Bryce Lindsay could have been a nice piece the last two years. After leaving A&M last year, was the Sunbelt conference 6th man of the year. Shot 40%+ from 3 and averaged 13.4 points a game this past season at James Madison.

Funny, it seems A&M could have used another shooter the last 2 years?? Good thing Buzz buried his a** on the bench his one year here and sent him packing - while giving an outrageous amount of minutes to multiple guys who can't shoot.

He had knee surgery before the season and missed all summer leading up to the season and then suffered another injury so they shut him down.

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He had knee surgery before the season and missed all summer leading up to the season and then suffered another injury so they shut him down.

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Fair enough!

I saw he played in several games for very limited minutes.

He isn't playing against the same level of talent.

We need players. Maybe the next coach can bring him back.

Buzz was never trying to build a long term program.

Mikeyshooter said:

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Buzz was never trying to build a long term program.

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Sure he was. Especially in this era, he can take whatever pieces he wants with him.

He was trying, he just wasnt able to build a team here who could win in the tourney. Pretty simple.

To me he knows that he's limited as a coach and plans on getting out before the powers that be realize it. That was always the plan starting with Marquette to now. All the other preachy stuff is just window dressing to distract and get attention for reasons other than hoops.

I completely disagree.

It's hard to say for sure because he's also just a weird guy, but I think he physically can't handle stagnation. I don't know if he's got some kind of diagnosable disorder, but he obviously has organized his life to such an insane degree that there's little room for variation. (It's also why I think he does a mostly terrible job of handling anything unexpected happening.)

But by giving himself this six year clock he gives himself an excuse to sort of "reset" every six years.

It's why I'm not going to be surprised if the way his team plays at Maryland is nothing like the style he ended up playing with here. I think he got down a path of playing a specific way because of the players we had, and then he recruited even more players like that to fit it, which then made it even harder to play any other way, etc, etc, until we ended up with the worst shooting good team in the history of college basketball.

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He isn't playing against the same level of talent.

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40% from 3 is exactly the type of players we needed the 6 years with Buzz. Instead we play guys who shoot 25% and can't make a freaking free throw.

Mikeyshooter said:

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Buzz was never trying to build a long term program.

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Wild take given all these seniors that just graduated.

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Mikeyshooter said:

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Buzz was never trying to build a long term program.

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Wild take given all these seniors that just graduated.

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It actually makes perfect sense. Giving that % of minutes to seniors (several of of which were mediocre) is not playing the long game at all.

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BuzzFan24 said:

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Mikeyshooter said:

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Buzz was never trying to build a long term program.

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Wild take given all these seniors that just graduated.

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It actually makes perfect sense. Giving that % of minutes to seniors (several of of which were mediocre) is not playing the long game at all.

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With a win now strategy he exited after the round of 32 game…

Mikeyshooter said:

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To me he knows that he's limited as a coach and plans on getting out before the powers that be realize it. That was always the plan starting with Marquette to now. All the other preachy stuff is just window dressing to distract and get attention for reasons other than hoops.

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Yep, YOU CANT FIRE ME! I QUIT ERRRRR I MEAN IM LEAVING!

More damning is the Manny interview where he talked about all the offensive firepower sitting on the bench while we could t make a bucket.

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Mikeyshooter said:

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Buzz was never trying to build a long term program.

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Wild take given all these seniors that just graduated.

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How is it wild when he literally just left? The last few years he rarely played young players to help them develop.

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Mikeyshooter said:

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Buzz was never trying to build a long term program.

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Wild take given all these seniors that just graduated.

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Yeah look at all those senior studs and how great they played.

Buzz likes Buzz...I think after a few seasons, the new wears off, he starts rubbing people the wrong way and he doesn't have those same feelings when he was hired...and he doesn't enjoy it.

I think Buzz enjoys being courted, being in the news. Every 5 or so years, he wants to remind the college basketball world just how special he (thinks) is.

100% agree. He's selfish and everything he does is for attention to feed his ego. The #getbetter talks, the postgame prayers, and the press conference lectures are all for clicks and likes. That stuff gets old when people realize you might not be that good of a coach.

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It's why I'm not going to be surprised if the way his team plays at Maryland is nothing like the style he ended up playing with here. I think he got down a path of playing a specific way because of the players we had, and then he recruited even more players like that to fit it, which then made it even harder to play any other way, etc, etc, until we ended up with the worst shooting good team in the history of college basketball to make the tournament.

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FIFY

that is an astounding feat

just saw something about this kid earlier. sounds like hes going to be back in the SEC next year

I think Mills balls out (somewhere) next year making it look silly we didn't give him minutes wasted on Hef/Carter

If Mills is really good it's going to be annoying as hell. This team obviously needed guard help.

Buzz just didn't execute

Mikeyshooter said:

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To me he knows that he's limited as a coach and plans on getting out before the powers that be realize it. That was always the plan starting with Marquette to now. All the other preachy stuff is just window dressing to distract and get attention for reasons other than hoops.

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This is undeniable.

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I completely disagree.

It's hard to say for sure because he's also just a weird guy, but I think he physically can't handle stagnation. I don't know if he's got some kind of diagnosable disorder, but he obviously has organized his life to such an insane degree that there's little room for variation. (It's also why I think he does a mostly terrible job of handling anything unexpected happening.)

But by giving himself this six year clock he gives himself an excuse to sort of "reset" every six years.

It's why I'm not going to be surprised if the way his team plays at Maryland is nothing like the style he ended up playing with here. I think he got down a path of playing a specific way because of the players we had, and then he recruited even more players like that to fit it, which then made it even harder to play any other way, etc, etc, until we ended up with the worst shooting good team in the history of college basketball.

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I wanted him. I was happy we got him. As his tenure went on, it became more and more frustrating watching this play out.

We're better off, even with some potential short term headaches from literally having no roster.

Homerun hire that hit for singles here.

One thing you said a couple weeks ago that I absolutely agree with is that Buzz started to fall in love with the idea of winning in a weird way, it played to his ego. I think he got down that rabbit hole and we couldn't have gotten out even if we wanted to, and I don't think he wanted to anyway.

I picture him with a poster of Billy Beane on his wall.

Buzz had a tendency during interviews to go into an extemporaneous speech about how he couldn't even look at his phone during team events because time was so valuable. That each game would come down to one or two possessions, so they had to stay focused.

Or one time he was asked about inbound plays and he answered that what the players do the other 22 hours of the day when they're not at practice have more bearing on performance.

Could you ever see Oates answering a question like that? Scheyer would say 'We're about to drop 100 this game, hope they can score."

Hurley won every game in 2 straight tournaments by more than 10 points. Perhaps a strategy of having every game go down to 1-2 possessions is a bad philosophy.

Buzz's philosophy seemed to center on overcoming the mistakes that happen in life (missing shots > offensive rebounds, offensive droughts > getting turkeys to stay in the game, etc.)

He knew he had an imperfect team and he probably got a decent way to their ceiling as a group, but not solving the root causes of issues (trouble passing/running offense, low shooting percentage, etc.) would cap the ceiling lower than we liked.

There's only so many 50/50 one possession games that you can win, and it's tough to win six in a row.

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He isn't playing against the same level of talent.

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Remember this when we bring over players from Samford

Buzz wanted to win different. Winning in a way no one else had (shooting like dog****) got him excited.

Guy read Moneyball too many times and wanted to be the next Billy Beane.

It was never about Buzz but also it was always about Buzz. That sums it up well from a Jon Fanta interview. Even more puzzling is the fact that he's 3-1 vs Beard and 5-2 against Pearl. But obviously those guys have more success that matters. I'm happy that we have moved on