Respect the three piece clean glasss every ten minutes, but he never got us out of the second round. See ya. Love your speeches but this isn't church. Let's find a coach who can win. Beard I would love. He's an ass and a winner like Schloss. Don't want do they get us losers

Have to get out of the feeling like good Aggies with good nice coaches and freaking go for winning, especially in basketball. We need a cutthroat that only cares about wins

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Have to get out of the feeling like good Aggies with good nice coaches and freaking go for winning, especially in basketball. We need a cutthroat that only cares about wins

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The problem is too many Aggies don't really care about ever winning anything. They'd rather have a bonafide choir boy as coach in every sport but never win anything.

Very few coaches are choir boys. It takes a certain level of ruthlessness to be a consistently winning coach. Nick Saban. Bill Belicheck. Etc.

But, at A&M, we have a choirboy culture. It's why we never win anything of consequence in the Big 3 sports.

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TAMUallen said:

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Have to get out of the feeling like good Aggies with good nice coaches and freaking go for winning, especially in basketball. We need a cutthroat that only cares about wins

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The problem is too many Aggies don't really care about ever winning anything. They'd rather have a bonafide choir boy as coach in every sport but never win anything.

Very few coaches are choir boys. It takes a certain level of ruthlessness to be a consistently winning coach. Nick Saban. Bill Belicheck. Etc.

But, at A&M, we have a choirboy culture. It's why we never win anything of consequence in the Big 3 sports.

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Respect the three piece clean glasss every ten minutes, but he never got us out of the second round. See ya. Love your speeches but this isn't church. Let's find a coach who can win. Beard I would love. He's an ass and a winner like Schloss. Don't want do they get us losers

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Username checks out…baiting isn't helpful.

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zooguy96 said:

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TAMUallen said:

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Have to get out of the feeling like good Aggies with good nice coaches and freaking go for winning, especially in basketball. We need a cutthroat that only cares about wins

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The problem is too many Aggies don't really care about ever winning anything. They'd rather have a bonafide choir boy as coach in every sport but never win anything.

Very few coaches are choir boys. It takes a certain level of ruthlessness to be a consistently winning coach. Nick Saban. Bill Belicheck. Etc.

But, at A&M, we have a choirboy culture. It's why we never win anything of consequence in the Big 3 sports.

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Last A&M coach that had it - Jackie Sherrill. Those teams were not choir boys. They were bad asses.

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TAMUallen said:

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Have to get out of the feeling like good Aggies with good nice coaches and freaking go for winning, especially in basketball. We need a cutthroat that only cares about wins

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The problem is too many Aggies don't really care about ever winning anything. They'd rather have a bonafide choir boy as coach in every sport but never win anything.

Very few coaches are choir boys. It takes a certain level of ruthlessness to be a consistently winning coach. Nick Saban. Bill Belicheck. Etc.

But, at A&M, we have a choirboy culture. It's why we never win anything of consequence in the Big 3 sports.

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Except that they aren't really okay with having a nice guy who never wins. They just say that. If we were truly okay with nice guy who doesn't win, we'd have just stuck it out with Melvin.

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TAMUallen said:

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Have to get out of the feeling like good Aggies with good nice coaches and freaking go for winning, especially in basketball. We need a cutthroat that only cares about wins

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The problem is too many Aggies don't really care about ever winning anything. They'd rather have a bonafide choir boy as coach in every sport but never win anything.

Very few coaches are choir boys. It takes a certain level of ruthlessness to be a consistently winning coach. Nick Saban. Bill Belicheck. Etc.

But, at A&M, we have a choirboy culture. It's why we never win anything of consequence in the Big 3 sports.

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Last A&M coach that had it - Jackie Sherrill. Those teams were not choir boys. They were bad asses.

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It's the ONLY reason last year's baseball team performed the way it did! It took a slimy, dirtbag coach to get us there!

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TAMUallen said:

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Have to get out of the feeling like good Aggies with good nice coaches and freaking go for winning, especially in basketball. We need a cutthroat that only cares about wins

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The problem is too many Aggies don't really care about ever winning anything. They'd rather have a bonafide choir boy as coach in every sport but never win anything.

Very few coaches are choir boys. It takes a certain level of ruthlessness to be a consistently winning coach. Nick Saban. Bill Belicheck. Etc.

But, at A&M, we have a choirboy culture. It's why we never win anything of consequence in the Big 3 sports.

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Last A&M coach that had it - Jackie Sherrill. Those teams were not choir boys. They were bad asses.

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Yep, and the dumbasses who hire coaches must look for other dumbasses as a quality first.

I'd rather have a ruthless coach who is a badass who takes no prisoners.

But, I'm not sure that will never happen in A&M athletics.

Can we at least agree there's some room between "committed some minor NCAA infractions 10 years back" and "our rival fired them midseason for a assaulting a woman two years ago?"

Chris Jans was fired at Bowling Green for being super drunk at a bar and being filmed hitting on college girls ten years ago. I think we can all agree that was dumb, but he hasn't had any public issues since then so it barely even gets brought up and I think we'd all be fine with Jans.

If I thought Will Wade was an elite coach then I'd have been fine with hiring him. He ran into some NCAA trouble, okay, not the end of the world.

Just because you're wary of Chris Beard doesn't mean you want to blanket eliminate every coach who's ever had any issues off the court.

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Respect the three piece clean glasss every ten minutes, but he never got us out of the second round. See ya. Love your speeches but this isn't church. Let's find a coach who can win. Beard I would love. He's an ass and a winner like Schloss. Don't want do they get us losers

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He wasn't even going to church though!

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Can we at least agree there's some room between "committed some minor NCAA infractions 10 years back" and "our rival fired them midseason for a assaulting a woman two years ago?"

Chris Jans was fired at Bowling Green for being super drunk at a bar and being filmed hitting on college girls ten years ago. I think we can all agree that was dumb, but he hasn't had any public issues since then so it barely even gets brought up and I think we'd all be fine with Jans.

If I thought Will Wade was an elite coach then I'd have been fine with hiring him. He ran into some NCAA trouble, okay, not the end of the world.

Just because you're wary of Chris Beard doesn't mean you want to blanket eliminate every coach who's ever had any issues off the court.

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Have to get out of the feeling like good Aggies with good nice coaches and freaking go for winning, especially in basketball. We need a cutthroat that only cares about wins

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The problem is too many Aggies don't really care about ever winning anything. They'd rather have a bonafide choir boy as coach in every sport but never win anything.

Very few coaches are choir boys. It takes a certain level of ruthlessness to be a consistently winning coach. Nick Saban. Bill Belicheck. Etc.

But, at A&M, we have a choirboy culture. It's why we never win anything of consequence in the Big 3 sports.

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You're right, Elko is unfortunately a choir boy. Beard for the win

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The problem is too many Aggies don't really care about ever winning anything. They'd rather have a bonafide choir boy as coach in every sport but never win anything.

Very few coaches are choir boys. It takes a certain level of ruthlessness to be a consistently winning coach. Nick Saban. Bill Belicheck. Etc.

But, at A&M, we have a choirboy culture. It's why we never win anything of consequence in the Big 3 sports.

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That's not entirely true. We hired Schloss, who was of questionable character, even back then. We have had Jackie, and Jimbo, neither of which are choir boys. All of these threads are just a response to Beard, who allegedly beat on, bit and strangled his fianc. The consensus is that she recanted because she was losing her cash cow. Who knows? Is he really available or even interested? Probably not.

There's a difference between soft and immoral.

A&M is on my diploma and my resume. Like it or not, any time A&M is in the headlines, it has consequences for some of us professionally.

For example, LSU had a professor that was caught with pictures of children on his work desktop. FBI raided the office and everything. One of my coworkers studied under him and when it was brought up at the water cooler, they said, "Everything else about the guy was great. He did great research and they'll probably hire him back once he's out of prison."

Hmmm... we all look at him a little differently now. And it's something to think about if we interview candidates from that department. This is the culture they were educated in. This is what they've been shown as professional and acceptable.

I can shake poor sports performance in my professional life and even spin it to something like "That just demonstrates my tolerance for frustration and my capacity for loyalty." But if my university makes a spectacle about our core values yet won't stand by them just because a game is being played, it gets hard to defend.

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TAMUallen said:

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Have to get out of the feeling like good Aggies with good nice coaches and freaking go for winning, especially in basketball. We need a cutthroat that only cares about wins

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The problem is too many Aggies don't really care about ever winning anything. They'd rather have a bonafide choir boy as coach in every sport but never win anything.

Very few coaches are choir boys. It takes a certain level of ruthlessness to be a consistently winning coach. Nick Saban. Bill Belicheck. Etc.

But, at A&M, we have a choirboy culture. It's why we never win anything of consequence in the Big 3 sports.

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Why do people conflate coaches' "ruthlessness" with immortality? The two don't have to come hand in hand.

Saban was a hard-nosed and intense coach who ran a tight program. Ruthless in the way he coached perhaps.

But was he a cheater, abuser, or philanderer?

I don't think any hire of any coach will affect your professional career.

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There's a difference between soft and immoral.

A&M is on my diploma and my resume. Like it or not, any time A&M is in the headlines, it has consequences for some of us professionally.

For example, LSU had a professor that was caught with pictures of children on his work desktop. FBI raided the office and everything. One of my coworkers studied under him and when it was brought up at the water cooler, they said, "Everything else about the guy was great. He did great research and they'll probably hire him back once he's out of prison."

Hmmm... we all look at him a little differently now. And it's something to think about if we interview candidates from that department. This is the culture they were educated in. This is what they've been shown as professional and acceptable.

I can shake poor sports performance in my professional life and even spin it to something like "That just demonstrates my tolerance for frustration and my capacity for loyalty." But if my university makes a spectacle about our core values yet won't stand by them just because a game is being played, it gets hard to defend.

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This is a dumbass position. A sportsball coach at a school you attended 20 years ago has absolutely zero impact on your career. A prof having CSAM has zero correlation with "what you've been taught is acceptable". Relax your grip, you're going to squeeze the life out of your pearls

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amateur gene ecologist said:

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There's a difference between soft and immoral.

A&M is on my diploma and my resume. Like it or not, any time A&M is in the headlines, it has consequences for some of us professionally.

For example, LSU had a professor that was caught with pictures of children on his work desktop. FBI raided the office and everything. One of my coworkers studied under him and when it was brought up at the water cooler, they said, "Everything else about the guy was great. He did great research and they'll probably hire him back once he's out of prison."

Hmmm... we all look at him a little differently now. And it's something to think about if we interview candidates from that department. This is the culture they were educated in. This is what they've been shown as professional and acceptable.

I can shake poor sports performance in my professional life and even spin it to something like "That just demonstrates my tolerance for frustration and my capacity for loyalty." But if my university makes a spectacle about our core values yet won't stand by them just because a game is being played, it gets hard to defend.

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This is a dumbass position. A sportsball coach at a school you attended 20 years ago has absolutely zero impact on your career. A prof having CSAM has zero correlation with "what you've been taught is acceptable". Relax your grip, you're going to squeeze the life out of your pearls

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A representative of the university in a highly visible position doesn't have any affect on the school's reputation?

Correlation? What's the r squared value?

This guy at work being cool with CSAM on one of his supervisor's state computer is a red flag.

amateur gene ecologist said:

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Tango.Mike said:

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amateur gene ecologist said:

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There's a difference between soft and immoral.

A&M is on my diploma and my resume. Like it or not, any time A&M is in the headlines, it has consequences for some of us professionally.

For example, LSU had a professor that was caught with pictures of children on his work desktop. FBI raided the office and everything. One of my coworkers studied under him and when it was brought up at the water cooler, they said, "Everything else about the guy was great. He did great research and they'll probably hire him back once he's out of prison."

Hmmm... we all look at him a little differently now. And it's something to think about if we interview candidates from that department. This is the culture they were educated in. This is what they've been shown as professional and acceptable.

I can shake poor sports performance in my professional life and even spin it to something like "That just demonstrates my tolerance for frustration and my capacity for loyalty." But if my university makes a spectacle about our core values yet won't stand by them just because a game is being played, it gets hard to defend.

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This is a dumbass position. A sportsball coach at a school you attended 20 years ago has absolutely zero impact on your career. A prof having CSAM has zero correlation with "what you've been taught is acceptable". Relax your grip, you're going to squeeze the life out of your pearls

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A representative of the university in a highly visible position doesn't have any affect on the school's reputation?

Correlation? What's the r squared value?

This guy at work being cool with CSAM on one of his supervisor's state computer is a red flag.

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The employee being ok with the CSAM is entirely different than the stink of said professor's CSAM damaging graduates of his dept.

Correlations don't have R-squared values. The correlation is the R, saying it has an R^2 doesnt make any sense