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6:19p, 12/16/24
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Once again leading the country in offensive rebounding percentage. Sure I understand being good at it in consecutive years, but leading it back to back is just crazy

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bobinator
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6:34p, 12/16/24
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Right now we've got company at least. Last year it wasn't even close. Our 42.3 was 2.5 better than second, us to #2 was the same as #2 to #8.
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6:50p, 12/16/24
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Also other SEC teams in top 10
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7:40p, 12/16/24
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Crazier, we IMPROVED on this stat! This years team is better than last years team which was already buzz worthy in this category
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7:47p, 12/16/24
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We'll see if we've improved at the end of the year, our opponents are about to get a lot more athletic
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The Marksman
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7:58p, 12/16/24
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Almost like Buzzball actually works
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8:00p, 12/16/24
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And Garcia is not one of our top 3 offensive rebounders this year.
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bobinator
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In reply to MarcAg • 8:03p, 12/16/24
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Yeah Coleman is in the top 25 in the country in OR%. Per KenPom's numbers nobody on our team ranks higher nationally in anything than Coleman does in offensive rebound percentage at #25.
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8:05p, 12/16/24
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In reply to MarcAg • 8:28p, 12/16/24
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MarcAg said:
And Garcia is not one of our top 3 offensive rebounders this year.
But I bet he will be towards the end of the season; stats are important but you know that these other teams are game planning to focus on and block out Garcia because everyone knows
"Can I Ask What Exactly Is An Aggie? Sure! An Aggie is quite simply the best thing anyone can strive to be!" - Sydney Colson
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8:39p, 12/16/24
I've started watching our players position themselves when our shots go up, rather than just watching the ball. It's impressive how hard and coordinated they work to set the TEAM up for a rebound
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In reply to Complete Idiot • 8:41p, 12/16/24
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Yeah I was going to push back on that tweet a bit because there's a little more to it than "simple effort."
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In reply to bobinator • 9:17p, 12/16/24
Definitely more to it than "want to".

Then there is Dennis Rodman, who did appear to rebound incredibly well with various teams and systems and did so at 6'7".

But the Aggies set up teammates for rebounds through positioning, master the tap out, AND yes, play damn hard
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El Mero Mero 14
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In reply to HotardRat • 8:47a, 12/17/24
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Man, if I were a coach about to play us I'd run about two straight practices of box out drills.
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In reply to El Mero Mero 14 • 8:52a, 12/17/24
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Agree, but most of it is "want to"
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In reply to El Mero Mero 14 • 9:11a, 12/17/24
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It's just a hard mentality shift for some teams because it's so unusual. You can practice it all you want, but once the game starts and your basketball instincts kick in, you're standing under the basket and you think you're in good rebounding position because that's what a decade plus of playing organized basketball has taught you, but then you've got extremely athletic players like Solo and Payne, an extremely strong player like Coleman, and an athletic-but-also-crafty player like Garcia just attacking your body to move you from the spot or, what Solo does a lot, following the shot towards the basket which is an unusual angle for someone to be coming from.

I'd compare it to facing an option team in the middle of the schedule in football. It's just not something you're used to seeing, you can't really practice it because your players aren't going to be very good at it, and it only takes one guy not doing his job right for it to break down in the game.
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In reply to bobinator • 9:21a, 12/17/24
bobinator said:
It's just a hard mentality shift for some teams because it's so unusual. You can practice it all you want, but once the game starts and your basketball instincts kick in, you're standing under the basket and you think you're in good rebounding position because that's what a decade plus of playing organized basketball has taught you, but then you've got extremely athletic players like Solo and Payne, an extremely strong player like Coleman, and an athletic-but-also-crafty player like Garcia just attacking your body to move you from the spot or, what Solo does a lot, following the shot towards the basket which is an unusual angle for someone to be coming from.

I'd compare it to facing an option team in the middle of the schedule in football. It's just not something you're used to seeing, you can't really practice it because your players aren't going to be very good at it, and it only takes one guy not doing his job right for it to break down in the game.


Yeah, nothing will replicate live reps with buklets flying, but you best believe we're busting out the shell drill for about an hour.
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In reply to bobinator • 9:36a, 12/17/24
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bobinator said:
Yeah I was going to push back on that tweet a bit because there's a little more to it than "simple effort."
Oh yes definitely, I remember Buzz saying last year that Garcia watches game tape of every team and plans his plan of attack. That's insane to think about.
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9:39a, 12/17/24
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Box out drills were the worst. There's nothing more annoying than playing a team where every player is hell bent on not letting you get in between them and basket on a rebound.
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10:47a, 12/17/24
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This is the part of basketball that often gets overlooked and this is Buzz's calling card. It so simple but it works and you have to watch game tape to really see it in action and even then watching it on TV isn't that great because you're not seeing it from every angle.

One other thing to highlight is that since most teams don't emphasize rebounding as much as we do, they tend to get over physical and end up fouling us. So not only are we generating 2nd or 3rd opportunities at the basket, but we're also accumulating loose ball fouls at the same time.

That stat isn't surprising with most of all our players back from last year. Of course, some of the other teams are there because of the non-con schedule but I'm guessing we're all going to take a dip once conference play starts.
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10:55a, 12/17/24
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And one other thing to denote: I was surprised that Buzz recently said that Payne hasn't played well at all and that he has only shown glimpses of what he can do (17 pts, 9 rebs against Purdue). I was kind of take aback because I thought he playing alright. However, if you look at his rebounding numbers, they're not where they could be when you consider his height, weight, and athleticism.

His numbers could be better and perhaps it is because he hasn't adopted playing the way we play day in an day out.
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12:40p, 12/17/24
Our FG% is 41.5% (324th). Maybe you focus on getting offensive rebounds when you know you're gonna miss.
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2:12p, 12/17/24
What's even crazier about that stat is this team isn't very big. They're just scrappy, determined and work hard to grab boards.

They need to keep this number up to be able to make a run
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In reply to YZ250 • 2:58p, 12/17/24
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YZ250 said:
Our FG% is 41.5% (324th). Maybe you focus on getting offensive rebounds when you know you're gonna miss.
Opposite. You focus on getting shots up when you know you're gonna have a great chance to get the rebound.
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In reply to bobinator • 6:35p, 12/17/24
bobinator said:
We'll see if we've improved at the end of the year, our opponents are about to get a lot more athletic
The other SEC teams on there haven't played near the amount of talent we have. I think they are far more likely to drop than we are.
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6:50p, 12/17/24
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I am very impressed by Florida tonight. Regardless of the score they have serious talent.
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In reply to Heineken-Ashi • 7:07p, 12/17/24
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I don't think we'll drop in the rankings, I just think our percentage will come down a little because of the competition.
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In reply to GrayMatter • 8:29p, 12/17/24
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GrayMatter said:
And one other thing to denote: I was surprised that Buzz recently said that Payne hasn't played well at all and that he has only shown glimpses of what he can do (17 pts, 9 rebs against Purdue). I was kind of take aback because I thought he playing alright. However, if you look at his rebounding numbers, they're not where they could be when you consider his height, weight, and athleticism.

His numbers could be better and perhaps it is because he hasn't adopted playing the way we play day in an day out.

I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't ultimately have huge rebounding numbers. With the way we teach rebounding his job is to clear space and block out, with the idea someone else will come in and grab the board. Much like a couple of years ago Marble didn't have stellar rebounding numbers, but he was integral to what we were trying to do in that regard.
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