https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-men/d1/ncaa-mens-basketball-net-rankings

NET rankings now available.

A&M is #15. ONLY 2 SEC teams in top-15. A&M and Bama at #12.

A&M with 2-2 Quad 1 record. No losses in Quad 2 or lower.

Houston is #1 in NET.

SMU at 84 currently, I think they have a really good shot at ending up in the Top 75, which would be another Q1 win for us.

Memphis at 71 is a little surprising, hopefully they can make a big move up into the Top 30.

Would be nice to get out of OOC play 4-3 in Q1 games.

A win against #1 in NET will go a long way when it comes to seeding time.

If we beat either Memphis or Houston and don't lose to the bad teams that's as good as anyone could have reasonably expected given the lack of Marble and the availability of Boots and Coleman in Orlando. Winning that Iowa State (#13) game is going to keep paying off all season.

That said, there's some interesting results in this first run of the NET. Probably most notable Princeton being in the top ten. KenPom and Torvik like them in the top 100 but 9th is... high.

It'll keep sorting itself out though.

We just can't lose to "Wofford" on Wednesday.

DePaul is at #267.

These SEC teams got a Quad 3 or Quad 4 mark of shame on their NET resume:

Kentucky (Yikes!)
Miss State
Mizzou
LSU
Vandy

Among SEC teams A&M is tied with Miss State right now for most Quad 1 wins (2).

Southeaster 14 basketball power rankings as of today. And they are somewhat baffled.

SEC Basketball Power Rankings: CAN ANYONE BE TRUSTED? - YouTube

NET confirms ranking. Interesting…

My favorite statistic in sports

12/4/23

Given some of the wild rankings in this first release, it kind of feels like they should have waited for a little more data. I guess it will sort itself out and not really matter though.

We have played eight games of roughly a 31 game regular season schedule or roughly 25%. Probably 30-35% gives more ballast to the calculations so they won't swing as wildly. But then you are between 9 and 12 games in. Thirteen is the entire non-conf schedule since we play 18 conf games. It's probably worth the discussion so see it at roughly 25%.

bobinator said:

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If we beat either Memphis or Houston and don't lose to the bad teams that's as good as anyone could have reasonably expected given the lack of Marble and the availability of Boots and Coleman in Orlando. Winning that Iowa State (#13) game is going to keep paying off all season.

That said, there's some interesting results in this first run of the NET. Probably most notable Princeton being in the top ten. KenPom and Torvik like them in the top 100 but 9th is... high.

It'll keep sorting itself out though.

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Cannot state how massive that Iowa State win was for us.

Yup. Season had a chance to go off the rails early if we lost that. Still a chance to slip-up in non-conf (Memphis), but that won't be devastating.

BYU at #2 in the NET (#14 in AP poll).

Just checked their stats, Jaxson Robinson is their top scorer averaging 16.6 ppg with a 43.8 3P%

12/7 Update - Post DePaul

Beat Memphis and we enter conference play in great shape.

weren't we like 100 at this point last year? We were up in the 30s then had 3 losses right before conference and fell to around 110 at the lowest point. We had quite a hill to climb during conference.

phorizt said:

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weren't we like 100 at this point last year? We were up in the 30s then had 3 losses right before conference and fell to around 110 at the lowest point. We had quite a hill to climb during conference.

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The first one I have from last year was on 12/11 and we were #97. This was after our Boise loss, before our Oregon St. win. We were 0-2 vs Q1, 0-0 Q2, 1-1 Q3, 4-0 Q4. Murray St. was still Q3 at the time, they didn't crater until conference play.

The day of the conference opener vs Florida, we were also #97 and had the losses to Memphis and Wofford on the resume as well. When we entered SEC play we weren't even on the NIT bubble.


And then below was our nonconference resume on Selection Sunday.

Man. Another loss and we'd have been pretty puckered. That's horrible.

12/11 Update - post Memphis

12/17 Update - post Houston

3-3 in quad 1? I'll take that. Sure would have been nice to get the Memphis win, but this team is still in a great spot. Much better than last season at this time.

The selection committee has shown they do not care about conference wins, they don't care that much about anything other than did you play power five in non conference.

So losing to Houston was a NET improvement and was a close loss. We need games like that.

greg.w.h said:

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So losing to Houston was a NET improvement and was a close loss. We need games like that.

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NET would much prefer you win games like that over losing games like that.

12/20 Update - post Memphis vs. Virginia - Memphis has now entered Q1 territory

Memphis beat the crap out of Virginia. Too bad we didn't beat at least one of those teams. Glad to see Memphis in Q1, though.

keep Q3 and Q4 Ls at 0
.500 in Q1 will be good
winning record in Q2

frenchtoast said:

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Memphis beat the crap out of Virginia. Too bad we didn't beat at least one of those teams. Glad to see Memphis in Q1, though.

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Ya, we played a pretty big part of their rise to Q1. They jumped 21 spots after our game.

It's a case where had we won they'd be a pretty solid Q2 win

Iowa State at 6 is hilarious. Where do we think they end up? 30-ish?

Ya that sounds about right. They'll probably be a middle of the pack Big 12 team when it's all over.

I posted their results on premium as an example on how you can have an elite NET with a crap SOS. NET of 6 with 0-1 Q1, 2-1 Q2 (VCU & Iowa wins), 0-0 Q3, 7-0 Q4. ..... But they are annihilating their Q4 opponents.



edit: That's an average score of 95.3 - 53.9

Proposition Joe said:

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greg.w.h said:

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So losing to Houston was a NET improvement and was a close loss. We need games like that.

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NET would much prefer you win games like that over losing games like that.

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Certainly. But playing PVAMU with a win at home is a non-NET event for the most part. Especially if peers played better teams.

I like how some folks have been acting like that's gaming the system somehow. You can lose close to really good teams, beat some pretty good teams, and/or smash bad ones. That sounds like how it's supposed to work to me.

greg.w.h said:

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Proposition Joe said:

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greg.w.h said:

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So losing to Houston was a NET improvement and was a close loss. We need games like that.

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NET would much prefer you win games like that over losing games like that.

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Certainly. But playing PVAMU with a win at home is a non-NET event for the most part. Especially if peers played better teams.

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100% agree, even though certain posters told us for years it "didn't really matter" when we played those cupcake schools.