How do y'all feel about A&M basketball? Still the same irregardless of March's results, arguably the greatest win in Texas A&M history, i'll go as far as saying perhaps A&M sports history? Maybe that goes to Johnny at bama, anyhow, followed up by A&M getting embarrassed by Michigan. What are your thoughts? Did Kennedy do anything for you? Or do you still want him gone ASAP? Thoughts?

We could potentially have top 10 talent on the court again next year.
That could all fall apart though.
I say 1 year at a time..... I would NOT be extending Kennedy's contract more than 1 year increments mostly due to his long term health. His performance over the past 3 years has been fine and if he gets this team back (Tyler and Admon) we should have another very solid year.
It will still be frustrating to many though.

Give an example

I think it all depends on what your expectations for aggie baskeball are.

I think the last three seasons are a good sample of what to expect from Kennedy moving forward. Make the tournament 2 out of every 3 years, and potential for the programs first elite 8 sprinkled in there.

For some people that's acceptable for aggie baskeball. Based on program history making the sweet sixteen and beating UNC is an incredible season, right up there for best ever (I say 2016 is better due to winning the conference). The people with this mindset are content to pay Kennedy to quietly do his work in the background while all the spotlight of the athletics department and school are on the football program. Any deviation from that minimum of 2 tournament appearances in 3 years should result in a firing.

There's the other branch of fans that says "why can't we compete in both sports?" Woodward set a precedent shelling out that money to Jimbo that a national championship is expected. Why won't we do that for basketball? Anybody who has followed the past 7 seasons have watched games where we didn't show up, had a bad gameplan, or just downright sucked. With a sample size that large you can put it on the coach. I personally give a pass to Kennedy for his first couple seasons, I know I wouldn't be effective at my job with that diagnosis. Like I said to start, I think the last three seasons are more indicative of what to expect moving forward. So why keep a coach that is going to have games where he gets out coached and loses games he shouldn't?

Then there are the people who just straight up hate him

I stand somewhere inbetween the first two groups

What would be one of your biggest games in A&M sports history?

I missed where UNC had a week to prepare.

The trajectory is not good. Need the 2019 class to be a monster.

I think we out-athleted teams in most of our wins.

With RW and DJ gone, and TD and AG perhaps gone, the future looks dimmer than at the start of the 2017-2018 season. And we'll miss TTM more than we realize, I think.

I think next year will be frustrating. Again.

Ajm1115 said:

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What would be one of your biggest games in A&M sports history?

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1998 Big 12 Championship Game, 1939 National Championship, 2012 Alabama, 1999 tu, that's just for football off the top of my head.

I mean this can get down a rabbit hole of what "biggest" means. But, just in the moment, I'd say the '06 Texas game, '07 Kansas game and '16 Northern Iowa games were all bigger games and that's just thinking of basketball games. There are probably tons of football games that are bigger.

But that's sort of derailing the core question you're asking.

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What would be one of your biggest games in A&M sports history?

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Good Lord, go read the pre-game and game account of every baseball, football, and basketball game "in history". Then don't come back asking something so silly. Well, lets include track, golf, soccer, etc.

Anybody ever heard of Centre College?

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So, even if you're optimistic and think we're staying stagnant talent-wise as a program (even though I think it's a much easier case to make that we're about to take a big dip in the next couple of years,) everyone around us is getting better.

Is this a basketball program that you want to get behind? And to me that answer is no. We don't play hard all the time, we have players that seem selfish both on and off the court. We had SIX different players suspended at various times last year, including everyone that started our NCAA Tournament game except for Tyler Davis. In a season that could have truly been special, that speaks to a lack of accountability and leadership.

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These are two points I think most of us can agree on and I completely agree with you.

Regardless of your position on coaching and when or if changes should be made, the program as a whole just isn't one that is easy to support. I think it is part of the reason why we are in the postion we are. Most Aggies are apathetic towards the program and just don't care that much because it isn't always a very fun program to get behind. I love college hoops and A&M so I will always subject myself to the torture, but for many casual fans, there hasn't been much to latch on to other than a few wins in March. You can take a few wins in March and build a program, but we haven't been able to turn the excitment of some of our achievements into sustained success due to all sorts of issues both on and off the court.

Then compare us to the rest of the SEC and things could get really interesting/bleak around here if nothing changes in the way of incoming talent or development. Nearly every school in the conference has changed (upgraded) their coaching situation in the last 4-5 years. We started to see the results of that this season, and the conference as a whole is only going to get more and more difficult and talent rich.

If you want a team being taught solid fundamental basketball, this is a frustrating team to follow. For me the sweet 16s were too little too late. I have enough data. Kennedy isn't the worst, but he isn't good enough in too many areas to be the coach.

Recruiting is drying up. Maybe it picks back up, but looks like it's headed to pre Stansbury levels that were proven to not be enough talent for Kennedy.

TyperWoods said:

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I think we out-athleted teams in most of our wins.

With RW and DJ gone, and TD and AG perhaps gone, the future looks dimmer than at the start of the 2017-2018 season. And we'll miss TTM more than we realize, I think.

I think next year will be frustrating. Again.

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The prospect of next season will be a lot more clear on May 25th. If TD and AG come back, we may be able to pur together a squad that could end up on the right side of the bubble. If TD does not come back, we may see the nose dive a lot of people on here have been predicting. Without Tyler Davis, I'm not sure I can envision a way we make the NIT, which is awfully depressing and I think says a lot about the state of things when so much of our program relies on just one player's offseason decision.

Part of the problem is getting Davis and not doing more to improve things behind him. Two projects and a low level transfer are the hopes.

No Kennedy didn't expect Robert Williams to be a two and done when he signed him. So I'll give him that. But Davis is a JR with no real replacements on the team or pipeline.

Agreed. I know some people have said they're excited about Jacey, but I saw nothing from him this year that showed me he can be more than a 10-12 minute player at this level. I'm also hesitant to buy the Nebo hype due to the number of times we have been sold "XX player looks great in practice and will be a big contributor next year!" only to see it never work out. Obviously the TD factor only pertains to next year, but it would at least give those two guys some more time before having to be the go to posts, and it would also give us time to recruit a quality replacement, even if that replacement is a fish. The lack of backfill after the great 2014 class is obviously a big cause for concern for pretty much all of us on here considering the assistant coaching turnover that took place since then.

Nebo will be the next overhyped workout warrior. Maybe he transitions. I've just seen too many guys with struggle to make the jump.

Jasey is really far behind. Walker was ranked were he was for a reason. Redshirting isn't normal in basketball. That's how far Walker has to come.

The current trajectory of the A&M basketball program is like having a hemorrhage. You are eventually going to bleed out and crater. Hopefully the end is soon so we can begin to build a Championship caliber basketball program.

Anybody who thinks the current trajectory is anything other than down is living in never-never land.

Walker weighs like 80 lbs. That's prob his biggest problem.

How many schools have built power BB programs with an apathetic, non-supportive fan base?

I was asking a question. Do you know the answer? I don't, but it's pretty clear that apathy and lack of support aren't encouraging the AD to prioritize BB.

180 and raw. There are skinny skinny players who can come in a play. WVU has a point guard who is like 6 foot 150 who is gonna play next year. Is a top 100 player despite the 150.

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I was asking a question. Do you know the answer? I don't, but it's pretty clear that apathy and lack of support aren't encouraging the AD to prioritize BB.

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Of the top of my head, Texas went to a zillion NCAATs in a row with the same halfass support from the fanbase that we suffer from

As far as true "power" bb programs, I don't think any exist outside of solid fan support, but it's a 'chicken-and-egg' thing. Fans invest their time and money in those programs because their respective athletic departments have created a product they believe in, and the athletic departments have the resources to create a successful program because of the fan support. One doesn't happen without the other

at this point, the athletic department has the funds to give Billy Kennedy a sweetheart contract and to buy a ridiculous jumbotron and to build what I presume is a really nice practice facility, so I do not believe fan support is an issue