***2024-25 NET Rankings***

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The first edition of the NET will be revealed tomorrow and thus updated daily, so I figured I'd kick this off.

As a reminder, below are the quad definitions:

  • Quad 1: Home 1-30, Neutral 1-50, Away 1-75
  • Quad 2: Home 31-75, Neutral 51-100, Away 76-135
  • Quad 3: Home 76-160, Neutral 101-200, Away 135-240
  • Quad 4: Home 161-353, Neutral 201-353, Away 241-353

And for reference, here is our resume and seed on Selection Sunday the past 3 seasons:

2024

*NET was 46 on the prior Monday kicking off Championship week (+1 boost from conference tournaments)


2023

*NET was 23 on the prior Monday kicking off Championship week (+5 boost from conference tournaments)
*The 1 remaining is the SEC Championship game vs. Bama played hours before the bracket reveal.


2022

*NET was 56 on the prior Monday kicking off Championship week (+14 boost from conference tournaments)
*S-curve calculation here was based on Notre Dame being the last at-large team coming in at 47 on the seed list, and we were the 4th team out.
*The 1 remaining is the SEC Championship game vs. Tennessee played hours before the bracket reveal.
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And this is what our schedule looks like based on the final NET rankings from last year.




MarcAg
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I feel like the NET is as worthless in Dec/jan as bracketology.
Mikeyshooter
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I can't believe we're still doing this arbitrary Quad BS.


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MarcAg said:

I feel like the NET is as worthless in Dec/jan as bracketology.
are you saying what Lunardi says isn't the end all be all
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Ags open at #43 in the NET.

https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-men/d1/ncaa-mens-basketball-net-rankings


AggieCrew44
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43 seems low. I was expecting low 30s

3-2 in quad 1/2 with no bad losses
BaytownAg13
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If you just look at records against each quad, some of these rankings don't make sense (including ours). Hopefully it will make more sense as we get deeper into the season.
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MarcAg said:

I feel like the NET is as worthless in Dec/jan as bracketology.

They shouldn't even release it until then. There is not enough data yet and all it does is confuse or upset people.
miller0926
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Didn't expect Ohio St. to be #12
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Creighton at 99 and Rutgers at 86. Not helpful right now; hopefully they can get their **** together.
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Detective Jake Peralta
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Our home schedule sets up so nicely this year. As of today, we'd have five Q1 opportunities at home, the same number as 22-23 and 23-24 COMBINED.

For reference, we were 5-0 in those games the last two seasons.
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Just think how different all of this will look even one week from today. Not just for the Ags, but nation-wide.
But those who hope in the LORD will renew their strength. They will soar on wings like eagles; they will run and not grow weary, they will walk and not be faint. Isaiah 40:31 (NIV)
Fanatic15...Drs2B!
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Both of them will move into top 50 by the end of January in my opinion.
Fanatic15...Drs2B!
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Yes. That's helpful since they were a home win.
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Detective Jake Peralta said:

Our home schedule sets up so nicely this year. As of today, we'd have five Q1 opportunities at home, the same number as 22-23 and 23-24 COMBINED.

For reference, we were 5-0 in those games the last two seasons.


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LouisvilleAg
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We are 43rd

1-1 in Q1 (Ohio State / Oregon)
2-1 in Q2 (Rutgers, Creighton / UCF)
0-0 in Q3
3-0 in Q4

Wake is 115
Purdue is 21
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LouisvilleAg said:

We are 43rd

1-1 in Q1 (Ohio State / Oregon)
2-1 in Q2 (Rutgers, Creighton / UCF)
0-0 in Q3
3-0 in Q4

Wake is 115
Purdue is 21

Don't forget Tech at 36 - neutral site game. Lots will shift in the weeks to come, but our non-conference SoS won't be something we'll have to worry about come Selection Sunday.

But those who hope in the LORD will renew their strength. They will soar on wings like eagles; they will run and not grow weary, they will walk and not be faint. Isaiah 40:31 (NIV)
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Teams we have played so far:
- 84 UCF - Q2 L
- 296 East Texas A&M - Q4 W
- 332 Lamar - Q4 W
- 12 Ohio St. - Q1 W
- 168 Southern U. - Q4 W
- 15 Oregon - Q1 L
- 99 Creighton - Q2 W
- 86 Rutgers - Q2 W

Interesting that we came in at 43...it would be nice if Ohio St. keeps it up so that remains a Q1 win. We need Creighton and Rutgers to pick it up, it would be big if those could shift to Q1 wins, but they could each shift to Q4 because they are on the fringe right now.

Ohio St. at 12 is interesting...they have a Q2 win over Texas at a neutral site, Q1 losses against us and Pitt, and then the rest off their wins are Q4 over Youngstown St., Evansville, Campbell, and Green Bay where they won by 34, 50, 44, and 33 respectively. It is really weird how much of a boost you get for blowing out bum teams...seems like we would be ranked higher if we stretched our margin of victory against Lamar or Southern.

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Here's what puts my brain into a pretzel about the NET -

Michigan and Texas Tech are 35 and 36 in the NET, yet both have a Q3 loss and neither have played a single Q1 OR Q2 game! WHAT?

Cincinnati is 11 in the NET with zero Q1 or Q2 games played. UCLA is 16th in the NET with only 1 Q2 played, and they lost.
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As Zachary mentioned above, there is an efficiency/margin of victory component embedded in the NET as well. There was some controversy last season with a coach or coaches from the ACC (I think?) complaining about schools in the Big 12 gaming that side of it by running up the score in their early season buy games.

Edit: found a link talking about it. It was Clemson's Brad Brownell.
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This is why you can't worry about it much this early in the season. There's less than ten games of data for everyone. So yeah, if your team is hyper efficient against bad teams, you're going to be ranked pretty high. And if you've somehow managed to be fairly efficient against good teams, you're going to be really high.
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Yeah I remember that. The idea/conspiracy was the Big 12 scheduled easier non-conference games and beat the sh*t out of them to get their NET high heading into Big 12 play, and therefore once conference play started their inflated NET rankings made it difficult for any team to fall unless they lost all their games.
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Agree with all that it is too early to put much stock into these numbers, but keep in mind A&M is 26% done with their regular season schedule. That's not a small amount. Plus, the Big 10 starts conference games this week. I'm guessing the NCAA wanted to publish these numbers (even if it doesn't paint too accurate of a picture) before any league games get played.

But those who hope in the LORD will renew their strength. They will soar on wings like eagles; they will run and not grow weary, they will walk and not be faint. Isaiah 40:31 (NIV)
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We helped cement Oregon's 16 spot rise in writers' and coaches' polls in the other hand!!! They have a similar 15 in NCAA NET as of yesterday.
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Wake Forest coming in at NET of 115 makes tomorrow's game a "must not lose at home" situation!
miller0926
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Up to 39 today. Wake drops from 113 to 119
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I'm going to keep track of the NET rankings of our opponents.

So far among teams from 1 bid leagues we have:

Lamar at 335
East Texas A&M at 295
Southern at 175

I grant its hard to predict who is going to end up where, but I think beating team #175 is WAY better than beating team 335. Our schedule is ABSOLUTELY brutal; for reference there's power conference teams who ALREADY have wins over 1 bid league teams than we play total.

There's only two freebies left:
Houston Christian at 345
Abilene Christian at 213

Again, I give the Athletic dept and Buzz an enormous amount of credit for recognizing what the committee likes to see.

Zachary Klement
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Creighton knocking off Kansas will give us a nice lil bump!
PJYoung
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6 SEC teams in the top ten now. Ms State jumps 16 spots to 10.
miller0926
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12-5 Snapshot after the SEC domination





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Auburn letting us down... (sarcasm, I understand who they were playing)
LouisvilleAg
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TombstoneTex said:

Auburn letting us down... (sarcasm, I understand who they were playing)
Duke looks really good with C. Flagg. For once, I actually think they have a really good team. I expect Duke to run away with the ACC.

Unfortunately, the SEC is going to beat up everyone's resume. I doubt a team comes out of the conference with less than 4 losses in conference.
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Well we're going undefeated in conference play so....
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