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And you're smart enough to know they'll screw you every time.dermdoc said:
And if I am going to debate a lawyer somebody is going to have to pay me for my time. Been there, done that.
But and SEC West team still did it and everything is going to be OK, right?+ 1 more quotes (click to expand)TXAggie2011 said:The other side of that being an SEC West team scheduled a weekend series with Texas.....dermdoc said:And at the end of the season I predict the only thing that will separate LSU and us is head to head and how many SEC games we won. We win more SEC games and win the series against LSU we will be seeded higher than them even if they did play the sips.
South Carolina had a better SEC record than Florida in 2016, albeit they split a 2 game series (3rd game cancelled to weather) and Florida got the #1 overall seed and South Carolina didn't get a national seed at all.
The only change I would make is adding one more home and home midweek series. Possibly Baylor or TCU.
Or do a Tuesday-Wednesday midweek series with Texas... like Arkansas did. One in Austin, and then the next night in CS. Or vice versa
Or do a Tuesday-Wednesday midweek series with Texas... like Arkansas did. One in Austin, and then the next night in CS. Or vice versa
I think the Clemson-South Carolina/Florida-Florida State model could be good fun. Home-home-neutral.tjholley16 said:
The only change I would make is adding one more home and home midweek series. Possibly Baylor or TCU.
Or do a Tuesday-Wednesday midweek series with Texas... like Arkansas did. One in Austin, and then the next night in CS. Or vice versa
I'll never understand why people want to get back in bed with the sips.
Tom Hooper '82,'84,'86---- College Station, Texas
That's fine because no one wants to get in bed with the sips.drthoop said:
I'll never understand why people want to get back in bed with the sips.
because I enjoy sell out crowds on weekday games and that game brings out the best atmosphere we've had at olsen outside of postseason.drthoop said:
I'll never understand why people want to get back in bed with the sips.
Because they never dealt with them and have limited historical experiences. Also they get tired of their sip and Big 12 friends messing with them and they think they need to prove something when we don't.drthoop said:
I'll never understand why people want to get back in bed with the sips.
I think most reasonably minded Ags don't mind a game here and there in all sports (baseball, basketball, soccer, etc.) but we SHOULD NOT be scheduling them for football for the foreseeable future...
So you are in favor of increasing our OOC SOS which can only be done by playing more games on the road, correct? Because any Power Five is going to want a home and home, correct? Or the other way is to play more midweeks on the road. Cool, let the season ticket holders vote on it. I will be happy to honor their wishes.drthoop said:
I'll never understand why people want to get back in bed with the sips.TXAggie2011 said:That's fine because no one wants to get in bed with the sips.
I'm not sure what you are saying about last year. We didn't host because of our conference record, not our non conference schedule. Or are you saying our SOS was the only reason we were close to that last year. Great! So our non-conference schedule wasn't a issue. We have about the same one this year so it shouldn't be an issue this year either. So, why are we arguing about this now?TXAggie2011 said:
We ended up with the #15 SoS and #15 RPI on selection day last year which is how we ended up squarely on the regional host bubble.
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In 2017, we ended up with the #63 SoS on selection day which is how a 16-14 SEC team ended up with the #46 RPI and squarely on the tournament bubble.
We lost 6 non-conference games. We lost to almost all of the good nonconference teams we played.
L TCU
L Baylor
L Texas
L Sam Houston St
The only decent nonconference game we won that year was tech. Not to mention we also had some losses to Pepperdine and UTA sprinkled in. Our problem was not WINNING the nonconference games on our schedule.
Our SOS was a concern so they picked TCU, who had a worse SOS than us (and won less games)? That doesn't make sense. We finished fourth in our conference and they would rather give a national seed to a TCU team that won their conference than to a fourth SEC team.Quote:
In 2015, we had the #58 SoS on selection day which is a big piece of how we ended up on the super regional host bubble.
Another blue star.nereus said:I'm not sure what you are saying about last year. We didn't host because of our conference record, not our non conference schedule. Or are you saying our SOS was the only reason we were close to that last year. Great! So our non-conference schedule wasn't a issue. We have about the same one this year so it shouldn't be an issue this year either. So, why are we arguing about this now?TXAggie2011 said:
We ended up with the #15 SoS and #15 RPI on selection day last year which is how we ended up squarely on the regional host bubble.Quote:
In 2017, we ended up with the #63 SoS on selection day which is how a 16-14 SEC team ended up with the #46 RPI and squarely on the tournament bubble.
We lost 6 non-conference games. We lost to almost all of the good nonconference teams we played.
L TCU
L Baylor
L Texas
L Sam Houston St
The only decent nonconference game we won that year was tech. Not to mention we also had some losses to Pepperdine and UTA sprinkled in. Our problem was not WINNING the nonconference games on our schedule.Our SOS was a concern so they picked TCU, who had a worse SOS than us (and won less games)? That doesn't make sense. We finished fourth in our conference and they would rather give a national seed to a TCU team that won their conference than to a fourth SEC team.Quote:
In 2015, we had the #58 SoS on selection day which is a big piece of how we ended up on the super regional host bubble.
dermdoc said:
And you are entitled to your opinion. As a season ticket holder I disagree as do most of the season ticket holders I know. I firmly believe if the majority agreed with you the scheduling would be more like you are suggesting.
Look at butts in seats for UIC and compare that to when we play Arkansas or Ole Miss and you can't convince me that "most fans" don't have a strong preference for higher quality opponents. And don't pretend the AD gives 2 ****s about our fans preference.
They had the broadcast rights to that game, since it was their home game. I guess if it would have stayed as a Tier 3 event, it could have been on LHN. Moving it to FS1 tells me it wasn't Tier 3, and maybe they got some money for that. However, as the rights holder, they are under no obligation to split that with us.+ 3 more quotes (click to expand)Anonymous Source said:I'm curious about the bolded part. What is it that you're hoping to see?dermdoc said:What the terms were. Because they have not been equal sometimes in the past. Sometimes I wish I was young and naive.
Gig 'Em
6 non-conference losses doomed us? 3 of the top 11 RPIs on selection day had at least 7 non-conference losses. 12 of the 45 teams in front of us had at least 10 non-conference losses.Quote:
We lost 6 non-conference games. We lost to almost all of the good nonconference teams we played.
L TCU
L Baylor
L Texas
L Sam Houston St
The only decent nonconference game we won that year was tech. Not to mention we also had some losses to Pepperdine and UTA sprinkled in. Our problem was not WINNING the nonconference games on our schedule.
Right, but didn't you just argue that our nonconference schedule was crappy that year. So we lost 6 nonconference games against a crappy nonconference schedule that year. If we schedule better, wouldn't there be a good chance we would have lost more that year.Quote:
We lost 6 non-conference games. We lost to almost all of the good nonconference teams we played.
L TCU
L Baylor
L Texas
L Sam Houston St
The only decent nonconference game we won that year was tech. Not to mention we also had some losses to Pepperdine and UTA sprinkled in. Our problem was not WINNING the nonconference games on our schedule.TXAggie2011 said:6 non-conference losses doomed us? 3 of the top 11 RPIs on selection day had at least 7 non-conference losses. 12 of the 45 teams in front of us had at least 10 non-conference losses.
Our schedule is currently fine. It is also fine if we change it to what you are proposing. You can have an opinion, but at the end of the day just let RC chose the schedule he wants. The scheduling isn't our problem. JUST WIN GAMES!
dermdoc said:
And you are entitled to your opinion. As a season ticket holder I disagree as do most of the season ticket holders I know. I firmly believe if the majority agreed with you the scheduling would be more like you are suggesting.Goose06 said:
Look at butts in seats for UIC and compare that to when we play Arkansas or Ole Miss and you can't convince me that "most fans" don't have a strong preference for higher quality opponents. And don't pretend the AD gives 2 ****s about our fans preference.
I know the AD. He cares a lot about the fans preferences. A whole lot. And he had nothing to do with Levy. And Arky and Ole Miss are teams we play every year in the SEC and have nothing to do with OOC scheduling which is the argument here. Basically are more season ticket holders willing to give up a home series every other year to play "better" opponents? I think the majority would prefer more home games but am willing to bow to the majority.
We might have. The idea is losing a few more games against a tougher schedule isn't necessarily a bad thing.+ 1 more quotes (click to expand)TXAggie2011 said:6 non-conference losses doomed us? 3 of the top 11 RPIs on selection day had at least 7 non-conference losses. 12 of the 45 teams in front of us had at least 10 non-conference losses.nereus said:Right, but didn't you just argue that our nonconference schedule was crappy that year. So we lost 6 nonconference games against a crappy nonconference schedule that year. If we schedule better, wouldn't there be a good chance we would have lost more that year.
Florida had 6 non-conference losses, same as us, and got the #3 national seed. Long Beach State lost 13 and hosted a regional.
How'd 25-0 work out for us?
There's a bunch of trade-offs to be made.
Look, all of this arguing and stuff can be avoided if we all just remember 1 simple thing....
9-6
Enjoy your day.
9-6
Enjoy your day.
Not to derail our totally productive conversation about scheduling.... but I wish the game last night was on LHN. Would have been fun to ruin that party.
Wonder what they are going to show on their channel today instead of our game replay?
Wonder what they are going to show on their channel today instead of our game replay?
Had it been on LHN, only 8 people worldwide would have been able to watch it.
Sinuso said:
Had it been on LHN, only 8 people worldwide would have been able to watch it.
I can guess Ketch being one of them... who are the other 4?
True. Wish it had been double broadcast on FS1 and LHN. I'd love to watch their commentators get butt hurt and make up excuses.Sinuso said:
Had it been on LHN, only 8 people worldwide would have been able to watch it.
tjholley16 said:
The only change I would make is adding one more home and home midweek series. Possibly Baylor or TCU.
Or do a Tuesday-Wednesday midweek series with Texas... like Arkansas did. One in Austin, and then the next night in CS. Or vice versaTXAggie2011 said:I think the Clemson-South Carolina/Florida-Florida State model could be good fun. Home-home-neutral.
So do Rice and UH. I'm fine with that. But if everyone is obsessed with doing it with a Texas BDF team, do TCU.
My only question is where would you do the neutral site game? Rice/UH do Sugar Land which makes sense since it's 30 mins away.. But I don't know where besides Minute Maid you would do it if we played the sips. You'd also have issues with an MLB stadium if it's during their season because I'm sure they don't want it to be used in late march-early May.
I would say Frisco Round Rock Sugarland and Whaterburger Field in CC would all be solid venues to play a game in against them.
I love the idea of a home and home each season. Two games. If you win both in a given year you win the "Cup" and like the Ryder Cup you keep it until you lose it by being swept the next year.
If you do a home and home and then a third at neutral site whoever wins the series
I love the idea of a home and home each season. Two games. If you win both in a given year you win the "Cup" and like the Ryder Cup you keep it until you lose it by being swept the next year.
If you do a home and home and then a third at neutral site whoever wins the series
I say just keep it on campus and play two games. Im not sure how much attendance or tv coverage you would get at a neutral site on a Tuesday evening.Wicked Good Ag said:
I would say Frisco Round Rock Sugarland and Whaterburger Field in CC would all be solid venues to play a game in against them.
I love the idea of a home and home each season. Two games. If you win both in a given year you win the "Cup" and like the Ryder Cup you keep it until you lose it by being swept the next year.
If you do a home and home and then a third at neutral site whoever wins the series
We should argue about this more. It's never been discussed before after all.
What's happening is those that want to forgive and forget are willing to make enemies with those who prefer never to play Texas, Baylor, or Tech again in roughly that order. Just like we didn't end the series, the fact we will stick to our guns on stating a preference is merely taking a political position and following through on it.
I don't hate that we play them. I just strongly prefer we do not and will use any tools in my toolbox including plublucly saying that to get the point across.
The last initial is for Harvey btw. I'm now no longer anonymous even if you haven't seen me reveal that before. I've lived by the courage of my convictions for most of my life. This isn't about that. It's just a judgment of our former conference mates as feckless and untrustworthy based on their actions and an unwillingness to associate with them.
What's happening is those that want to forgive and forget are willing to make enemies with those who prefer never to play Texas, Baylor, or Tech again in roughly that order. Just like we didn't end the series, the fact we will stick to our guns on stating a preference is merely taking a political position and following through on it.
I don't hate that we play them. I just strongly prefer we do not and will use any tools in my toolbox including plublucly saying that to get the point across.
The last initial is for Harvey btw. I'm now no longer anonymous even if you haven't seen me reveal that before. I've lived by the courage of my convictions for most of my life. This isn't about that. It's just a judgment of our former conference mates as feckless and untrustworthy based on their actions and an unwillingness to associate with them.
Sinuso said:
Had it been on LHN, only 8 people worldwide would have been able to watch it.UncoverAg00 said:
I can guess Ketch being one of them... who are the other 4?
Sinuso said:
Had it been on LHN, only 8 people worldwide would have been able to watch it.UncoverAg00 said:
I can guess Ketch being one of them... who are the other 4?
Not sure what is funnier, his little motorcycle hop or ...Wildmen03 said:
Made this for another thread, figured someone here would like it.
the dirty hippies trying to keep the soap bubbles off them lest they lose their patchouli stink
Come 2021 bubble machines will be banned at their park...
Make Mental Asylums Great Again!
What's next??? Outlaw fun?? Or the opponents actually taking the field???West Point Aggie said:
Come 2021 bubble machines will be banned at their park...
West Point Aggie said:
Come 2021 bubble machines will be banned at their park...greg.w.h said:What's next??? Outlaw fun?? Or the opponents actually taking the field???
Nah, the sips will allow bubble machines. They will just outlaw scoring by the opposing team thus eliminating the need to use the bubble machines.
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