There is a path to a #1 seed

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Yup. Probably unlikely for us, but it's there and isn't crazy. Helps that Purdue, Tech and Creighton keep getting big wins. Creighton with a big win over Marquette today.
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Gotta beat Tennessee and Auburn And 4-5 more.
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It's will be hard as hell to earn (and I don't expect us to pull it off), but we still have 3 top 5 teams on our schedule. We absolutely have the opportunity to play our way to a 1 seed. We're just talking hypotheticals here, but Texas Tech and Purdue have both climbed to top 8 in Net Ranking. Add 3 top 5 wins and that resume is freaking dynamite.

Me, I'm hoping for Ws against Georgia, Arkansas, @Miss St, Vanderbilt, and @LSU. That's definitely a 3 seed and could be a 2 seed. Beat Tennessee at home (imo our best chance to land a top 5 win) and we're definitely a 2 seed.

@Florida and Auburn... I want to win one but those teams are so freaking good.
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a 2nd half like 2023 gets us there
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I can't remember a year like this for wins against teams that have won big game after big game after losing to us, reinforcing the magnitude of our win.

I agree w/TgjtAg08, Creighton over #11 Marquette today is huge. It propels us to a high 2 or 1 seed if/when Wade, Phelps & Manny lead us offensively in the big-time games down the stretch. (from my lips to the basketball Gods ears)
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Can you imagine the sheer anxiety of having this team as a 1 seed during Rd 2?

I probably won't sleep tonight even thinking about it.
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It's wild to me that we are even discussing this. Most years it's… well if we win these games maybe we'll get off the bubble and slide in as a 10 seed.
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Deputy Travis Junior said:

It's will be hard as hell to earn (and I don't expect us to pull it off), but we still have 3 top 5 teams on our schedule. We absolutely have the opportunity to play our way to a 1 seed. We're just talking hypotheticals here, but Texas Tech and Purdue have both climbed to top 8 in Net Ranking. Add 3 top 5 wins and that resume is freaking dynamite.

Me, I'm hoping for Ws against Georgia, Arkansas, @Miss St, Vanderbilt, and @LSU. That's definitely a 3 seed and could be a 2 seed. Beat Tennessee at home (imo our best chance to land a top 5 win) and we're definitely a 2 seed.

@Florida and Auburn... I want to win one but those teams are so freaking good.


If we do win those five games- even without beating either Tennessee, Florida or Auburn - we finish 12-6 - and I believe that we would earn a 2 seed when you add what Purdue, Texas Tech, and Creighton, and even Ohio State are doing - making our nonconference win resume elite.
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1 and 2 are the same thing, pretty much.
94chem,
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94chem said:

1 and 2 are the same thing, pretty much.

No they're not. Sweet 16 matchup is more manageable playing against a 4 or 5 as opposed to a likely 3 seed.
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WIN and we get there! That's the answer.
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fightintxag13 said:

94chem said:

1 and 2 are the same thing, pretty much.

No they're not. Sweet 16 matchup is more manageable playing against a 4 or 5 as opposed to a likely 3 seed.


Meh. The 4/5 teams are quite often teams like last year's Alabama. 1997 Arizona. When you get to the 2nd weekend, seeds don't matter. You either play your best or you go home.
94chem,
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We can beat anyone. Let's keep getting better, get everyone healthy, and gain confidence.
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Selfishly, I'm hoping for a 3 seed because two of those brackets have first round games in Denver and I live 45 minutes from Denver.
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That's not how the sites work. They're assigned based on proximity of the top seeded teams. While being a 3 seed would likely send us to Denver instead of Wichita, it's not a guarantee that one or two of the 3 seeds will be in Denver just because they're 3 seeds.
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fightintxag13 said:

That's not how the sites work. They're assigned based on proximity of the top seeded teams. While being a 3 seed would likely send us to Denver instead of Wichita, it's not a guarantee that one or two of the 3 seeds will be in Denver just because they're 3 seeds.
I understand how the process works. I wasn't talking so much about the mechanics of how it would happen, but rather just saying that selfishly I hope it works out that we are in Denver for the first two rounds.
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Fwiw as long as we don't implode or a bunch of really crazy stuff happens I think it's very likely we're headed for Denver or Wichita just because of where all the highly ranked teams are and where the sites are this year.

Whether we're a 1 seed or a 4 seed I think those two are by far the most likely.
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94chem said:

fightintxag13 said:

94chem said:

1 and 2 are the same thing, pretty much.

No they're not. Sweet 16 matchup is more manageable playing against a 4 or 5 as opposed to a likely 3 seed.


Meh. The 4/5 teams are quite often teams like last year's Alabama. 1997 Arizona. When you get to the 2nd weekend, seeds don't matter. You either play your best or you go home.


No.


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Interesting. So basically 3/4/5 have equivalent chances at FF. Even with the 4/5 playing the 1 in the S16. The 2/3 disparity is really surprising to me. All I can surmise is that there are typically about 5-7 really really good teams and not just four. Then a bunch of very good ones down the next couple of seed lines.
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20ag07 said:

Can you imagine the sheer anxiety of having this team as a 1 seed during Rd 2?

I probably won't sleep tonight even thinking about it.


Tbh don't know if I want this level of anxiety
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fightintxag13 said:

94chem said:

1 and 2 are the same thing, pretty much.

No they're not. Sweet 16 matchup is more manageable playing against a 4 or 5 as opposed to a likely 3 seed.

The 3 seeds that I pick in my bracket never do anything



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As a Denverite, I have all of my finger and toes crossed to get to watch the Ags in person without traveling.
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Win all remaining reg season games and there should be no question the Ags are a 1 seed. Easier said than done of course . It might even be possible if we lost only one and maybe even 2 remaining reg season losses. Nothing happens in a vacuum.
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As a Wichitan I would be stoked to have them here for round 1 ( I already have my tickets )
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halfastros81 said:

Win all remaining reg season games and there should be no question the Ags are a 1 seed. Easier said than done of course . It might even be possible if we lost only one and maybe even 2 remaining reg season losses. Nothing happens in a vacuum.
We would be the overall #1 seed if we won all of our remaining regular season games.
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The main thing in our favor is that most of the other high seeds have closer locations anyway.

Let's say things finish with the current Torvik projection: (parentheses would be their next closest), using strikethroughs to show preference but that preference is full

1 - Auburn - Lexington (Raleigh)
2 - Duke - Raleigh (Lexington)
3 - Alabama - Lexington (Raleigh)
4 - Tennessee - Raleigh (Lexington)
5 - Houston - Wichita (Denver)
6 - Purdue - Milwaukee (Cleveland)
7 - Texas Tech - Wichita (Denver)
8 - Arizona - Denver (Wichita)
9 - Texas A&M - Wichita, Denver (Lexington)
10 - Iowa State - Milwaukee (Wichita)
11 - Kansas - Wichita, Denver, Milwaukee, Lexington, Cleveland
12 - Illinois - Milwaukee, Lexington, Cleveland (Wichita)
13 - Wisconsin - Milwaukee, Cleveland, Lexington, Wichita, Raleigh, Denver, Providence (Seattle)
14 - Michigan State - Milwaukee, Cleveland, Lexington, Raleigh, Providence (Wichita)
15 - Kentucky - Raleigh, Cleveland, Milwaukee, Wichita, Providence, Denver, Seattle
16 - Michigan - Cleveland, Milwaukee, Lexington, Providence, Raleigh, Wichita, Denver, Seattle

Key is we have to be seeded ahead of at least one of Houston, Texas Tech and Kansas and not fall too far down the seed line where we're getting bumped by other teams from up north to Seattle.

Edit: Iowa State is kind of a wildcard. I don't know that I've ever gotten a definitive answer on whether schools get to submit a preference or something. Milwaukee is closer, but I imagine they'd rather play in Wichita.
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If we land in Wichita, I will post a list of places to visit and eat. I'll also give some general guidelines in case one of you clowns tries to book an Airbnb to keep you out of the hood..
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bobinator said:

The main thing in our favor is that most of the other high seeds have closer locations anyway.

Let's say things finish with the current Torvik projection: (parentheses would be their next closest), using strikethroughs to show preference but that preference is full

1 - Auburn - Lexington (Raleigh)
2 - Duke - Raleigh (Lexington)
3 - Alabama - Lexington (Raleigh)
4 - Tennessee - Raleigh (Lexington)
5 - Houston - Wichita (Denver)
6 - Purdue - Milwaukee (Cleveland)
7 - Texas Tech - Wichita (Denver)
8 - Arizona - Denver (Wichita)
9 - Texas A&M - Wichita, Denver (Lexington)
10 - Iowa State - Milwaukee (Wichita)
11 - Kansas - Wichita, Denver (Milwaukee)
12 - Illinois - Milwaukee, Lexington, Cleveland (Wichita)
13 - Wisconsin - Milwaukee, Cleveland, Lexington, Wichita, Raleigh, Denver, Providence (Seattle)
14 - Michigan State - Milwaukee, Cleveland, Lexington, Raleigh, Providence (Wichita)
15 - Kentucky - Raleigh, Cleveland, Milwaukee, Wichita, Providence, Denver, Seattle
16 - Michigan - Cleveland, Milwaukee, Lexington, Providence, Raleigh, Wichita, Denver, Seattle

Key is we have to be seeded ahead of at least one of Houston, Texas Tech and Kansas and not fall too far down the seed line where we're getting bumped by other teams from up north to Seattle.

Edit: Iowa State is kind of a wildcard. I don't know that I've ever gotten a definitive answer on whether schools get to submit a preference or something. Milwaukee is closer, but I imagine they'd rather play in Wichita.

Edit 2: accidentally sent Kansas to Denver instead of Cleveland, will fix
Teams do not get to submit a preference. If Iowa State were a protected (top 4 seed), they would be in Milwaukee (305ish miles?) as first destination and Wichita (355 miles) as second destination so you have it correct here.
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Charlie Moran said:

As a Wichitan I would be stoked to have them here for round 1 ( I already have my tickets )
Wichita has one of the fewest remaining number of all-session tickets of any site. As we get closer if it becomes more clear that's where the Ags are heading, it might be worth trying to purchase all-session in advance instead of the team allotment.
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Or buy them cheap on the secondary market from Kansas fans
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I know it may not be possible to prevent, but if you are Auburn and you get the No. 1 overall seed and then you watch Duke get to play 30 minutes from campus the first weekend ... what a beating. Its almost like, in principle, Duke should not get to play in Raleigh unless they are the No. 1 overall seed or the No. 1 overall seed is also 30-45 minutes away from a first-round city.

Even though Lexington isn't terribly far from Auburn, its still almost 25x further than Raleigh is from Durham.
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Eh, they got to play in Birmingham as a 9 seed a couple of years ago because they were the 9 in Houston's bracket. (Alabama was also a 1 that year and got to play in Birmingham)

Just the way these things go.
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bobinator said:

Eh, they got to play in Birmingham as a 9 seed a couple of years ago because they were the 9 in Houston's bracket. (Alabama was also a 1 that year and got to play in Birmingham)

Just the way these things go.


Yep

It's impossible to have perfect brackets with perfect seeding and perfect locations

It is what it is
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