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Method Man said:

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He's an idiot? Compared to whom? What prominent opinion sports journalists would you say is not an idiot?

Him being black and occasionally saying negative things about blacks people is why he's hated so much by some and liked so much by others. It's completely relevant. See Candace Owens comment.

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Bomani Jones ****s on Whitlock when it comes to intelligence. Whitlock has brainworms, if you can't see that, I genuinely feel bad for you.

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wow, this dude said bomani jones. forget the fact he unnecessarily hates on TAMU and is even quicker to pull the race card than stephen A. He's just not intelligent or objective in any way, shape or form. I've listened and watched a lot of bomani (unfortunately) over the years and I'm honestly shocked anyone that isn't a Lebron stan or a zealous God-hating far left leftist could walk away thinking that guy presented any value to the planet whatsoever.

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Bomani is clearly an intelligent individual. The inane drivel in posts like this makes me proud to be on the opposite side of most in this thread.

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Ha cool man, I think you'd have probably enjoyed Austin more than c stat

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zgolfz85 said:

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wacarnolds said:

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Method Man said:

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He's an idiot? Compared to whom? What prominent opinion sports journalists would you say is not an idiot?

Him being black and occasionally saying negative things about blacks people is why he's hated so much by some and liked so much by others. It's completely relevant. See Candace Owens comment.

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Bomani Jones ****s on Whitlock when it comes to intelligence. Whitlock has brainworms, if you can't see that, I genuinely feel bad for you.

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wow, this dude said bomani jones. forget the fact he unnecessarily hates on TAMU and is even quicker to pull the race card than stephen A. He's just not intelligent or objective in any way, shape or form. I've listened and watched a lot of bomani (unfortunately) over the years and I'm honestly shocked anyone that isn't a Lebron stan or a zealous God-hating far left leftist could walk away thinking that guy presented any value to the planet whatsoever.

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Bomani is clearly an intelligent individual. The inane drivel in posts like this makes me proud to be on the opposite side of most in this thread.

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Ha cool man, I think you'd have probably enjoyed Austin more than c stat

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I don't hold this site against my beloved university. I have always and will continue to have a great time in Aggieland.

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Method Man said:

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He's an idiot? Compared to whom? What prominent opinion sports journalists would you say is not an idiot?

Him being black and occasionally saying negative things about blacks people is why he's hated so much by some and liked so much by others. It's completely relevant. See Candace Owens comment.

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Bomani Jones ****s on Whitlock when it comes to intelligence. Whitlock has brainworms, if you can't see that, I genuinely feel bad for you.

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I definitely know who not to take seriously about anything ever on this board (or any other forum for that matter) moving forward. Now THIS is what has to be a bit.

Page 2 and exactly two replies that even mentions Brandon Miller. OK now three replies with this one. But at least now I can say I've heard of Bomani Jones if anybody ever asks

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There lots not to like (sarcasm) about Whitlock:

He's a black with (now) conservative views.
He (now) espouses Christianity.
He's a he.
He (now) doesn't parrot the woke narrative.

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I agree with Whitlock's takes a fair amount of the time. I've also followed him for years and years. His most recent character change seemed conveniently timed with the political winds, he was studying Clay Travis' own character change and the lucrative success it was bringing him, and also because he was running out of traditional media options who wanted to deal with him.

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That's a pretty cynical take...what is your evidence/rationale for questioning Whitlock's sincerity? I don't see it.

Is anyone else confused with his ( Whitlock's) timeline re: Daryl Miller's departure from playing football at Alabama in the early 90's to return home to raise his son (implied to be Brandon), but Brandon was not born until ~ 2004. Was he talking about Brandon's older brother? That left me puzzled.

Here's a different way to look at it:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/alabama-clouds-darken-over-brandon-miller-crimson-tide/ar-AA17ZK6E?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=U531&cvid=d59910aa5a714e2c88795867b59d2b9d&ei=20

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Bunk Moreland said:

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TyperWoods said:

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There lots not to like (sarcasm) about Whitlock:

He's a black with (now) conservative views.
He (now) espouses Christianity.
He's a he.
He (now) doesn't parrot the woke narrative.

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I agree with Whitlock's takes a fair amount of the time. I've also followed him for years and years. His most recent character change seemed conveniently timed with the political winds, he was studying Clay Travis' own character change and the lucrative success it was bringing him, and also because he was running out of traditional media options who wanted to deal with him.

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That's a pretty cynical take...what is your evidence/rationale for questioning Whitlock's sincerity? I don't see it.

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Cynical? Do you know anything about Whitlock before his brief stint at Outkick and then his ultimate move to The Blaze when he crossed over into the political realm? Honest question.

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Here's a different way to look at it:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/alabama-clouds-darken-over-brandon-miller-crimson-tide/ar-AA17ZK6E?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=U531&cvid=d59910aa5a714e2c88795867b59d2b9d&ei=20

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Great article and probably the best I've seen out there. It's spot on, can't dis with anything I read there

The best thing to read is the police report. There's no doubt of the part Miles played. And it ain't innocent.

Maybe I'm off on the facts, but why is the other player charged with murder and Miller isn't charged with anything? Didn't the other player (Miles) also hand the weapon to the actual shooter? Do you only get in trouble if you are the person who hands the murder weapon to the shooter and not the person who hands it to that person? Any legal basis for that?

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Maybe I'm off on the facts, but why is the other player charged with murder and Miller isn't charged with anything? Didn't the other player (Miles) also hand the weapon to the actual shooter? Do you only get in trouble if you are the person who hands the murder weapon to the shooter and not the person who hands it to that person? Any legal basis for that?

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Because Miller is really, really good at basketball.

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The best thing to read is the police report. There's no doubt of the part Miles played. And it ain't innocent.

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agreed

One thing is for sure.....he's one and DONE with Alabama.

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One thing is for sure.....he's one and DONE with Alabama.

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And that has nothing to do with this murder. He'd be one & done at Dook or KU as well.

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Maybe I'm off on the facts, but why is the other player charged with murder and Miller isn't charged with anything? Didn't the other player (Miles) also hand the weapon to the actual shooter? Do you only get in trouble if you are the person who hands the murder weapon to the shooter and not the person who hands it to that person? Any legal basis for that?

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Miles clearly has a much bigger role. He was there when the initial altercation took place. Miller wasn't. It was Miles' gun, not Miller's. Miles gave the gun to the trigger puller, not Miller. Its an open question whether what Miller did rises to the level of criminal, but Miles clearly is the more involved of the two.

Also, everyone wants to look at this thing from like the CSI level of investigating physical evidence, but in my experience from reading about true crime and a jury that Ive been on etc, it really seems like the vast majority of of the police work is how the suspect themselves incriminate themselves. If they lie and change their story and give bad information and then admit to something that incriminating statement becomes something that can be used as proof that something happened where normally the police would have to prove it. The difference between the two could be as simple as Miller gave the police nothing and Miles incriminated himself with his story. It could also be that Miller is a corroborating witness that would ensure the conviction of the other two while charging him would mean endangering the case on the others and maybe they would end up with no convictions. Testimonies and statements may be more important than physical evidence, especially in a case where you're talking about guns being fired both directions.

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Bunk Moreland said:

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TyperWoods said:

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There lots not to like (sarcasm) about Whitlock:

He's a black with (now) conservative views.
He (now) espouses Christianity.
He's a he.
He (now) doesn't parrot the woke narrative.

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I agree with Whitlock's takes a fair amount of the time. I've also followed him for years and years. His most recent character change seemed conveniently timed with the political winds, he was studying Clay Travis' own character change and the lucrative success it was bringing him, and also because he was running out of traditional media options who wanted to deal with him.

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That's a pretty cynical take...what is your evidence/rationale for questioning Whitlock's sincerity? I don't see it.

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Cynical? Do you know anything about Whitlock before his brief stint at Outkick and then his ultimate move to The Blaze when he crossed over into the political realm? Honest question.

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I remember when he was a sports reporter/commentator. Used to watch him on ESPN programming, but it was long ago and I don't recall much about him. What is your point?

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You lost me at Jason Whitlock.

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He's a lunatic.

wacarnolds said:

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zgolfz85 said:

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wacarnolds said:

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Method Man said:

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He's an idiot? Compared to whom? What prominent opinion sports journalists would you say is not an idiot?

Him being black and occasionally saying negative things about blacks people is why he's hated so much by some and liked so much by others. It's completely relevant. See Candace Owens comment.

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Bomani Jones ****s on Whitlock when it comes to intelligence. Whitlock has brainworms, if you can't see that, I genuinely feel bad for you.

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wow, this dude said bomani jones. forget the fact he unnecessarily hates on TAMU and is even quicker to pull the race card than stephen A. He's just not intelligent or objective in any way, shape or form. I've listened and watched a lot of bomani (unfortunately) over the years and I'm honestly shocked anyone that isn't a Lebron stan or a zealous God-hating far left leftist could walk away thinking that guy presented any value to the planet whatsoever.

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Bomani is clearly an intelligent individual. The inane drivel in posts like this makes me proud to be on the opposite side of most in this thread.

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Congrats, you can be an intelligent fool lacking wisdom. Sorry, but your condition is almost impossible to cure.

I have no reason to question Whitlock's sincerity. Are you implying he's a charlatan? I think not, but "change my mind".

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You lost me at Jason Whitlock.

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He's a lunatic.

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Ad hominems are worthless. They say much more about you than him.

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I have no reason to question Whitlock's sincerity. Are you implying he's a charlatan? I think not, but "change my mind".

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Whitlock has always been a contrarian. That's his shtick. He just moves with the social/cultural trends, settles in and plays against the more popular movement/ideas of sports culture and journalism, but he changes his personality to match. He did this back when he was constantly on PTI and the Jim Rome shows, then he'd pretend to be high-brow and go on Sports Reporters.

In the 90's/00's when sports journalists tried to portray being sports versions of Edward R Murrow, he would openly discuss how much he loved strip clubs, strippers and buffets. When certain aspects of culture would get more wild, he'd call out colleagues as not being professional.

He generally has left every stop on bad terms with his employer. When "anti trump" became the new fad in not just the sports world but the US culture of news and media...chameleons like Clay Travis recognized a new audience to cash in on by swimming against the tide.

Whitlock quickly followed suit...even joining him at Outkick before splitting off on murky terms 6 months later. During the transition over to Outkick and ultimately Blaze, all the sudden he found Jesus so much more important not just in his life but in his writings. Now i'm happy for anyone who gets closer to Jesus in their life, but help me out by telling me if you think people who read/watch/listen to Blaze media value Jesus more than people who watch Speak for Yourself with Colin Cowherd, read Playboy articles, etc.

Again he often makes good points, and has made many good points and written thought provoking articles over the last 20+ years. But his newest persona is absolutely fueled by his need/desire to make money because he burns a lot of bridges as he moves along in his career. Finding Jesus and playing the politically conservative black american journalist in a world of woke black journalists was mostly a business decision imo.

Up to you to decide where you land. Just keep that in mind when every word in his article hits you perfectly. It may be for a reason.

I haven't followed him that closely, although I remember him on the shows you mentioned. I don't pretend to know what makes him tick, and I'm not a huge fan of Clay Travis (who admitted to voting for Obama TWICE!), but you've not convinced me Whitlock is anything but sincere in his positions. That said, I think he may be overly generous to Brandon Miller. I'm still confused about the timeline he presented regarding his father's departure from the Bama football program in the early 90's.

You're never going to be convinced by anything I said because his new persona strikes you perfectly. And that's ok. I didn't expect I'd change your opinion.

I'm pretty good at recognizing phonies. I don't believe JW is, but I could be wrong. I've seen him appear on Tucker Carlson and he's been solid with his takes on social issues. In the end, he's saying the right things, even if he is insincere. And that's a good thing!

Who has an hour in their life to watch/listen to this....or even the 20 minutes to read a thread about the listening to it....or the 30 seconds to comment on both?

Cobra39

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I haven't followed him that closely, although I remember him on the shows you mentioned. I don't pretend to know what makes him tick, and I'm not a huge fan of Clay Travis (who admitted to voting for Obama TWICE!), but you've not convinced me Whitlock is anything but sincere in his positions. That said, I think he may be overly generous to Brandon Miller. I'm still confused about the timeline he presented regarding his father's departure from the Bama football program in the early 90's.

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the fact clay voted for obama twice and then changed sides should make you respect him more, right? It certainly did in my case. We need a lot more folks to follow reason and logic rather than be stuck in their lifetime partisan ride or die ways.

While I see your point, I don't share your same level of admiration, although Clay is growing on me, as I listen to him speak now. I would need to know his rationale for his previous support, but I'm naturally skeptical, despite Bunk's failure to give me credit for it vis a vis Jason Whitlock.

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While I see your point, I don't share your same level of admiration, although Clay is growing on me, as I listen to him speak now. I would need to know his rationale for his previous support, but I'm naturally skeptical, despite Bunk's failure to give me credit for it vis a vis Jason Whitlock.

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yeah agree and I know this isn't MBB related anymore, but from what I know (only separated by a couple of degrees from him personally and know several of his childhood friends), I think it was largely the classic tale of teens into college years where you have to "rebel" against the old guard and being a liberal has been way more "hip" for several decades now. I think his shift is largely organic in now being on several sides of the biz world and legal world, including owning several companies, being a dad, etc. I'm sure being in the Vandy law program didn't help either, so probably took him years to undo that indoctrination.

Most people with a brain shift to at least the middle after their rebellion period wears off when they start to recognize how the world actually works. So, I actually admire him more for admitting his previous flawed and lazy logic. Also, he might still be considered left today had the left not shifted so far left to bat **** crazy levels. He's honestly in my eyes still a centrist at best, but to the world he's now a hardcore conservative because that's how far we've come.

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I've not seen nor read this from him. Good to know. I don't disagree with anything you've posted. He'll never replace Rush, but he's good (if wordy) at articulating the Conservative point of view. I'm glad he bats for the good guys!