non-conference tournaments) at home against Liberty and Gonzaga, and on the road against ULL.

In 2020, they played at home against Kentucky, on the road against Minnesota, and at home against Cal.

In 2019, they played at home against Grand Canyon, on the road at Long Beach, and at home against Eastern Michigan.

In 2018, they played home series against Long Bech, UC Irvine, and Minnesota.

In 2017, they played at home against Penn State and Arizona State, then on the road at UC Irvine (and snuck in a Tuesday game against Long Beach as part of the same trip).

So, if I had to guess, I'd say that Schloss is likely to improve the schedule a bit over time.

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I appreciate that.

If the people that pick the hosts etc, are going to place so much emphasis on the RPI then we and others should learn to game it.
Take care of yourself, no-one else will.

dermdoc said:

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RikkiTikkaTagem said:

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A. We absolutely shouldn't play a game that only hurts us. I agree with whatever decision process was used in getting here.

B. It is insanely stupid that in the current system, winning a game can drop your ranking. Something needs to change

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Agree.

And something is wrong when schools like DBU game the schedule to get RPI points.

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If you give them a system to game…

Aggie said:

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I get it .. but we have canceled two games this season for no reason other than " well it doesn't benefit us"


Never in 30+ years of Aggie baseball have I seen one much less two games canceled for no reason

But this day age of me, me, me and transfer portal, and what do I get out of it, where is my ribbon… my son deserves to play 100% of the time…. Can't say it really surprises me

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In this day and age where NCAA selection committees seem to go out of their way to screw over A&M, it would seem prudent to eliminate any ammunition they might be able to use against us.

TXAggie2011 said:

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dermdoc said:

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RikkiTikkaTagem said:

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A. We absolutely shouldn't play a game that only hurts us. I agree with whatever decision process was used in getting here.

B. It is insanely stupid that in the current system, winning a game can drop your ranking. Something needs to change

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Agree.

And something is wrong when schools like DBU game the schedule to get RPI points.

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DBU has played 21 road games and 1 neutral game, which is plenty, but less than a lot of teams out there.

The Longhorns have played, for example, 22 road games and 3 neutral games.

DBU is #3 and Texas is a huge disappointment because DBU has won 14 of their 25 games with top 50 RPIs and Texas is 10-10.

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This can't be right - tu is the best team in the history of college baseball.

well, I give the program some credit for not hiding the reason behind the cancellations

oh, there was also the ghost series at Pepperdine in 1994.

I have a schedule card that has it listed, but it was cancelled after the Ags knew they weren't going to make the SWC tournament

drthoop said:

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If the people that pick the hosts etc, are going to place so much emphasis on the RPI then we and others should learn to game it.
Take care of yourself, no-one else will.

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If we'd won our nonconference games, we would have done well enough. The problem was losing to weak teams, moreso than playing them. If you go back and look at our record during the Childress era, whipping less than impressive non-conference teams never weighted down our RPI.

In the end, scheduling isn't as important as beating whoever is on your schedule.

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This and Notre Dame cancelling a three game series with William & Mary.

RPI is not good for college baseball and the committee placing much weight on it is a bad practice,

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William & Mary isn't that bad and Notre Dame wouldn't, by itself, harm their RPI by winning games at William & Mary.

It sounds like Notre Dame is trying to avoid potential losses and also give their pitching staff a weekend off.