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Do you care what the season ticket holders want? I do and I think the majority of them would prefer not losing games at Olsen.
I am a season ticket holder and you already knew that.
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How do you know that the "caustic relationship" was strictly intra conference? You are staying your opinion as fact and unless you have dealt with them I think that is naive. And remember AFTER we left they told the othe Big 12 schools not to schedule us in an attempt to hurt us. And it really is that simple, win in the SEC(and having a 16-14 record is not really winning imho) and you achieve all your objectives. At the end of the year, our rpi will be fine if we win in the SEC.
What do you know of my dealings with UT-Austin?

And what is "winning in the SEC?" 16 in 2017 wasn't "winning."

Would 17 have been "winning"? Mississippi State won 17 in 2017 and didn't host a regional.
18? Arkansas won 18 games in 2017 and didn't get a Super Regional.
19? Kentucky won 19 games in 2017 and didn't get a Super Regional.
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Derm rarely makes sense but he sure does on this one.

And if we want to replace UIC with a top-75 RPI opponent, that's fine, but nothing says it has to be a cancer that rots everything it touches that we moved to a new conference to be free of. I also fully expect that many who demand better non-con schedules to go along with the treacherous SEC schedule would be demanding Rob's firing for losing a few more games against it. (Less so among this board, but among the general A&M fan populace ... woof.)
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dermdoc said:

TXAggie2011 said:

AggieBand2004 said:

Being a fan shouldn't stop someone from having the awareness to put aside their selfish desires and instead want what is best for A&M.
And what's best for A&M is to stay away from caustic business relationships, even in sports.


No caustic business happened last night, last year, and however many years we've played them in non-conference.
Unless I see the Tv contract from FS1 I can not say that, however, I feel pretty confident our new AD will not give the sips an inch.

And edited to add that I am not against playing a better OOC schedule. But I am in favor of not losing a home series at Olsen every other year when we really do not need to do that if we win in the SEC. Whatever the season ticket holders want to do is fine by me.
I'm curious about the bolded part. What is it that you're hoping to see?
Gig 'Em
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These three games upcoming against LSU will be better baseball, with higher stakes, on a bigger stage, and with just as much passion, just like they are every year. This discussion is like being given a Lambo and wistfully longing for your old Camry. In this sport more than any, probably even more than football, if you don't appreciate playing the LSUs and Ole Misses and Auburns and Vanderbilts, and hating them a little bit too, and also understanding our season will be measured by what we do against them and not a couple OOC series, I don't know what you're here for.

Texas deserves the same attention we give SFA. One game a year for jollies.
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Beau Holder said:

These three games upcoming against LSU will be better baseball, with higher stakes, on a bigger stage, and with just as much passion, just like they are every year. This discussion is like being given a Lambo and wistfully longing for your old Camry. In this sport more than any, probably even more than football, if you don't appreciate playing the LSUs and Ole Misses and Auburns and Vanderbilts, and hating them a little bit too, and also understanding our season will be measured by what we do against them and not a couple OOC series, I don't know what you're here for.

Texas deserves the same attention we give SFA. One game a year for jollies.
Don't stop him, he's on a roll.
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West Texan said:



Uncoordinated loser
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TXAggie2011 said:

so basically you're paranoid

Those who don't learn from history...
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Uppercut, appreciate your great work on this board. I'll gladly expand on my comments about the bullpen.

Childress pulled Saenz after the 6th who seemed to be in complete control. Saenz had thrown only 80 pitches and was facing 6-7-8-9 in the bottom of the 7th, who collectively had gone 0-7 with only a walk between them. So that's a head scratcher to me considering that he threw more pitches (88) in a start against SFA earlier this year and was fully rested. Why wouldn't you give him the hill to at least start the 7th?

Obviously it wasn't Jozwiak's night. But he threw 80 pitches in 5.2 innings of relief on Saturday while taking the loss. There had to be better options with fresh arms. And if you go back and look at Saenz's previous long outing (against SFA 88 pitches), you see that Joz was brought in to relief and had a miserable outing (again didn't finish the inning). So maybe there is something there that Childress needs to consider.

All props to the team for getting it done tonight!
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A Net Full of Jello said:

TXAggie2011 said:

so basically you're paranoid

Those who don't learn from history...
No one is advocating going back to the Big 12.

And, Beau, no one is saying "LSU, Arkansas, Ole Miss, Florida, and Vanderbilt are 'meh', so lets play more exciting non-conference opponents."
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...First, Childress pulled Saenz after the 6th who seemed to be in complete control. Saenz had thrown only 80 pitches and was facing 6-7-8-9 in the bottom of the 7th, who collectively had gone 0-7 with only a walk between them. So that's a head scratcher to me considering that he threw more pitches (88) in a start against SFA earlier this year and was fully rested.

Childress gave the answer to this in the post-game presser. He pulled Saenz because he wanted him to go out while he was doing well to boost his confidence essentially. Go out on top so to speak, without risking over-doing it with him.
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TXAggie2011 said:




RPIs are facts and as has been covered way too many times on this board, A&M could usually use some nonconnference RPI help.

You want to host a super regional this year? Yeah, me too.

All but one of the 9 teams in front of us in the RPI has a non conference SoS at least 26 places better than us.

All but one of the 9 teams in front of us in the RPI has a non conference RPI at least 18 places better than us.
Overall SOS is what is important as well as overall RPI. We play a VERY back loaded schedule. We don't play a team lower than 76 the rest of the season and only a handful of games are against teams with RPIs currently over 50. The schools in other conference have more balanced or front loaded schedules. We will close the overall SOS gap with most of those schools.

Every year our schedule gives us the opportunity to host regional and super regional rounds (and even be the overall #1 seed) if we take care of business. Our overall SOS was 13th last year. Right now our overall SOS is 23rd and it is only going to go up with our remaining schedule. You can obviously prefer a different scheduling method (trade home games for better opponents) and I don't think there is anything wrong with that method either. We won't all agree and can have our own preferences. But either method has the ability to get us where we want to go as a team. If we don't host a super or host a regional, it won't be because of our scheduling.
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Tamu_mgm said:


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...First, Childress pulled Saenz after the 6th who seemed to be in complete control. Saenz had thrown only 80 pitches and was facing 6-7-8-9 in the bottom of the 7th, who collectively had gone 0-7 with only a walk between them. So that's a head scratcher to me considering that he threw more pitches (88) in a start against SFA earlier this year and was fully rested.

Childress gave the answer to this in the post-game presser. He pulled Saenz because he wanted him to go out while he was doing well to boost his confidence essentially. Go out on top so to speak, without risking over-doing it with him.
That's sensible. Bringing in Joz on two days rest after throwing 80 pitches, not so much.
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Stagecoach said:

Tamu_mgm said:


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...First, Childress pulled Saenz after the 6th who seemed to be in complete control. Saenz had thrown only 80 pitches and was facing 6-7-8-9 in the bottom of the 7th, who collectively had gone 0-7 with only a walk between them. So that's a head scratcher to me considering that he threw more pitches (88) in a start against SFA earlier this year and was fully rested.

Childress gave the answer to this in the post-game presser. He pulled Saenz because he wanted him to go out while he was doing well to boost his confidence essentially. Go out on top so to speak, without risking over-doing it with him.
That's sensible. Bringing in Joz on two days rest after throwing 80 pitches, not so much.
I think it would have been his day to throw a bullpen session, so the thinking was, throw against live action rather than just in the pen. Obviously, it didn't work out, but that's also why you saw front-line guys like Miller and Kalich in the late innings--they were going to throw somewhere.
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And you are entitled to your opinion. As a season ticket holder I disagree as do most of the season ticket holders I know. I firmly believe if the majority agreed with you the scheduling would be more like you are suggesting.
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TXAggie2011 said:

A Net Full of Jello said:

TXAggie2011 said:

so basically you're paranoid

Those who don't learn from history...
No one is advocating going back to the Big 12.

And, Beau, no one is saying "LSU, Arkansas, Ole Miss, Florida, and Vanderbilt are 'meh', so lets play more exciting non-conference opponents."

That's a straw man of what I said, although I'll concede it could've read that way. What I mean is, we have a clear path every year to a national seed through winning the SEC. Almost every weekend is high-stakes and high-reward, and highly engaging, and a dogfight. I'm fine with scheduling one more good OOC opponent. I'm speaking to the people who want it to be Texas, Tech, or Baylor. It's regressive thinking. We just watched the umps conspicuously shrink our strike zone in the late innings yet again. Does anyone think that was a coincidence? Did we enjoy listening to sip homers on a Fox channel, which is marginally better than it being on the LHN? One game is fine. Any more does nothing for us and I genuinely have no desire for more. Don't miss it a bit.
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Great win whether we should consider them rivals or not. We should be very excited for the team. Similar to the Vanderbilt series win in quality especially for a midweek and especially a true away game.
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TXAggie2011 said:

so basically you're paranoid


Do you even know what paranoia means??

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Texas 1836 said:

TXAggie2011 said:

so basically you're paranoid
Do you even know what paranoia means??
Admitting something hasn't happened (which the poster did in the previous post) but nevertheless being deeply afraid of it fits well within the definition "paranoia."
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Made this for another thread, figured someone here would like it.


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nereus said:

TXAggie2011 said:




RPIs are facts and as has been covered way too many times on this board, A&M could usually use some nonconnference RPI help.

You want to host a super regional this year? Yeah, me too.

All but one of the 9 teams in front of us in the RPI has a non conference SoS at least 26 places better than us.

All but one of the 9 teams in front of us in the RPI has a non conference RPI at least 18 places better than us.
Overall SOS is what is important as well as overall RPI. We play a VERY back loaded schedule. We don't play a team lower than 76 the rest of the season and only a handful of games are against teams with RPIs currently over 50. The schools in other conference have more balanced or front loaded schedules. We will close the overall SOS gap with most of those schools.

Every year our schedule gives us the opportunity to host regional and super regional rounds (and even be the overall #1 seed) if we take care of business. Our overall SOS was 13th last year. Right now our overall SOS is 23rd and it is only going to go up with our remaining schedule. You can obviously prefer a different scheduling method (trade home games for better opponents) and I don't think there is anything wrong with that method either. We won't all agree and can have our own preferences. But either method has the ability to get us where we want to go as a team. If we don't host a super or host a regional, it won't be because of our scheduling.
We ended up with the #15 SoS and #15 RPI on selection day last year which is how we ended up squarely on the regional host bubble.

In 2017, we ended up with the #63 SoS on selection day which is how a 16-14 SEC team ended up with the #46 RPI and squarely on the tournament bubble.

In 2015, we had the #58 SoS on selection day which is a big piece of how we ended up on the super regional host bubble.


No one is saying blow it all up, the situation is dire...but there is a pattern and with some (modest) adjustments, A&M could address one piece of the puzzle. (Of course the schedule is just one piece...but its certainly a piece.)
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nereus said:

TXAggie2011 said:




RPIs are facts and as has been covered way too many times on this board, A&M could usually use some nonconnference RPI help.

You want to host a super regional this year? Yeah, me too.

All but one of the 9 teams in front of us in the RPI has a non conference SoS at least 26 places better than us.

All but one of the 9 teams in front of us in the RPI has a non conference RPI at least 18 places better than us.
Overall SOS is what is important as well as overall RPI. We play a VERY back loaded schedule. We don't play a team lower than 76 the rest of the season and only a handful of games are against teams with RPIs currently over 50. The schools in other conference have more balanced or front loaded schedules. We will close the overall SOS gap with most of those schools.

Every year our schedule gives us the opportunity to host regional and super regional rounds (and even be the overall #1 seed) if we take care of business. Our overall SOS was 13th last year. Right now our overall SOS is 23rd and it is only going to go up with our remaining schedule. You can obviously prefer a different scheduling method (trade home games for better opponents) and I don't think there is anything wrong with that method either. We won't all agree and can have our own preferences. But either method has the ability to get us where we want to go as a team. If we don't host a super or host a regional, it won't be because of our scheduling.
Blue star. And I find it interesting that one of the reasons Texas SOS is so high now is because they scheduled LSU who we play every year. This just reinforces that teams in the Big 12 have to do that, SEC teams do not.
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TXAggie2011 said:

Texas 1836 said:

TXAggie2011 said:

so basically you're paranoid
Do you even know what paranoia means??
Admitting something hasn't happened (which the poster did in the previous post) but nevertheless being deeply afraid of it fits well within the definition "paranoia."
So how do you know it hasn't happened? Because it has. What experience do you have dealing with the sips? It is your opinion only. Everybody is entitled to one.
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And I find it interesting that one of the reasons Texas SOS is so high now is because they scheduled LSU who we play every year. This just reinforces that teams in the Big 12 have to do that, SEC teams do not.
The other side of that being an SEC West team scheduled a weekend series with Texas.....
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Anonymous Source said:

dermdoc said:

TXAggie2011 said:

AggieBand2004 said:

Being a fan shouldn't stop someone from having the awareness to put aside their selfish desires and instead want what is best for A&M.
And what's best for A&M is to stay away from caustic business relationships, even in sports.


No caustic business happened last night, last year, and however many years we've played them in non-conference.
Unless I see the Tv contract from FS1 I can not say that, however, I feel pretty confident our new AD will not give the sips an inch.

And edited to add that I am not against playing a better OOC schedule. But I am in favor of not losing a home series at Olsen every other year when we really do not need to do that if we win in the SEC. Whatever the season ticket holders want to do is fine by me.
I'm curious about the bolded part. What is it that you're hoping to see?

What the terms were. Because they have not been equal sometimes in the past. Sometimes I wish I was young and naive.
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dermdoc said:

TXAggie2011 said:

Texas 1836 said:

TXAggie2011 said:

so basically you're paranoid
Do you even know what paranoia means??
Admitting something hasn't happened (which the poster did in the previous post) but nevertheless being deeply afraid of it fits well within the definition "paranoia."
So how do you know it hasn't happened? Because it has. What experience do you have dealing with the sips? It is your opinion only. Everybody is entitled to one.
Read that one again a little closer. My opinion of the business relationship has nothing to do with this line of posts.
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TXAggie2011 said:

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And I find it interesting that one of the reasons Texas SOS is so high now is because they scheduled LSU who we play every year. This just reinforces that teams in the Big 12 have to do that, SEC teams do not.
The other side of that being an SEC West team scheduled a weekend series with Texas.....
And at the end of the season I predict the only thing that will separate LSU and us is head to head and how many SEC games we won. We win more SEC games and win the series against LSU we will be seeded higher than them even if they did play the sips.

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TXAggie2011 said:

dermdoc said:

TXAggie2011 said:

Texas 1836 said:

TXAggie2011 said:

so basically you're paranoid
Do you even know what paranoia means??
Admitting something hasn't happened (which the poster did in the previous post) but nevertheless being deeply afraid of it fits well within the definition "paranoia."
So how do you know it hasn't happened? Because it has. What experience do you have dealing with the sips? It is your opinion only. Everybody is entitled to one.
Read that one again a little closer. My opinion of the business relationship has nothing to do with this line of posts.
Did you not post that there had been no "caustic" whatever since we started playing them again in baseball? How do you know that for a fact? Are you in on the negotiations?

And you are parsing the hell out of posts, are you a lawyer? Engineer?
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What the terms were. Because they have not been equal sometimes in the past. Sometimes I wish I was young and naive.
Maybe you have evidence to the contrary or I don't understand what you're suggesting may have happened with this game, but I've never heard or seen anything suggesting the TV situation for this game was any different than any other game.

The games in Austin are on TV per the Big 12 TV setup and the games in College Station are on TV per the SEC TV setup.

There is no deal between the schools regarding TV.
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TXAggie2011 said:

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What the terms were. Because they have not been equal sometimes in the past. Sometimes I wish I was young and naive.
Maybe you have evidence to the contrary or I don't understand what you're suggesting may have happened with this game, but I've never heard or seen anything suggesting the TV situation for this game was any different than any other game.

The games in Austin are on TV per the Big 12 TV setup and the games in College Station are on TV per the SEC TV setup.

There is no deal between the schools regarding TV.
Do you know that for a fact?
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The t-sips fanning the bubbles out of their face is hilarious to me.
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Average Joe said:

The t-sips fanning the bubbles out of their face is hilarious to me.
Rather it be LSU.
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dermdoc said:

Average Joe said:

The t-sips fanning the bubbles out of their face is hilarious to me.
Rather it be LSU.
It will be.
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Holy hell, what a thread! Sorry I missed it.

Had a blast at the game last night. Sips were very sad when we were shuffling out
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