Stepping down after this season. I wouldn't mind if they went after Beard or Drew. From what I read, buyouts at AL, FL and AU might be too high.

Hopefully a big name takes it before they even consider Buzz.

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I have read that IU may be coming after Buzz to be their next head coach.

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Brilliant

Feel free to delete this thread. Forgot about the coaching carousel thread.

Buzz is towards the top of realistic candidates for sure.

I'm not sure Scott drew is a realistic target for them or not but he's from Indiana. He turned down Kentucky so he may be at Baylor until he retires.

Chris beard might be interested in an ailing blue blood.

Assembly hall is a neat place to see a game but it needs some work. Not sure how much that facility hurts them with coaches and recruiting.

Not to mention, this team is similar to teams Buzz has built before he left. Senior laden.

Hoping Buzz stays because he has turned a corner with recruiting and portal players. Not to mention WINNING.

Indiana = USC football?

BCG Disciple said:

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Not to mention, this team is similar to teams Buzz has built before he left. Senior laden.

Hoping Buzz stays because he has turned a corner with recruiting and portal players. Not to mention WINNING.

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I hope Buzz stays as well. But, I don't know what you've seen to think his recruiting has turned some kind of corner. He coaches a style that can win with the lesser recruits he can get.

Stone44 said:

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Buzz at IU will be similar to Billy G. at Kentucky. Blue bloods won't work hard enough to play the kind of style that these coaches expect. Buzz better keep his a$$ in Aggieland where he is a perfect fit.

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I'm not sure IU is a true blue blood program these days. Since 2002 they haven't been past the sweet 16 and that they have done only 3 times.

That said, I agree with your general idea that he isn't a good fit for the program because they still think they are a blue blood and Buzz is a blue color coach that wins with gritty, sometimes ugly basketball from kids that work their butts off that aren't 5 or in most cases even 4 star recruits.

https://www.si.com/college/tamu/men-s-basketball/texas-a-m-aggies-buzz-williams-linked-to-indiana-hoosiers-job-01jkh9aga4fk

Si.com links buzz to Indiana because…he is a good coach. Literally no other reason in this clickbait article.

I mean- SI is basically written by AI these days. All they sourced was On3s list of candidates, which were several.

The headline of "linked" is completely untrue.

East ish.

I mean, I45/US75 is kinda the dividing line

This thread has the dumbs.

BuzzFan24 said:

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Zero, maybe even negative, chance Buzz leaves A&M for another job. This is his final stop.

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I live in Southern Indiana about 70 miles from Bloomington. Fans around here like pretty offenses more than hardnosed bb like Buzz plays.

Its a much different situation here (IU, UL, UK, Purdue are all close). Fans are more basketball savvy here.

I don't think Buzzball would be well received in Bloomington, offense if not pretty enough. It's not just about wins, it has to look good too.

I completely agree. Buzz would be a bad fit at IU for the reasons you cited.

A program that hires Buzz has to be willing to give him some runway and be willing to embrace, well, the chaotic style of play and aesthetically ugly offense.

Adam87inSA said:

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East ish.

I mean, I45/US75 is kinda the dividing line

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Fort Worth is the gateway to west Texas.

https://www.davickservices.com/gateway_to_west_texas.htm

BuzzFan24 said:

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Zero, maybe even negative, chance Buzz leaves A&M for another job. This is his final stop.

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Unless they pony up so more NIL $$ he will be gone. Word on the street is the team has only $500,000 of NIL that Buzz pretty much raised that on his own

greg.w.h said:

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Adam87inSA said:

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East ish.

I mean, I45/US75 is kinda the dividing line

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Fort Worth is the gateway to west Texas.

https://www.davickservices.com/gateway_to_west_texas.htm

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and in between west Texas and east Texas is… Central Texas

I really love Buzz and his staff and their overall approach to the development of these young guys. I am a bit confused why we think A&M has not invest enough resources when Buzz is the #11 highest paid coach in the division 1 at $4.48 million per year. Ahead two spots of Indiana's coach Mike Woodson. Perhaps NIL needs to be a priority and also the assistant salary coaches but our coach is well compensated per the marketplace.


https://sportsdata.usatoday.com/ncaa/salaries/mens-basketball/coach

1 Bill Self Kansas $9,625,642* Big 12 $9,453,800 $171,842 $800,000 $100,000 $23,100,000
2 John Calipari Kentucky $8,539,961 SEC $8,500,000 $39,961 $50,000 $50,000 $34,968,749
3 Tom Izzo Michigan State $6,196,169* Big 10 $5,771,169 $425,000 $750,000 $75,000 $7,000,000
4 Bruce Pearl Auburn $5,716,652 SEC $5,683,852 $32,800 $925,000 $125,000 $14,635,417
5 Rick Barnes Tennessee $5,700,000 SEC $5,700,000 $0 $3,000,000 $800,000 $18,175,000
6 Scott Drew Baylor $5,132,821 Big 12 $5,132,821 - - - -
7 Dan Hurley UConn $5,000,000 Big East $5,000,000 - $2,000,000 $775,000 $20,325,000
8 Brad Underwood Illinois $4,700,000* Big 10 $4,700,000 $0 $1,075,000 $92,500 $25,850,000
9 Kelvin Sampson Houston $4,610,000 Big 12 $4,600,000 $10,000 $1,050,000 $135,000 $14,400,000
10 Nate Oats Alabama $4,530,045 SEC $4,512,000 $18,045 $850,000 $225,000 $25,304,167
11 Buzz Williams Texas A&M $4,487,215* SEC $4,487,215 $0 $850,000 $100,000 $19,000,000
12 Eric Musselman Arkansas $4,245,850 SEC $4,200,000 $45,850 $800,000 $250,000 $12,005,000
13 Mike Woodson Indiana $4,200,000 Big 10

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Unless they pony up so more NIL $$ he will be gone. Word on the street is the team has only $500,000 of NIL that Buzz pretty much raised that on his own

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Does anyone believe these numbers?

Here's the thing- if Buzz hits an Elite 8 this year, we all know that money will be flowing like wine.

If he doesn't, ain't a lot of schools gonna be calling that are paying $4+M and offering big NIL deals.

It's pretty easy math to understand.

The admin's not going to do another big extension if we don't at least hit a sweet 16. And nobody else is coming calling.

keo1 said:

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salary and resources are diffrent

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This. Also, when hired, Buzz was top 5. Now not in top 10.

in todays college sports if you dont have big NIL you will get left behind no matter who coach is

keo1 said:

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salary and resources are diffrent

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Is it mainly NIL what we are missing in terms of resources? About 1 year ago, I heard the person leading the Texas a&m United NIL (former head coach men golf) and I was a bit disappointed in the lack of strategy and vision.

Do you think regardless of Indiana's vacancy, Buzz might be interested in other openings like Virginia?