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If you don't have hope, you aren't a baseball fan, at any level. Baseball is a game of hope. You have to believe in the next play, until the season is over. Looking back is worthless on the baseball diamond unless you are specifically hoping to address a problem by doing so, and then moving on.

That there's still plenty of games left this season

Also, 3 games do not define a season. It's different than sports with only a dozen or so games, a year. It's a game of failure, so fail on occasion and succeed more often.

It's been 15 years.

It's a long season. No need To even worry about coaching changes, 16 years, etc, until the year ends.

Positive is Lacy is an all-time great. I still think Roa is still going to be VERY good this year. And Childress may become the number 3 again soon and be fantastic.

That's a great start at least.

this is semi-uncharted territory for the program in the Childress era:

getting swept in a non-conference weekend.

the only other February/early March sweep I can remember was the 2014 disaster at Fresno. The Ags struggled to a 36-26 record that season. Were up and down all year

Plenty of reason for optimism, since one of two things will happen:

1. We move past this weekend, learn from it, make whatever adjustments are needed, and roll on to a great season

Or

2. We don't and Rob will be fired like he should have been last year

I don't hope for 2, but something good comes from either scenario

2017: got swept at home by Kentucky and started 0-5 in SEC play. Made it to Omaha for 5th time in school history

A weekend in March does not define your season

The competition was pretty stout, and the 1st and 3rd games weren't out of reach. I think we hadn't seen anything approaching that level of play coming into this weekend and it we didn't play our best baseball.

I think the offense is a little better than it looked this weekend and the opposition made a lot of great plays, but A&M was exposed by the breaking ball. The outside breaker was a strikeout pitch all night for UCLA, and the offspeed stuff kept batters so off target that they didn't consistently catch up with the sparse fastballs they were given to hit.

I think the team took their struggles at the plate into the field. A few of the guys making errors are certainly capable of making those plays with regularity.

I'm concerned that we were spoiled last year...Doxakis and Lacy as Friday and Saturday guys was a huge luxury. Lacy is still doing his thing, but I haven't seen the spark from the next Doxakis yet. Roa left those homers up, but he still has strikeout stuff. The Sunday spot is still interesting, I'd also think Jozwiak is better suited to bulldogging his way through middle relief where he can either get comfy or pulled and used later if need be. Childress looked like he could be good last year, so we'll see how he moves along. And I thought Weber also looked good. He was a guy I thought might be considered for a starter spot. If he starts midweek, it might be an audition for the weekend.

Buford T. Justice said:

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It's been 15 years.

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Why post this? How is this an answer to your own question? Sounds to me like you had your mind made up before you even started this thread.

aginlakeway said:

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Buford T. Justice said:

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It's been 15 years.

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Why post this? How is this an answer to your own question? Sounds to me like you had your mind made up before you even started this thread.

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He did not get the answers he expected, too many still showing hope rather than total doom and gloom.

Some highly ranked SEC teams also showed some susceptibilities this weekend and Auburn our first league opponent did the previous weekend. Time will tell if these are brief dips in the road. For now I'm going to hope this was a bad weekend from which the team will bounce back although the overall pitching performance this weekend has me concerned even more than the poor results at the plate.

TempleAg97 said:

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It's a long season. No need To even worry about coaching changes, 16 years, etc, until the year ends.

Positive is Lacy is an all-time great. I still think Roa is still going to be VERY good this year. And Childress may become the number 3 again soon and be fantastic.

That's a great start at least.

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This, a million times. It's going to be a long season if we play like we did this last weekend. The decision will be made at the appropriate time--the end of the season. It's fine to speculate about replacements and such if you want, but most of those discussion come down to this: "please tell me we are going to hire someone better." Very little new information is imparted in most of these discussions, and a lot of it seems to be people seeking reassurance that a change will be made, or needing to see other folks agree with them that a change needs to be made. The decision will be made based on results, not Texags arguments. The coach knows that his tenure hangs in the balance.

I feel pretty confident the pitching will get better. We will be better on Sundays, at least, when Childress gets back into the rotation.

As to the hitting, you need a pretty fine microscope to find any positives.If we don't see some improvement once SEC play starts, we won't even make the NCAA tournament this year.

tjholley16 said:

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2017: got swept at home by Kentucky and started 0-5 in SEC play. Made it to Omaha for 6th time in school history

A weekend in March does not define your season

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/College_World_Series#Most_appearances_without_a_CWS_championship

There's no rule or even moral or ethical reason to wait until the end of the season to start advocating for a coaching change

It may be too early now, because things could improve

But the notion people have to wait until late May to advocate for a coaching change is silly

We'll know soon enough

twk said:

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TempleAg97 said:

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It's a long season. No need To even worry about coaching changes, 16 years, etc, until the year ends.

Positive is Lacy is an all-time great. I still think Roa is still going to be VERY good this year. And Childress may become the number 3 again soon and be fantastic.

That's a great start at least.

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This, a million times. It's going to be a long season if we play like we did this last weekend. The decision will be made at the appropriate time--the end of the season. It's fine to speculate about replacements and such if you want, but most of those discussion come down to this: "please tell me we are going to hire someone better." Very little new information is imparted in most of these discussions, and a lot of it seems to be people seeking reassurance that a change will be made, or needing to see other folks agree with them that a change needs to be made. The decision will be made based on results, not Texags arguments. The coach knows that his tenure hangs in the balance.

I feel pretty confident the pitching will get better. We will be better on Sundays, at least, when Childress gets back into the rotation.

As to the hitting, you need a pretty fine microscope to find any positives.If we don't see some improvement once SEC play starts, we won't even make the NCAA tournament this year.

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Agree completely. To me the aberration this weekend was the pitching let down except for Asa and Cornelas.

Captain Pablo said:

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There's no rule or even moral or ethical reason to wait until the end of the season to start advocating for a coaching change

It may be too early now, because things could improve

But the notion people have to wait until late May to advocate for a coaching change is silly

We'll know soon enough

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Advocate? Sure... Flooding game threads to say such? Not really the place to do it, but I guess it gets people attention they desire. Thankfully it hasn't happened much this season, which is why I'm not really against it. Threads like this are fair game.

Just when I thought I was out, TexAgs pulls me back in. I actually came here figuring all i would hear was doom and firing. I'm glad it's not. Baseball is such a long season - even just in college. Lots can happen.

I'm just glad to have Aggie sports to root for. Basketball is almost done and when baseball is over, it's months of nothing.

Aggies2009 said:

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Captain Pablo said:

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There's no rule or even moral or ethical reason to wait until the end of the season to start advocating for a coaching change

It may be too early now, because things could improve

But the notion people have to wait until late May to advocate for a coaching change is silly

We'll know soon enough

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Advocate? Sure... Flooding game threads to say such? Not really the place to do it, but I guess it gets people attention they desire. Thankfully it hasn't happened much this season, which is why I'm not really against it. Threads like this are fair game.

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Kinda. I know folks need to vent. I just question the efficacy of "advocating" (normally just *****ing) on a message board. There's one guy here who MIGHT have some sway and he's still enjoying the season. Everyone else is just a fan. You want to advocate? Write a check. Until then, ***** where you want but don't be surprised when people who are tired of listening to it ***** back.

Aggieangler93 said:

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If you don't have hope, you aren't a baseball fan, at any level. Baseball is a game of hope. You have to believe in the next play, until the season is over. Looking back is worthless on the baseball diamond unless you are specifically hoping to address a problem by doing so, and then moving on.

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I hope we make a change at the end of the season. I hope this addresses the problem.

CapCityAg89 said:

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Aggies2009 said:

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Captain Pablo said:

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There's no rule or even moral or ethical reason to wait until the end of the season to start advocating for a coaching change

It may be too early now, because things could improve

But the notion people have to wait until late May to advocate for a coaching change is silly

We'll know soon enough

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Advocate? Sure... Flooding game threads to say such? Not really the place to do it, but I guess it gets people attention they desire. Thankfully it hasn't happened much this season, which is why I'm not really against it. Threads like this are fair game.

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Kinda. I know folks need to vent. I just question the efficacy of "advocating" (normally just *****ing) on a message board. There's one guy here who MIGHT have some sway and he's still enjoying the season. Everyone else is just a fan. You want to advocate? Write a check. Until then, ***** where you want but don't be surprised when people who are tired of listening to it ***** back.

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That's the beauty of a message board .... you can express your opinion for free. If you don't like it, don't read it

Or, as you said, offer up a counter point

I do think attacking other posters should result in an immediate ban, regardless of which side the attack is coming from

In any event, like I said, we'll know soon enough

I do think it's too early to call this season a failure

I do not think it's too early to call Childress's coaching tenure here a failure, depending on how you define that. Or a success, depending how you define that

Those positions have been staked out by various posters for years and aren't gonna change unless Childress's program breaks one way or the other decisively

Until then, feel free to express your opinion and we'll
Express ours

Baseball is about optimism. I am pretty sure I know what we are going to get this year, but I am hopeful the team can turn it on and make a run.

What I don't understand is the complete meltdowns when things are basically the same as they have been the last 15 years.

powerbelly said:

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Baseball is about optimism. I am pretty sure I know what we are going to get this year, but I am hopeful the team can turn it on and make a run.

What I don't understand is the complete meltdowns when things are basically the same as they have been the last 15 years.

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You mean making the postseason 13 straight seasons, never going 2 and out, advancing to the Supers about half the time and four Top 10 finishes. That ain't bad, not elite but certainly not the awful one would think if one would read only the doom and gloom post.

Captain Pablo said:

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CapCityAg89 said:

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Aggies2009 said:

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Captain Pablo said:

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There's no rule or even moral or ethical reason to wait until the end of the season to start advocating for a coaching change

It may be too early now, because things could improve

But the notion people have to wait until late May to advocate for a coaching change is silly

We'll know soon enough

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Advocate? Sure... Flooding game threads to say such? Not really the place to do it, but I guess it gets people attention they desire. Thankfully it hasn't happened much this season, which is why I'm not really against it. Threads like this are fair game.

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Kinda. I know folks need to vent. I just question the efficacy of "advocating" (normally just *****ing) on a message board. There's one guy here who MIGHT have some sway and he's still enjoying the season. Everyone else is just a fan. You want to advocate? Write a check. Until then, ***** where you want but don't be surprised when people who are tired of listening to it ***** back.

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That's the beauty of a message board .... you can express your opinion for free. If you don't like it, don't read it

Or, as you said, offer up a counter point

I do think attacking other posters should result in an immediate ban, regardless of which side the attack is coming from

In any event, like I said, we'll know soon enough

I do think it's too early to call this season a failure

I do not think it's too early to call Childress's coaching tenure here a failure, depending on how you define that. Or a success, depending how you define that

Those positions have been staked out by various posters for years and aren't gonna change unless Childress's program breaks one way or the other decisively

Until then, feel free to express your opinion and we'll
Express ours

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Sorta. Staff has said that flooding a game thread with "hyper negativity" on this forum isn't allowed. So yeah, the beauty of a message board is that you can express your opinion for free....... within the rules of that message board. As I said, express away where it's intended to be discussed (threads like this)- I'm not really interested in debating coaching replacements until after the season. Maybe then I'll join in, though I don't really see the point.

jkag89 said:

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powerbelly said:

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Baseball is about optimism. I am pretty sure I know what we are going to get this year, but I am hopeful the team can turn it on and make a run.

What I don't understand is the complete meltdowns when things are basically the same as they have been the last 15 years.

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You mean making the postseason 13 straight seasons, never going 2 and out, advancing to the Supers about half the time and four Top 10 finishes. That ain't bad, not elite but certainly not the awful one would think if one would read only the doom and gloom post.

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Not bad, not elite. That is exactly my point. Rob keeps the program in the top 20 almost every year. Never competing in Omaha, but never awful either.

jkag89 said:

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powerbelly said:

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Baseball is about optimism. I am pretty sure I know what we are going to get this year, but I am hopeful the team can turn it on and make a run.

What I don't understand is the complete meltdowns when things are basically the same as they have been the last 15 years.

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You mean making the postseason 13 straight seasons, never going 2 and out, advancing to the Supers about half the time and four Top 10 finishes. That ain't bad, not elite but certainly not the awful one would think if one would read only the doom and gloom post.

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Blah blah, regional sports, resources, talent hotbed (lol), 0 wins in Omaha

No point in having these discussion, brother. It's the same thing from both sides every time. Right now, just enjoy the season! It'll be over in a few months and we'll all be counting down the days til the first game again.

powerbelly said:

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jkag89 said:

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powerbelly said:

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Baseball is about optimism. I am pretty sure I know what we are going to get this year, but I am hopeful the team can turn it on and make a run.

What I don't understand is the complete meltdowns when things are basically the same as they have been the last 15 years.

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You mean making the postseason 13 straight seasons, never going 2 and out, advancing to the Supers about half the time and four Top 10 finishes. That ain't bad, not elite but certainly not the awful one would think if one would read only the doom and gloom post.

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Not bad, not elite. That is exactly my point. Rob keeps the program in the top 20 almost every year. Never competing in Omaha, but never awful either.

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Ok, fair enough. As I've stated several times already this season, i understand why many want a change. I don't understand that baseball season seemingly not starting for some until there is something to weep, wail or gnash their teeth about.

jkag89 said:

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powerbelly said:

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jkag89 said:

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powerbelly said:

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Baseball is about optimism. I am pretty sure I know what we are going to get this year, but I am hopeful the team can turn it on and make a run.

What I don't understand is the complete meltdowns when things are basically the same as they have been the last 15 years.

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You mean making the postseason 13 straight seasons, never going 2 and out, advancing to the Supers about half the time and four Top 10 finishes. That ain't bad, not elite but certainly not the awful one would think if one would read only the doom and gloom post.

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Not bad, not elite. That is exactly my point. Rob keeps the program in the top 20 almost every year. Never competing in Omaha, but never awful either.

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Ok, fair enough. As I've stated several times already this season, i understand why many want a change. I don't understand that baseball season seemingly not starting for some until there is something to weep, wail or gnash their teeth about.

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That's my biggest thing.

I may disagree with Captain Pablo sometimes, but I know he's here, he's been here, and he will be here, win or lose. A true fan. The people who show up at the first loss to wail are just annoying. Wanna take a guess on the date of OP's first post on the Baseball Forum this season?

There are people that watch all the games that don't necessarily post all the time.

I think a much worse thing than passionate folks who want to see us win and win now would be apathy. If the team craters this year, you may see it. We pretty much have had it in basketball although I believe Buzz is and will turn it around.

Cy_Tolliver said:

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There are people that watch all the games that don't necessarily post all the time.

I think a much worse thing than passionate folks who want to see us win and win now would be apathy. If the team craters this year, you may see it. We pretty much have had it in basketball although I believe Buzz is and will turn it around.

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It's super strange how they manage to show up only when they have reason to complain- it gives the notion that they use this forum to vent. Not really what people who are trying to enjoy the season want to see, ya know?

The second paragraph assumes quite a few things- that only people who come here to complain loudly are "passionate about winning", that they're the ones who mainly buy tickets and go to games, and that they'll stop. If a chunk of season ticket holders become apathetic and pull out, there's a pretty big wait list of people ready to buy them.

I completely understand the fire Childress crowd and the viewpoint of the non fire crowd. I just hate when I can't get through a game thread or any thread without multiple posts to get rid of someone when there is NO WAY without a MAJOR ISSUE arising that will change anything this season. If you could have a positive discussion about lineups pitching defense etc without being cluttered with get rid of him, x years is enough rants it would make for a better season of Aggie baseball regardless of the effort on the field of play because change ain't happening until at least June

Aggies2009 said:

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Cy_Tolliver said:

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There are people that watch all the games that don't necessarily post all the time.

I think a much worse thing than passionate folks who want to see us win and win now would be apathy. If the team craters this year, you may see it. We pretty much have had it in basketball although I believe Buzz is and will turn it around.

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It's super strange how they manage to show up only when they have reason to complain- it gives the notion that they use this forum to vent. Not really what people who are trying to enjoy the season want to see, ya know?

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You could also just ignore it, ya know?

powerbelly said:

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Aggies2009 said:

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Cy_Tolliver said:

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There are people that watch all the games that don't necessarily post all the time.

I think a much worse thing than passionate folks who want to see us win and win now would be apathy. If the team craters this year, you may see it. We pretty much have had it in basketball although I believe Buzz is and will turn it around.

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It's super strange how they manage to show up only when they have reason to complain- it gives the notion that they use this forum to vent. Not really what people who are trying to enjoy the season want to see, ya know?

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You could also just ignore it, ya know?

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I could and probably should, you're right. I'll let staff handle it, as they said they will.

Optimism you say? Is that even in the Aggie vernacular? After 25 years of Tom Chandler, 20 years of Mark Johnson, and now 15 years of Rob Childress (60 years total) how can you have any of that. You just sit and wait until a coach is hired that actually does what he was hired to do!