Billy Gillespie ...

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jgeiser
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voting for Gillespie.. Texas ties will make a big difference in recruiting and this cannot be overlooked going forward. Also, from all indications he is a respected game-day coach.

I like that we are all aggressive/confident enough to feel we can get a big name coach, but it is simply unreasonable - Gillespie is the choice..

we are the sleeping giant...
chick79
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My concern is that he may not want to leave UTEP......
OPAG
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As I said before I don't know if he the guy, I'm also don't know that he is not the guy either.

I do know that he is not Barone, Watkins or Kermit. He is different he brings a different set of skills and personality to A&M.

He has been tutored, as has been stated already, has deep roots in Texas. Is energtic, stresses team and fundamentals and has pleasent personality but has plenty of competitve fire.

Can we get someone better, frankly I don't know. Gillispie may be the perfect match for A&M. I would not in anyway be sad or disappointed in this hire if it comes down.

If Gillispie is sucessful here he is lifer and will be a great Ag. It would be interesting to see what a good coach and player manager can do with Wright, Law, Blanks and Jones and some other decent roll players!

To be honest with you, I am looking forward to it. Gillispie seems to have the necessary qualities to get the job done. Question is will the players listed above buy into him I am sure Law and Blanks will and probably Jones, the question is Wright, that young man is going through a lot right now.

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rwtxag83
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If he had long term ties to UTEP, or they were a big time school with tremendous up potential, I would share your concern, but I think given that hes been an assistant at larger more major schools before I think we have a very good shot.

For those of you who are not believers, look at his record--not the overall, but how he has turned things around everywhere he's been in rapid or record time.

Check out the UTEP athletics website. It shows his bio and results. This guy is who and what we need...now.

Greater love hath no man than this...
Sgt. Schultz
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I have come aroundon the potential Gillespie hire. Sure its not the BIG name we are clamoring for but some of the $$ saved can be used to improve the environment & home court advantage of Reed. That will take away one more thing alot of people complain about.

He appears to have very good x's and o's skills, has good ties to the state, has been at big time programs as asst. OPAG posted a good thread yesterday - I suggest some of you read it.

http://texags.com/main/forum.reply.asp?topic_id=311026&forum_id=7
XL2Win
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Gillespie may be the man, but I doubt he's had an interview much less an offer.

I don't think this search is over yet.

Excellence First ...
Whaler
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How about Tom Penders...
He turned tu around, can recruit, coaches an exciting style of basketball, and may relish the opportunity to prove tu wrong for running him off.

"Son, you've obviously been concentrating too much on one subject!" -- Shelby Metcalf to a basketball player upon reviewing his official grade report containing one "D" and the rest "F's"
mock1
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Im not saying Gallespie couldnt turn this thing around but Watkins led UNC Charlotte to the sweet sixteen before we hired him. I want a coach who has a proven record of a bigger program. We have the money to give so I think we should go after the big boys.
XL2Win
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Tom ... is that you ???

Penders can coach but he's got a huge black mark on him in the state of Texas.

I'd much rather have Eustachy

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superunknown
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Personally, I'm not sold he's the guy.

And I couldn't care less if he's from Texas. Is Rick Barnes from Texas? Is Bobby Knight?
Is Coach K from North Carolina? Was John Wooden from L.A.?

I think A&M can and should do better...a bigger name. I'd like for Byrne to send a message to the Big 12 and other D-1 Texas schools that he's serious about Texas A&M men's basketball. There's a lot of big names that aren't coaching right now. And there's a lot of big names that might just have an ear open to a potential basketball powerhouse.

It never hurts to ask. It's kinda sad to me that people are settling for an 'up and coming' coach at a mid major just because he's from Texas and he's had a couple of good years for a no-name school. If you don't want to go fishing for a big name coach, fine. Let's just wait till Sunday when the brackets are announced, and wait for all those 8-14 seeds to get bounced quick so we can steal us a coach.

Wonderful.

hank92
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Why does everyone assume we are not trying to get a big name coach. It is possible we have tried and been snubbed multiple times.
LawHall88
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Anyone who assumes Bill Byrne is not doing his homework and making contacts isn't giving him much credit, are they?

We can only hire one guy - doesn't mean that was the only guy we talked to.
XL2Win
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Law ...

I KNOW he's not the only guy we've talked to, but we haven't really hit the effort hard because they are waiting to officially release Melvin. That's handicapping our capacity to do serious negotiations. We're floating some "what ifs" out there, but we are not likely to be able to crank it up until Melvin is terminated.

Bad news is we'll lose some POSSIBLE opportunities, like Kruger.

Good news is we MAY get some fringe benefit from holding to our contractual obligation.

Excellence First ...
old yeller
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Interesting talk being floated about Knight going to Ohio State. Then watch all the posters on this board pi$$ and moan if Tech goes and hires Gillespie. The guy sounds good to me. Lets hire him.
hank92
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Nice reply in a post about gillespie on agtimes

http://www.agtimes.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=26515&start=26

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Gillespie took over UTEP's storied program from Jason Rabedeaux. In a few short years "Rab" had absolutely destroyed the program. He subsequently abandoned it in a heap of controversy a few weeks before the first game of the season. When Gillespie took over he had 8 players of which only six saw PT. None of the six would have started for a WAC opponent. It was pretty sad really. Don Haskin's legacy had sunk to depths most El Pasoans couldn't recognize.

But despite being outmatched and outmanned in every game, the Miners showed up ready to play--- hustling and diving for loose balls even when 20 down and under a minute to play. It was kind of like taking on the school yard bully and refusing to quit even after taking a beating. They managed to keep most games close and probably would have finished above .500 if they'd had more players. They finished last in the WAC with only 4 wins but were as fun to watch as any team in the country.

At season end Gillespie immediately brought in an impressive group of assistants on a very limited budget. Equally important, he brought in jc talent that any program would love to have. And despite their inexperience thev've managed to lose only 4 games in a WAC conference that will have 4 teams finish their seasons with 20+ wins.

Gillespie is unmarried and has no children. He eats, sleeps and breathes basketball and has a work ethic ala Fran. He surrounds himself with impressive assistants and can recruit with the best of them. He is an excellent game day couch and, most importantly, he will not put a team on the court that is not better prepared, better conditioned and plays with more heart than any opponent.

I grew up in the era of Don Haskins, Tim Hardaway and Antonio Davis and this is as exciting a Miner squad as I've ever seen.
XL2Win
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This is all interesting as kudos are heaped on Gillespie for his "instant" success with JUCO talent, while so very many trashed that concept here four or five years ago, heaping praise on Melvin for "doing it the right way." Of course Melvin eventually succumbed to the JUCO influence when he was unable to develop his recruited talent.



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[This message has been edited by XL2Win (edited 3/5/2004 4:27p).]
hank92
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Actually the two things that I took from that post that I liked were:

1) Hired good assistants: Melvin needed more knowledge on his bench and he either couldn't get it, or was intimidated by it.

2) Game day coach

XL2Win
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Again, I think you need to interview several candidates rather than just jumping at the first guy who doesn't give you a flat "no".

I still believe that Byrne will be more systematic in his approach than what we are seeing here.

Excellence First ...
OPAG
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Well, here is my thinking on the situation in general.

As frustrated fans of Aggie basketball we are quite jaded by our rather unsuccesful past.

So therefore, being true Ags and Texans with alot of pride, we feel embarrased. On top of that our rivals are doing quite well that's a double problem. So the pain and build up of a bruised ego with losing is pretty big!

So what we want to do know is bow up and make a big statement, a splash that will make the media and the sips rise up and take notice!

Truth be known I could care less about the media and the sips or making a splash. I want to find a guy that will quietly come in here and build a program and develop the talent we have and bring other talent here to A&M.

On top of our humiliation we have been emotionally 'burned' by these 'up and comers' and we now have a bad mentality towards them. It's like this.

You tell a guy who has never had an apple that apples are good. You get him to try one, he some what innocently grabs one and bites it and low and behold he hits a worm! Well that's not very pleasent. The dude gets angry at you. You calm him down and you get him to try again, well this time he picks and apple and he bites into a bruise. Yuk! He says fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me!

Well, you try to explain that apples are still good but he is not so convinced. Finally he gets over the pain and tries again being carefully he looks for worms, looks for bruises and then bites the apple and yuk it isn't ripe. That's it he says. No more apples. All apples are bad!! It;s not true but he is convinced it is.

That's what we have here. The truth is that there are good apples. Yea maybe, Kermit, Barone and Davis were all bad apples for differing reasons. However to say that Gillispie is bad because, like Kermit, Barone and Watkins, he is an 'apple' is just faulty logic.

Just like the logci that says, going out and getting Eustachy or a big name coach is going to guarantee a winner. It's not. There are lot of elements that go in here. There are big name coaches that are not working right now for reasons. Slocum was a big name coach, but would not be considered a good hire for many programs for a number of reasons. It's hard to say how succesful Slocum would be in a program in football program like, let's say Illinois.

See some big names inherited good programs. They may great at maintaining good programs but horrible at comming in and turning down programs around. They also may have let the game and the style of kids pass them by, like Shelby Metcalf.

In this situation Gillispie may be the right apple.

1. He has a good background was turtored and understudied under a good coach. Was successful at the HS level, as an asst. at the mid conf level, as an asst at the major conference level. (this is important he knows the pressure, competitiion and expectation of a major conference and yes the Big 10 is a major conference and Ill is primarily a basketball school) He now has turned around a program from worse to first.

2. He has Texas roots

3. Is considered a good recruiter. He got top jucos to come to UTEP. Look every top program has some top juco players from time to time. He didn't get those guys at UTEP because nobody else wanted them. He had to win em.

4. He is an energetic, hard working, team oriented guy, who is young and hungry. His ego reputation will not compete with the University for top billing, ie ttech.

5. He'll be very familar with A&M, where we have been who we are and where we want to go. As he was a native here and surely is not oblivious to who we are.

The anti Gillispie crowd hasn't given one legitimate reason why this wouldn't be a good hire except to say that he's an "apple".

You guys need to do better than that!




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old yeller
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Outstanding, OPAG. I like the way you think. For most, it's easier to complain rather than to take a good look at the candidate. And anyone who thinks Byrne is "jumping on the first guy who doesn't say no" is just plain dumb.

I think there is a good chance that it will be Gillespie. I also think there is a good chance that it will be someone who has never been mentioned on this board. Byrne is one-for-one with me based on his Blair hire. Until he gives me reason to doubt him, I will have confidence that he will land a very good coach.

Regarding the claims that he is waiting for the season to play out and show respect to Melvin and this caused us to miss out on Kruger...GIVE ME A BREAK.

[This message has been edited by old yeller (edited 3/5/2004 9:19p).]
Gabriel Belmont
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Get me Roy Williams!!
XL2Win
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Actually I think the ONE year of success as a head coach IS a reason to take pause.

I don't want to be here six years from now saying we should have taken that FACT under more consideration.

AGAIN ... not saying no to Gillespie, just I want to shop around some more first.

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XL2Win
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Yeller ... I wasn't trying to imply that Byrne was jumping on the first guy that wouldn't say no. I was trying to impress that Byrne is still in the early stages of the search and that he's NOT going to take the first guy that doesn't say no. He's going to do a systematic, thorough search.

I also agree there's a pretty good chance that it will not be one of the "obvious" choices bantered about on this forum.

But I will stick by guns and tell you that Kruger expressed some interest. If he's still around when the hammer drops (i.e., the UNLV deal doesn't materialize) I think we'll get serious about talking to him. Rather he ends up as the HC remains to be seen. It's a long shot at this point but not impossible.

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old yeller
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XL, assuming Gillespie is hired, and further assuming that he doesn't get the job done, I don't think it will be SIX YEARS before we are "here again." After all, this is Byrne not wally.

Sometimes an AD has to take a gamble. If those gambles work, hiring an "up and comer" (i.e. Stoops) vs a "proven winner" (i.e. Schnellenberger), the AD is a genius. If not, he is in the search mode again.

Byrne also has to take into account if he hired Kruger and he is successful, would he haul ass after two or three years. Kruger (who has been my #1 target) does have a lot of stickers on his suitcase.

Contrast that to a young "up-and-comer" like Gillespie, who can basically build the program from a demolition site and make it "his program." As a native Texan, with deep Texas coaching roots (HS, JUCO, D-1), Gillespie might be happy to stay in Aggieland for the long haul (unlike a Kruger).

Again, these are all factors that the AD must weigh. And, again, I have confidence in Byrne. Bottom line, I am ready for new blood. Any new blood (as long as it is not Dickey).
OPAG
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You'll get a hardy amen out of me on the Dickey comment. NO NO please.
Third Son
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I mean now, now! Gillespie sounds like the most reasonable guy to me.

Just think, even if we started the season with a retarded crack ***** as our head coach, we still would have had either the same or a better record than we do now.
XL2Win
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Yeller,

I respect your position, and you are certainly right about Kruger being well-travelled, but I'd rather hire a known winner than take still another gamble. We've had 3 gambles and if we take a winner and he moves on in 2 or 3 years, we'll be better off, IMHO, than if we have to suffer through another four years of another Bozo-the-Clown-who-we-thought-might-be-a-good-hire coach.

If we can't get Kruger or Few, then mark me down for Eustachy. Gillespie's fine as a backup if we can't get our top three or four candidates, but he doesn't strike me as somebody that should be our top guy. For all the raves about his Texas recruiting skills, take a look at the home-state makeup of his team.

Excellence First ...

[This message has been edited by XL2Win (edited 3/7/2004 7:42a).]
Ishmael-Ag
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A rose is still a rose by any other name. A Melvin is still a Melvin by any other name (Tony, Kermit the Frog or Billy). I agree with JDL. If that is the best we can do-end the program now.
XL2Win
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Almost anybody has to be better than Melvin ... so while Gillespie would not be at the top of my list (without the benefit of personal interviews), he would HAVE to be an improvement.

I'll support Aggie basketball as long as I know that we have relentlessly pursued the best available and interested coaches.

If I were to find out that we simply took an "easy" hire, then that would do it for me. However, I remain confident that will not be the approach taken by Byrne.

Excellence First ...
Gorgoroth
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quote:
Billy Gillespie ... we should just shut the program down if we really plan on hiring him.
RPTS_AG_07
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It's funny how so many people were wrong about the hire, I'm so glad we got Gillespie, best coach in Aggieland by far!

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zoomu2219
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This thread makes me lmfao.
tamu05ag
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That is a good find. However, I shall not roast because at least they were talking aggie basketball back then.
1876er
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Wish we woulda gone for the double dip and taken UTEP's football coach too...

[This message has been edited by 1876er (edited 5/21/2006 1:50a).]
BBYD09
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once again, its a good thing Texags does not make the decisions.
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