According to Spanish News, Vila "hasn't signed anything yet"

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Full article below from today (5/24).

For those non spanish speakers, FC Barcelona Basketball club has confirmed that he hasn't signed anything yet. He is still deciding between A&M and signing an offer from them. He will decide within a week. May get interesting....
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Eric Vila se encuentra ante el dilema de decidir si se va a Estados Unidos o se queda en el FC Barcelona. Tras ser elegido MVP de la Final Four jnior de la Euroliga y tambin del Campeonato de Espaa jnior, el jugador del FC Barcelona es el junior de moda y propuestas no le faltan. En las ltimas horas se apuntaba desde Estados Unidos que Vila que ya haba llegado a un acuerdo con la Universidad de Texas A&M, pero desde el club blaugrana afirman que el jugador an no ha firmado nada y que esperan la respuesta del jugador.Segn pudo saber SPORT, el jugador no decidir nada hasta la prxima semana.
Hasta seis universidades americanas le hicieron llegar su inters a Vila, pero el jnior del Bara ha elegido a Texas como su prioridad al ser la opcin que ms le atrae. Paralelamente, el jugador, de 18 aos, cuenta con una propuesta profesional sobre la mesa del FC Barcelona, que confa en retenerle. Este es el ltimo ao jnior de Eric y la temporada que viene jugara en el Bara B y en caso de que su evolucin siguiera siendo tan positiva podra tener las puertas abiertas para jugar algunos minutos en el primer equipo. De hecho, Vila fue el jugador blaugrana ms joven en debutar en la Liga Endesa con 16 aos y 6 meses.
Durante la pasada temporada, desde la direccion deportiva de la cantera -que ahora cuenta con unos responsables diferentes- se le hizo una primera propuesta deportiva a Vila, aunque en aquel momento el club blaugrana no estuvo demasiado por la labor. Eso y el hecho de que no estaba teniendo minutos en el Bara B propici que Eric empezara a explorar la opcin de irse a Estados Unidos, cuyo proyecto tanto deportivo como acadmico es mucho ms completo.

No obstante, el Bara se ha puesto las pilas y ahora quiere retener a su perla a toda costa.La pelota est ahora en el tejado del jugador. A quin elegir? En unos das tendremos la respuesta.

**Grammar errors are caused by accents not being able to be copied and pasted**

http://www.sport.es/es/noticias/baloncesto/dilema-eric-vila-irse-ncaa-quedarse-barca-5154451
Pumpkinhead
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This may not be a good sign if Logan posted the announcement because staff thought the deal was done, and then Vila is immediately waffling (maybe the offer from the pro team has been sweetened and causing Vila to reconsider?). Vila won MVP of the Final Four for that euro championships and his stock seems pretty high right now.
BobOliver2006
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juan!

For those non Spanish speakers, one!
mdanyc03
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Thanks. So some of the key things here.

The plan would still be for him to play for the Barca B team. This is the last year that he is eligible age wise. It says the plan would be for him to play for the B team one more year and then hopefully to crack the senior team a year from now.

I have also read elsewhere that it has been several years since Barca brought some to their senior team that they developed in their own academy. It is a tough step because Barca is a top flight professional team, with several guys making millions and several NBA quality players or NBA vets on the roster.

So, from a career perspective, he may still see that jump as uncertain. And once he takes a professional contract, college basketball is out of the picture.

On the other hand, I can imagine that the emotional pull of playing for Barca for a local Catalan kid may be tremendous. Especially one that has been in their academy since age 12.
mdanyc03
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This may not be a good sign if Logan posted the announcement because staff thought the deal was done, and then Vila is immediately waffling (maybe the offer from the pro team has been sweetened and causing Vila to reconsider?). Vila won MVP of the Final Four for that euro championships and his stock seems pretty high right now.

Nobody ever said it was a done deal at all.
mdanyc03
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(maybe the offer from the pro team has been sweetened and causing Vila to reconsider?).

The article does say that he began to consider US options because he was getting limited minutes with the B team and although Barca had made an offer to retain him, it was half hearted. But that has all changed now.

But I don't think he is "reconsidering." I don't think Logan or anybody else ever indicated he had made a final decision. Just that he had signed with A&M. Which I think he has. I just think the Spanish paper doesn't understand that an Letter of Intent is basically non binding on either party in this case.
Pumpkinhead
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This may not be a good sign if Logan posted the announcement because staff thought the deal was done, and then Vila is immediately waffling (maybe the offer from the pro team has been sweetened and causing Vila to reconsider?). Vila won MVP of the Final Four for that euro championships and his stock seems pretty high right now.

Nobody ever said it was a done deal at all.


Logan's article was written saying he had signed and would be joining the 2016 class. There was no mention of Vila still considering a pro offer in Logan's article.

Sure has the look of waffling to me, maybe because a better offer from the pro team in last 24 hours.

Or Logan simply jumped the gun a bit.
mdanyc03
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Yes, he signed and therefore joined the class. But in every class, signing and actually showing up on campus are two different things. I never got the sense from Hop or Logan that this was a done deal at all.

Did you?
mdanyc03
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Here is what Hop posted in the comments section of Logan's article.

"I'll give you an educated guess with an emphasis on guess for entertainment purposes. I think he was leaning toward going to American college a few weeks ago. I don't know if his success and FC Barcelona's success a couple of weeks ago changes his thinking. But as of a month ago, I heard chances were pretty good he was coming here."
wacarnolds
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Yes, he signed and therefore joined the class. But in every class, signing and actually showing up on campus are two different things. I never got the sense from Hop or Logan that this was a done deal at all.

Did you?
The article reads like a done deal.
wacarnolds
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This has the feel of a HS pitching prospect that commits to a school or even signs with a school, but is also a potential MLB draft pick, and the signing serves as a point of leverage for contract negotiations.
Pumpkinhead
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Yes, he signed and therefore joined the class. But in every class, signing and actually showing up on campus are two different things. I never got the sense from Hop or Logan that this was a done deal at all.

Did you?


I would not have posted the article that was posted yesterday then if that was the case. Or, rewrite the article to indicate an LOI was signed but final decision with the pro team is still pending. There was no mention of the pro offer still being considered in the news yesterday.
Pumpkinhead
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This has the feel of a HS pitching prospect that commits to a school or even signs with a school, but is also a potential MLB draft pick, and the signing serves as a point of leverage for contract negotiations.


He may have signed an LOI several days ago. Could be exactly what you describe, and that is fine just...Logan should have mentioned the situation with the pro team IMO. As a fan, I read that article and thought 'done deal' based on what was written.
wacarnolds
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This has the feel of a HS pitching prospect that commits to a school or even signs with a school, but is also a potential MLB draft pick, and the signing serves as a point of leverage for contract negotiations.


He may have signed an LOI several days ago. Could be exactly what you describe, and that is fine just...Logan should have mentioned the situation with the pro team IMO. As a fan, I read that article and thought 'done deal' based on what was written.
Agree, that if Logan or the staff knew, it should have been included.

But I think it's completely plausible that they were not aware it wasn't a done deal. Based on what I know about Logan, I believe he would have included it if he knew.

mdanyc03
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I can only speak for myself and how I interpreted the information that was available, but it was pretty clear to me that this wasn't a done deal. And the fact that there was no press release or interview or even a tweet by Vila reinforced that.

Now, I expected and still expect that he will be here this summer. But I don't think that this is a case of 1) him changing his mind or 2) Logan being unaware of the situation.

I think it was a case of Logan reporting that he had signed a letter of intent. Which was correct and newsworthy.
wacarnolds
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I can only speak for myself and how I interpreted the information that was available, but it was pretty clear to me that this wasn't a done deal.
How so?
OasisMan
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IMO he could sign with us and then later sign with Barca

he could also use us as leverage to up the Barca contract
mdanyc03
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I just said why.

1. No press release.
2. No interview.
3. Hop posted 5 minutes afterwords that it wasn't a done deal.
4. No tweet or other confirmation from Vila that he had made a decision.

I took it as 1) he had signed by A&M 2) A&M expects him to be here. But I didn't take it as a done deal and nothing in the article posted in the OP comes across as a surprise.
Method Man
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Yes, he signed and therefore joined the class. But in every class, signing and actually showing up on campus are two different things. I never got the sense from Hop or Logan that this was a done deal at all.

Did you?


Uh, yeah. Almost everyone did. Logan basically intimated that they were waiting for him to decide to make it official.
mdanyc03
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Logan basically intimated that they were waiting for him to decide to make it official.

I don't even know what this means let alone where you got that from. Who is they and who made it official?
wacarnolds
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I just said why.

1. No press release.
2. No interview.
3. Hop posted 5 minutes afterwords that it wasn't a done deal.
4. No tweet or other confirmation from Vila that he had made a decision.

I took it as 1) he had signed by A&M 2) A&M expects him to be here. But I didn't take it as a done deal and nothing in the article posted in the OP comes across as a surprise.
That's your interpretation, which could certainly end up the correct interpretation, but to act like it is the "clear" interpretation seems a bit absurd. If it was the case that FCB "clearly" was still in play, I think it would have been mentioned in the article. Instead, the past tense used in the sentence

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one of the biggest obstacles to overcome was whether or not Vila wanted to remain in Spain and play professionally.

seems to indicate that this obstacle is no longer in play, and that beyond an admissions issue with A&M or some new development, it was a done deal.
wacarnolds
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fyi, here's google translate on the original article

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Eric Vila is faced with the dilemma of deciding whether it be US or stays in the FC Barcelona. After being chosen MVP of the Final Four Euroleague JNior and also the Spanish Championship JNior, the FC Barcelona is the junior fashion and no shortage of proposals. In newer times pointing from United States Vila that had already reached an agreement with the Texas A & M University, but from the blaugrana club say the player an has not signed anything and expect the response jugador.Segn could know SPORT, the player does not decide anything until prxima week.

Up to six American universities he did get his interest to Vila, but the JNior of Bara has chosen Texas as its priority to be the option that most appeals to you. In parallel, the player of 18 years, has a professional proposal on the table of FC Barcelona, who trusts in hold him. This is the last year of Eric JNior and play next season in the Bara B and if its evolution remained so positive could have the doors open to play some minutes in the first team. In fact, Vila was the blaugrana youngest player to debut in the Endesa League with 16 years and 6 months.

During last season, from sports direction of the quarry, which now has a different-makers was made a first proposal to Vila sport, although at that time the club blaugrana was not too much work. That and the fact that he was not taking minutes in the Bara B propici Eric began to explore the option of going to the United States, which both sport and academic project is much more complete.

However, Bara has been stepping up and now wants to retain its pearl costa.La entire ball is now in the court of the player. A quin choose? In a few days we will have the answer.

mdanyc03
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Okay, there was a lot of ambiguous information but it was pretty clear to me. Especially when Hop state 5 minutes after the article that it wasn't a done deal yet.

And, you all know that Corprew isn't a done deal yet either? I thought that has been clear all along but just in case it hasn't been to some of you.
Method Man
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Logan basically intimated that they were waiting for him to decide to make it official.

I don't even know what this means let alone where you got that from. Who is they and who made it official?


They = Kennedy

greg.w.h
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International rules aren't NBA rules...

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2014-07-14/top-basketball-recruit-skips-college-to-be-european-professional
Pumpkinhead
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However, Bara has been stepping up and now wants to retain its pearl

Sure sounds like this is the deal per that article. Vila did really well at that Euro thing, he signed LOI and maybe communication was made that he was coming, but there has been some 'stepping up' from the pro-team in response and now Vila is waffling.
Texafret
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I've followed his recruitment since HOP mentioned him as a guy that had interest in A&M. I didn't think he would end up at A&M then and still think we have about a 40% chance of landing him (which is a lot higher than I had before). The positive thing here is that Villa is a stud and better prospect than I expected. If he is getting an offer for the professional team that's means he's damn good. The negative is that while this guy was putting in the work to be the player he is, he was daydreaming about playing for his hometown professional team. I don't think we win that battle. So while the article staff wrote may have read like it was a done deal, the ones that have followed Villas recruitment knew it was far from over. It is very much like trying to sign a top hs baseball player. We're just gonna have to wait and see how this plays out
The Collective
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I did not think it was over either based on everything I've followed. I guess that I read Logan's report with that understanding in mind. The Spanish article seems to be writing to an audience that does not understand what a LOI means which makes sense.
PJYoung
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Exactly. He signed with us but the article's point is that the signing is not binding - i.e. in the sense that a pro contract signing is binding.
agtrevino07
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According to Marca, one of the main sports news site, Vila already "ditched" Barcelona for Texas a&m ("miraculous team"). They stated that he visited A&m just 24 hours after winning the championship with Barcelona.

I am not certain if anybody has posted more recent news about Vila. This is dated on 05/24.

http://www.marca.com/baloncesto/acb/2016/05/24/57440f1b22601db9188b463e.html
Pumpkinhead
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Highlights of Vila in that Euro championship game. Some of these shots he made in that game definitely make you think 'Hogg 2.0', and he pretty much checked off all of the shots that you'd like to see from a 6'9" wing shooter. Made a catch-and-shoot three, made an elite looking off-the-dribble-in-the-face-of-the-defender three, made a deep-NBA-range three, made a I-can-even-nail-lucky-off-the-backboard-threes three, plus a pretty nice hard dribble down court then stop-and-pop-mid-range swish shot. Oh, and he had a nice looking pass too.

http://basketcantera.tv/video/1727/highlights-eric-vila-fc-barcelona-final-euroliga-adidasngt-2016/
Pumpkinhead
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According to Marca, one of the main sports news site, Vila already "ditched" Barcelona for Texas a&m ("miraculous team"). They stated that he visited A&m just 24 hours after winning the championship with Barcelona.

I am not certain if anybody has posted more recent news about Vila. This is dated on 05/24.

http://www.marca.com/baloncesto/acb/2016/05/24/57440f1b22601db9188b463e.html

This article and the article in the OP were both apparently posted on May 24 within just a few hours of each other.


phorizt
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y'all need to work on your Spanish. It says he visited A&M right after our miraculous come from behind NCAA tourney win not their Euro junior championship win. I don't think that article really tells us any new info.
Tango Mike
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According to Marca, one of the main sports news site, Vila already "ditched" Barcelona for Texas a&m ("miraculous team"). They stated that he visited A&m just 24 hours after winning the championship with Barcelona.

I am not certain if anybody has posted more recent news about Vila. This is dated on 05/24.

http://www.marca.com/baloncesto/acb/2016/05/24/57440f1b22601db9188b463e.html

Nope, that's not what it says
mdanyc03
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That article was just a second hand report of the news he had signed. They don't have any first hand information. Keep waiting. We will find out next week .
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