Does anyone know if there is an easy way to find out what % of our offensive rebounds convert into a bucket (or foul/FTs)?

There is a thread on the Premium Board and the thought has been posed that, for this team, taking "less than ideal" first shots isn't as penal because of our high offensive rebound rate, so I'm interested to know if the stats for us bear that out.

You mean the all-knowing premium boards didn't know how to do this?

Did they know the team with the most points at the end win not the one with best stats?

https://www.coachesclipboard.net/calculating-basketball-oer-der.html

Note orebs aren't explicit in either formula.

It obviously doesn't concern Buzz much that we take some sketchy first shots or he'd have reined in a few guys by now. This is especially true of Taylor, seems like we get half of our points on his misses.

But I have no idea how you'd be able to sort that stat out. You'd have to pull it directly from the play by play and not from the box score.

I do think one thing you're seeing that's a conscious effort compared to last year is that ANY shot is better than a turnover. Our turnover percentage is significantly better than last season.

My guess is that part of the reason why it doesn't concern Buzz (as much as maybe we would like) is because we are scoring at a pretty good rate off offensive rebounds. Knowing how detailed he is on stats, I'm sure that is something they track, because its important if you are going to build an offense based on offensive rebounds.

There's a circular effect here though where if we shot well we wouldn't get (or need) so many offensive rebounds. I don't know where the data is on this but it's commonly accepted that you're more likely to get offensive rebounds on missed threes than twos, and there is nothing we're better at than missing threes.

But then there's this part that you're talking about, how much better are our second shots? How often do we get an easy basket off of the rebound versus ending up passing it back out and starting the offensive possession over. It definitely seems like we do the latter far more often.

If you listen to buzz really talk at all you will hear that he cares ALLOT about the first shot. He is constantly saying that the key to offensive rebounds is taking predictable shots when teammates can anticipate a shot going up. I guess that doesn't necessarily mean the shot is great but it is at least predictable. He HATES shots that come out of the normal context of the offense if that makes sense.

(Posted this in the premium thread but for anyone interested):

The easiest way to extrapolate at least an idea of how are are doing on offensive putbacks is to take our offensive efficiency and work back from there.

Offensive efficiency uses field goals attempted, offensive rebounds, turnovers, free throws attempted, and points scored along with possessions. Basically in one trip with the ball, how many points are you typically getting.

Our offensive efficiency is good (Top 30).

Our field goal % ranking is really, really bad.
Our free throw % ranking is really, really bad.
Our turnover ranking is good.

So if our field goal and free throw shooting are as bad as they are, but our offensive efficiency is Top 30, it means the number of points that we are producing on putbacks is extremely high.

The question will be, will that continue as we get into conference play and the caliber of defensive rebounder improves (Iowa State was the only team we played that had very good rebounding -- Memphis, OSU, Virginia, etc... were all pretty bad), will we be able to offset the decrease in putbacks with an increase in actual FG shooting.

We're not going to go far this year if we continue to have a #271 ranked effective FG% and a #210 ranked FT%. Coleman and Garcia are good at nabbing boards, but poor shooting like that is impossible to overcome in the long-term.

What's weird to me is they track second chance points in the in-game stat broadcast feed but I can't find a ranking of everyone's season totals. That would give you at least something of an idea because you could have some kind of points per offensive rebound stat.

So premium started bragging about rebounding leading into thus game huh? Interesting