Most conference wins in a 100 years - according to Buzz

Lost to Wofford...so no

Do you even AcieLawIV, bro?

Fair or not, you're not in the conversation unless you win a couple games in the dance. But they've got a chance.

This is a Final 4 team, so yes.

Not unless they make the sweet 16. Then they're in the discussion.

Haha. As is often the case, I don't agree with you.

The chemistry and connectedness of this team and this coaching staff is unmatched in the history of Texas Aggie Men's Basketball.

They ARE the best TEAM we have ever put on the floor - regardless of results.

Now, let's BTHO the SECT to get the autobid and a 4 seed - and then, like last year's NIT tournament team, keep beating our opponents until we find ourselves playing in the finals - except this year in Houston rather than NYC!!!

Fanatic15...Drs2B! said:

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Haha. As is often the case, I don't agree with you.

The chemistry and connectedness of this team and this coaching staff is unmatched in the history of Texas Aggie Men's Basketball.

They ARE the best TEAM we have ever put on the floor - regardless of results.

Now, let's BTHO the SECT to get the autobid and a 4 seed - and then, like last year's NIT tournament team, keep beating our opponents until we find ourselves playing in the finals - except this year in Houston rather than NYC!!!

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Disagree. Tournament results are all that matter.

Fanatic15...Drs2B! said:

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Haha. As is often the case, I don't agree with you.

The chemistry and connectedness of this team and this coaching staff is unmatched in the history of Texas Aggie Men's Basketball.

They ARE the best TEAM we have ever put on the floor - regardless of results.

Now, let's BTHO the SECT to get the autobid and a 4 seed - and then, like last year's NIT tournament team, keep beating our opponents until we find ourselves playing in the finals - except this year in Houston rather than NYC!!!

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This team is not better than the 79-80 team. Not by any measure. Now, if this team wins a few NCAA games. then it's closer!!

I don't think they're all that matter, but you can't be in the mix for best ever if you immediately get bounced.

Good conference record, but you can't just pretend the non con didn't happen or that the postseason doesn't matter.

I'd still lean '07 and '16 for now.

bobinator said:

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I don't think they're all that matter, but you can't be in the mix for best ever if you immediately get bounced.

Good conference record, but you can't just pretend the non con didn't happen or that the postseason doesn't matter.

I'd still lean '06 and '16 for now.

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So not the 79-80 team? Why not?

SWC title. Lost in OT in Sweet 16 to eventual national Champs.

Because I wasn't alive back then to see it.

It's close but I think that '06 team was better

bobinator said:

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Fair or not, you're not in the conversation unless you win a couple games in the dance. But they've got a chance.

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They are 'in the mix' right now.

Best 2 teams in 2000's were the 2006-2007 team (Acie Law All-American PG led) and then the 2015-2016 team with Caruso, House, Jones senior trio plus a nice looking freshman class (Tyler Davis, Gilder, Hogg, etc.).

I'd rank them in that order.

Both the above teams made the Sweet Sixteen.

The former went 13-3 in the Big 12 and lost first game in Big 12 tournament. Famously the day after that upset loss Gillispie cancelled practice, telling the players 'The next lost will be your last'.

The latter team was SEC Co-Champion with 13-5 regular season SEC record and made the champ game in the SEC Title game (lost to Kentucky).

This team has had as impressive or more impressive conference regular season than either of the above two teams. 15-3 which is most regular season conference wins in school history including big-time home wins over Tennessee and Bama.

This team has nearly as impressive trio of guards (Taylor, Dennis, Radford) as 2006-2007 IMO. I've been on the record that Taylor is the best PG we've had since Law and Dennis is every bit the tough defender as Kirk and Radford different player but as impactful as Carter.

If they have a great post-season (let's say at least 1 win in SECT and then makes Sweet Sixteen), I'd rank their season right up there with the 2006-2007 group (and better than 2015-2016).

They exceed even that bar...getting to Elite Eight or farther...I think you'd have to rank them as best season ever. the Wofford loss in December would be an irrelevant foot note and 'turning point' story given how amazing the conference season and post-season was.

Law Kirk Carter Jones Kav - more firepower not quite as strong on D
but the young depth on that squad Sloan Roland Davis Elonu
legit Final 4 contender

Against Memphis If acie didn't blow a wide open layup, a phantom foul called on Sloan or a 50% FT shooter bury both of them…that A&M squad goes to the final four imo. (Ifs and buts I know)

I watched a lot of that Ohio state team and we had several big bodies we could rotate on oden and while Conlley was exceptional we had maybe the best defender in school history in D. Kirk on him. Outside of oden and connley that Ohio state squad was meh. Add in 40K Aggies in San Antonio fighting to go to the final 4 and I think we pull it off. That 06-07 squad had virtually no major deficiencies and once in the final four anything could happen and we absolutely could have won it all.

I think this team is very good but this team is also somewhat matchup dependent. I could see is making a run to the elite 8 but go up against a tall, lengthy roster and would could also get bounced round 1

Dave Goff, David Britain, Rynn Wright, Vernon Smith and Rudy Woods say Hello.

Taylor, Dennis, Radford maybe not quite at the same level as Law, Kirk, and Carter IMO....but its really close. I'd give the edge to 2006-2007 team mostly because Law was the 2-years more experienced version of Taylor.

This current team, the trio of guards it has is pretty special.

polander ag81 said:

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Dave Goff, David Britain, Rynn Wright, Vernon Smith and Rudy Woods say Hello.

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I have a hard time myself trying to compare teams that played in different eras. The game itself has so many differences.

Make SWEET 16 or all of this is fluffy.

polander ag81 said:

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Dave Goff, David Britain, Rynn Wright, Vernon Smith and Rudy Woods say Hello.

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Yep.

bobinator said:

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Because I wasn't alive back then to see it.

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Well that team was better UNLESS this team gets to the Elite 8. But my opinion of teams back then is a tad slanted.

I think the biggest difference, is with that 06-07 team, I expected them to win every game. That was our best team in my opinion, they were a mature team that was totally bought into what the team needed to do to win. That team lost 7 games total, and other than the road game at LSU that was a 12 point loss, the other 6 losses came by a combined 11 points.

Our most talented team is probably the Caruso/House/Jones/Gilder/Davis/Hogg team, but that particular team didn't have the same feel that the 06-07 team did. The 15-16 team was blown out 3 times, and even had a stretch where they lost 5 of 6 during conference play. Sweet 16 was a great result, but that team just wasn't quite the same as 06-07.

The 06-07 team should have, and really did have themselves in position to beat Memphis barring the comedy of errors that happened in the last minute. With the games being played in San Antonio, it would have been interesting to see how that team would have matched up against Ohio State. I have no doubt though that we could have kept it close, and Acie Law would have had the opportunity to do something special.

With that said though, the 06-07 team wasn't going to win the title, Florida was winning almost no matter what that year.

Sarcasm? Not even close.

The 79-80 Sweet 16 game was in Houston. The Elite 8 game also would have been in Houston.

That team had a great chance to make the final 4 that year. The OT loss to Louisville was so close to a Sweet 16 win.

GenericAggie said:

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Sarcasm? Not even close.

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I don't think an Aggie team has ever won 15 conference games.

In my opinion this team is not as talented as several teams mentioned. This team plays , better , however in critical moments. I don't ever remember an Aggie team that shoots free throws as well as this team, and that fact has allowed them to win a number of close games. It remains to be seen if they can advance further than any Aggie teAm. I would not count them out of any game.

We once had a team where Deandre Jordon was a bench player.

Deepest and most complete team I think.
2 tourney wins and they are top 3 minimum and easy to argue best. Go beyond that to make the arguments moot.

aggiebones said:

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Deepest and most complete team I think.
2 tourney wins and they are top 3 minimum and easy to argue best. Go beyond that to make the arguments moot.

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Better than a team that won a regular season and tournament title? And then lost in Sweet 16?

If they win 2, they're right up there. If they win 3, they're in a league of their own in Aggie history.

The 1980 team already mentioned was capable of winning a National title imo. They took the eventual National Champion Louisville to OT in the sweet 16. Louisville had no close games after that on their title run. If this team gets to the elite 8 or better they will be in the running imo . The BCG coached teams that lost to UCLA and the one that lost to Memphis are probably in the discussion as well. From a talent standpoint the Kennedy coached teams that made the Sweet 16 were really good as well but as far as team play not as good as the aforementioned 4 teams imo.

That's a bit misleading because of what college basketball used to look like. When the 3 point line was closer, the lane was always packed, and rim running bigs and traditional bigs didn't really have a place like they do now, especially when they were freshmen. Deandre was always going to be better in the pros for that reason.

I mean, Joel Embiid only averaged 11 a game at Kansas as a freshman, the college game just used to be pretty unfriendly to bigs. The most shots Embiid took in a game was only 9.

In that era of college ball, the only bigs that were impact guys were those that could play bully ball with a mature body. Even now, freshman bigs take a year or two to get used to banging in there with guys that are their same size.

polander ag81 said:

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Dave Goff, David Britain, Rynn Wright, Vernon Smith and Rudy Woods say Hello.

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This is still the right answer.

halfastros81 said:

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The 1980 team already mentioned was capable of winning a National title imo. They took the eventual National Champion Louisville to OT in the sweet 16. Louisville had no close games after that on their title run. If this team gets to the elite 8 or better they will be in the running imo . The BCG coached teams that lost to UCLA and the one that lost to Memphis are probably in the discussion as well. From a talent standpoint the Kennedy coached teams that made the Sweet 16 were really good as well but as far as team play not as good as the aforementioned 4 teams imo.

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Dave Goff!

And we all say goodbye