If buzz doesn't make it to the sweet 16 this year we should be calling for buzz to be gone. Can't keep having these mediocre years.
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Last: 16 days ago by bobinator
I call on you to resign from posting.
If you think Buzz is in ANY danger of being fired after this season, you're a damn fool. Short of a non-basketball related scandal he's not going anywhere for a long time unless it's his choice.
Didn't mention resources. Fail.
and Buzz's salary. This board is really slippingfrenchtoast said:
Didn't mention resources. Fail.
Goodbullag142 said:
If buzz doesn't make it to the sweet 16 this year we should be calling for buzz to be gone. Can't keep having these mediocre years.
Define mediocre years…
And while you're at it, could you also define mediocre facilities, mediocre attendance, and mediocre fans?
If we were good people would watch. Buzz doesn't recruit and plays boring basketball. If we got a coach that could recruit people would want to come watch the games.
Boring basketball that wins is worth watching…
I'm sure the coach that has us on an upward trend isn't going anywhere. He's done impressive with what he's had.
What weird, random August 28th brain vomit this was.
Wait is this thread the tryout to see who replaces Hop as the board troll?
I don't think anybody but maybe the most die hard pumper is expecting us to make it to the S16 this year so weird post
greg.w.h said:
Boring basketball that wins is worth watching…
Especially when it's not boring…
So being a 11 and making it to the 16 would earn him more time but being a 4 and getting bounced by the 5 is a no go for you?
OP username does not check out. Get a life.
Buzz is a great fit for A&M. If we got some up and comer they would just leave. We need a strong fan base and some NIL money.
"Mediocre", it's amazing the narratives that get shoved down people's throats these days.
Maroon Dawn said:
I don't think anybody but maybe the most die hard pumper is expecting us to make it to the S16 this year so weird post
Classic Maroon Dawn post.
I guess ESPN's Jeff Borzello (#12) and CBS' Gary Parrish (#11) are die hard pumpers,
This team should be very good, and anything below a top six seed is probably a disappointing regular season (unless we have crazy injuries or something.)
After that it's the randomness of the NCAA Tournament but this team should be expected to have one of our better seasons.
To be clear the OP is also weird, but so is saying only delusional people think this is a sweet 16 caliber team.
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i think sweet 16 should be the goal bare
minimum. with what this team has coming back and the additions made via th portal tbis will be by far and away the best team buzz has had.
but if it doesn't happen i like what buzz has done with our program. we are relevant again which makes it fun to watch.
minimum. with what this team has coming back and the additions made via th portal tbis will be by far and away the best team buzz has had.
but if it doesn't happen i like what buzz has done with our program. we are relevant again which makes it fun to watch.
Goodbullag142 said:
If we were good people would watch. Buzz doesn't recruit and plays boring basketball. If we got a coach that could recruit people would want to come watch the games.
Wow… you sound like "football guy". The season opener with ND is almost here and you're posting "boring basketball" here… now? Did the guys over there push you out?
Last season was a really good season… beat Kentucky, beat Tennessee, took Houston to overtime on an unbelievable shot by Garcia. BORING?!
We lost a key starter for the season and those that did start were not that big. To play the lineup that we played required guys that had speed, skill, smarts. Not really a boring brand of basketball… and we won a good bit.
Can't recruit? I judge a coach by his relationship with his players. Do they stay with the program? Do they follow the plan? Do they want to be there? How many basketball players earned their rings last year? I think is 4. You might not be impressed… but maybe you can tell me how many football players earned their Aggie rings last year?
We paid a guy $76,000,000 NOT TO COACH our football team! Seriously?! 1/20th of that would have been AWESOME for basketball NIL.
Mediocre, boring, can't recruit?
The problem with this take is you never know the matchups of an NCAA tournament. Plus it's a one and done format. The tournament as a whole is super entertaining but, to base how successful a season is on these is literally basing the season off of one game. That's too much of a emotional rollercoaster for any rational sports fan.Detmersdislocatedshoulder said:
i think sweet 16 should be the goal bare
minimum. with what this team has coming back and the additions made via th portal tbis will be by far and away the best team buzz has had.
but if it doesn't happen i like what buzz has done with our program. we are relevant again which makes it fun to watch.
Uh, what? I think we might make the Final 4Maroon Dawn said:
I don't think anybody but maybe the most die hard pumper is expecting us to make it to the S16 this year so weird post
Judging and making changes based on what round you make it to in the playoffs is a fool's errand, that a program like ours cannot afford. You have to make the decision based on whether your coach is putting out a good team, and the only way to do that is based on 30+ games of results, not just the last two or three where you're matched up against some other team at some other location virtually at random.
How many seasons in a row would we need to be comfortably in the field but not a protected seed (so 5-10ish seed) and lose our first round game before we'd actually fire a coach? Like at least 6 right?
Someone would have to become the best coach in school history, but then set our floor so high that we start getting bored of it. Like a Rob Childress of basketball.
Someone would have to become the best coach in school history, but then set our floor so high that we start getting bored of it. Like a Rob Childress of basketball.
I mean if you need an example, particularly of using an accomplishment with as much randomness as "make a sweet sixteen" involved, just look at how many people have been tricked by these into thinking Billy Kennedy, a coach who won't get another job, was good because of them.
I don't even know. But yeah something like that. Making the NCAA's consistently every year is my only goal for this program, but also one of my assumptions is that if you're at that level you'll advance (and probably far) in some of those years. Losing in the first round every time, or even the second round every time, would have to reach the point where it becomes an improbable anomaly in and of itself that would cause frustration.bobinator said:
How many seasons in a row would we need to be comfortably in the field but not a protected seed (so 5-10ish seed) and lose our first round game before we'd actually fire a coach? Like at least 6 right?
Someone would have to become the best coach in school history, but then set our floor so high that we start getting bored of it. Like a Rob Childress of basketball.
Outside of a mid-major, how many times has that happened in the past?bobinator said:
How many seasons in a row would we need to be comfortably in the field but not a protected seed (so 5-10ish seed) and lose our first round game before we'd actually fire a coach? Like at least 6 right?
Someone would have to become the best coach in school history, but then set our floor so high that we start getting bored of it. Like a Rob Childress of basketball.
I'd say that a coach would probably bolt to a different situation/school if that were to actually happen.
Kinda made me think of Nebraska in a way. They've lost in every first round they've played in.
If more people watch, the number of annoying fans increases. What a conundrum.Goodbullag142 said:
If we were good people would watch. Buzz doesn't recruit and plays boring basketball. If we got a coach that could recruit people would want to come watch the games.
I have to admit it would be pretty maddening to go dancing every year for 6 years and lose in the first round each year. I have to think that's never been done in the 80 something years of the tournament.bobinator said:
How many seasons in a row would we need to be comfortably in the field but not a protected seed (so 5-10ish seed) and lose our first round game before we'd actually fire a coach? Like at least 6 right?
Someone would have to become the best coach in school history, but then set our floor so high that we start getting bored of it. Like a Rob Childress of basketball.
I went to look it up and didn't find it, but I did find this crazy stat. This would really make Maroon Dawn's head explode.
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- Georgetown is the only team to lose in five consecutive tournament appearances against a team seeded at least five spots lower:
- 2008 (round of 32): No. 10 Davidson 74, No. 2 Georgetown 70.
- 2010 (round of 64): No. 14 Ohio 97, No. 3 Georgetown 83.
- 2011 (round of 64): No. 11 VCU 74, No. 6 Georgetown 56.
- 2012 (round of 32): No. 11 NC State 66, No. 3 Georgetown 63.
- 2013 (round of 64): No. 15 Florida Gulf Coast 78, No. 2 Georgetown 68.
Buzz ain't going anywhere.
Buzz will be the best basketball coach in A&M history if he decides to stay around. Like almost all of his coaching tenures, November December and January, everyone will want to fire Buzz but the team will gradually improve and be firing on all cylinders by the conference tourney. As a result, the team makes March Madness barring any random selection committee screwing.
We have never had enough talent to guarantee Sweet Sixteen ... ever.
We have never had enough talent to guarantee Sweet Sixteen ... ever.
"Can I Ask What Exactly Is An Aggie? Sure! An Aggie is quite simply the best thing anyone can strive to be!" - Sydney Colson
To be fair this is a pretty low bar. He's already one of only three coaches to get us to the tournament two years in a row.czar_iv said:
Buzz will be the best basketball coach in A&M history if he decides to stay around.
His competition for best in school history is Turgeon, who never made the second weekend of the tournament and whose best season resulted in a five seed, and BCG who at this point is almost as much myth as actual results. Who knows what happens if he stays, but he didn't, and what he actually put on paper was a 12-seed-with-an-upset season and the '07 team that's probably the best team in school history.
Shelby coached here for a thousand years and had fewer NCAA Tournament wins than Billy Kennedy did.
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