The NC win means he'll be here another 10-years.....

Bunk Moreland said:

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You don't go after coaches who make one big run.

You go after coaches who consistently put their teams in position to get lucky and make a run.

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I wish more people thought like this. All too often coaches will win one or two games in the tournament at a small school and then get hired to a much larger school without considering their career as a whole. It is why we are in the postition we are in, and we are not alone in that.
Schools tend to see someone get hot for a weekend or two (when considering conference tournaments) and mistake that as good coaching or sustained success. Sometimes it works out when you grab those hot commodity coaches, but typically it is the ones who have had sustained success that acheive the most, ala Chris Beard. He bounced around a ton very quickly, but he had success at every stop almost immediately and learned under one of the game's best before that. Compare that to someone like BK, who bounced around and was as average as average gets, but got hired after 2 good years out of 5 at a school that had success long before he arrived. This is not to turn this thread into a BK thread, just a comparison of what happens when you hire based on 1 year rather than a whole body of work. I also realize the jury is still out on Tech/Chris Beard as it pertains to sustained success.

Loyola-Chicago is a basketball school just like us.

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You don't go after coaches who make one big run.

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Unless you're talking about Melvin Watkins and Billy Kennedy

EXCELL said:

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You don't go after coaches who make one big run.

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Unless you're talking about Melvin Watkins and Billy Kennedy

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What big runs did those two make before we hired them?

Bunk Moreland said:

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You don't go after coaches who make one big run.

You go after coaches who consistently put their teams in position to get lucky and make a run.

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Ultimate reason why you don't have fans hiring and firing coaches...

Melvin went to the dance twice (round of 32 both times)

1996-97 Charlotte Overall: 229 Conference: 104 Conference Finish: 1st NCAA Second Round
1997-98 Charlotte Overall: 2011 Conference: 133 Conference Finish: 2nd NCAA Second Round


Billy Kennedy went to the dance (round of 32) and then the NIT the following year before coming to A&M.

200910 Murray State Overall: 315 Conference: 171 Conference Finish: 1st NCAA Second Round
201011 Murray State Overall: 239 Conference: 144 Conference Finish: 1st NIT First Round

So where are the "big runs" you referred to?

Bunk Moreland said:

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BadMoonRisin said:

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Bunk Moreland said:

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You don't go after coaches who make one big run.

You go after coaches who consistently put their teams in position to get lucky and make a run.

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You realize that neither of these strategies apply to BK right?

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Yes. I'm not comparing it to A&M's bass ackwards hiring decisions at the time. I'm just saying in general, don't chase the hot commodity in cbb, chase consistency over time.

2 sweet 16's in 7 years mixed with massive frustration and anguish the other 5 is not as nice as 4 ncaa tourneys in 4 years without a S16 birth.

I love March madness but I also want a team that will show up and fight year in and year out. I choose to believe if you put yourself in position most years, that's how you get lucky/good and can make a deep run.

BK struck silver twice but has otherwise sucked. Which makes it all the more maddening.

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2 Sweet 16s is more like striking aluminum twice, but yeah the UNC game was a blast.

BK's gameplan for Meatchicken was as bad a gameplan as the adjustment at the 11 min first half mark against UNC was good.

Come to think of it, BK is more like hitting GOLD (UNC, UNI) and then having a deluge of sewage (Land Thieves, Mich) wash it all away. B.A.S. HOF stuff.

Define "big run"
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