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betting against his health seems silly at this point. i would say that if we were to have a coaching change in the next 24 months, the odds are greater that it would be performance related (missing the dance) rather than Parkinsons related.
i dont think either will happen in the next 24 months (IMO- 60% chance 2 yrs from now we have a similar season to this one, 30% chance fired, 10% health related retirement).

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So even by your projections you think Kennedy and this program has a 60% chance of having another Sweet Sixteen type of season in the next two years and you are still angling how best to get rid of him?

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I don't think he's angling on getting rid of him

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Stansbury and Keller got that one year in the last five and are smart guys.

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When you say they got that one year are you attributing all of the success to them?

I attribute a lot to Stansbury because we sucked before he got here. Obviously, Kennedy deserves credit for hiring him but the record is the record. Imagine if Stansbury hadn't gotten House here.

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betting against his health seems silly at this point. i would say that if we were to have a coaching change in the next 24 months, the odds are greater that it would be performance related (missing the dance) rather than Parkinsons related.
i dont think either will happen in the next 24 months (IMO- 60% chance 2 yrs from now we have a similar season to this one, 30% chance fired, 10% health related retirement).

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So even by your projections you think Kennedy and this program has a 60% chance of having another Sweet Sixteen type of season in the next two years and you are still angling how best to get rid of him?

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no angling. can we have an honest discussion? is that possible? please refrain from telling me what you think i am thinking (and therefore what the secret agenda is behind a post) and just take the words at face value.

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I attribute a lot to Stansbury because we sucked before he got here. Obviously, Kennedy deserves credit for hiring him but the record is the record. Imagine if Stansbury hadn't gotten House here.

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Yes. imagine where we would have been last year if we had not recruited good players and the assistant coaches who had been hired had all sucked. just Imagine!

We certainly have clear data that suggests Kennedy unfortunately needs both good players and good assistants (like Stansbury, Prohm, etc) to win. Be nice to have a HC who could get to the nCAA with 2-star players and empty suits on his staff but is what it is.

Next season we will still have some good players. let's see who the new assistants are.

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betting against his health seems silly at this point. i would say that if we were to have a coaching change in the next 24 months, the odds are greater that it would be performance related (missing the dance) rather than Parkinsons related.
i dont think either will happen in the next 24 months (IMO- 60% chance 2 yrs from now we have a similar season to this one, 30% chance fired, 10% health related retirement).

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So even by your projections you think Kennedy and this program has a 60% chance of having another Sweet Sixteen type of season in the next two years and you are still angling how best to get rid of him?

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no angling. can we have an honest discussion? is that possible? please refrain from telling me what you think i am thinking (and therefore what the secret agenda is behind a post) and just take the words at face value.

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When the whole subject of your post has do with how BK could be fired / let go what else are readers supposed to infer from it?

what I want to know is why, if we had not only Kennedy but the future head coaches of WKU and SFA on the bench last season...not one of those three men thought of feeding the ball to Davis more when the 3-point shots were not falling? How many HC types does it take to figure that out? Heck, Method Man figured that out in 10 seconds.

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I attribute a lot to Stansbury because we sucked before he got here. Obviously, Kennedy deserves credit for hiring him but the record is the record. Imagine if Stansbury hadn't gotten House here.

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Yes. imagine where we would have been last year if we had not recruited good players and the assistant coaches who had been hired had all sucked. just Imagine!

We certainly have clear data that Kennedy needs good players and assistants (like Stansbury, Prohm, etc) to win.

Next season we will still have some good players. let's see who the new assistants are.

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Yes, let's forget Murray State since everyone wins there. At A&M, he didn't do one thing until Stansbury arrived. He needs a good coach and recruiter and can get one.

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what I want to know is why, if we had not only Kennedy but the future head coaches of WKU and SFA on the bench last season...not one of those three men thought of feeding the ball to Davis more when the 3-point shots were not falling? How many HC types does it take to figure that out? Heck, Method Man figured that out in 10 seconds.

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Answer: truthfully Stansbury isn't a great coach. He's just better than BK. OR...maybe it's like Terry Joseph with Chavis vs Snyder. There's just so much you can do as an assistant.

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I attribute a lot to Stansbury because we sucked before he got here. Obviously, Kennedy deserves credit for hiring him but the record is the record. Imagine if Stansbury hadn't gotten House here.

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Yes. imagine where we would have been last year if we had not recruited good players and the assistant coaches who had been hired had all sucked. just Imagine!

We certainly have clear data that Kennedy needs good players and assistants (like Stansbury, Prohm, etc) to win.

Next season we will still have some good players. let's see who the new assistants are.

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Yes, let's forget Murray State since everyone wins there. At A&M, he didn't do one thing until Stansbury arrived. He needs a good coach and recruiter and can get one.

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betting against his health seems silly at this point. i would say that if we were to have a coaching change in the next 24 months, the odds are greater that it would be performance related (missing the dance) rather than Parkinsons related.
i dont think either will happen in the next 24 months (IMO- 60% chance 2 yrs from now we have a similar season to this one, 30% chance fired, 10% health related retirement).

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So even by your projections you think Kennedy and this program has a 60% chance of having another Sweet Sixteen type of season in the next two years and you are still angling how best to get rid of him?

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no angling. can we have an honest discussion? is that possible? please refrain from telling me what you think i am thinking (and therefore what the secret agenda is behind a post) and just take the words at face value.

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When the whole subject of your post has do with how BK could be fired / let go what else are readers supposed to infer from it?

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my post was a response to someone in the thread who suggested that if it were known that kennedy had 1 or 2 years before his health forced him to retire, that could be appealing to potential assistant coach candidates.
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What do you attribute Kennedys unprecedented success to at that school?

Amazing low major coaching and recruiting I suppose.

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What do you attribute Kennedys unprecedented success to at that school?

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Honestly? It's a crummy basketball school in a crummy conference. Personally I don't really think it says much about him one way or another, especially as his time there was so hot/cold (some awful seasons and a ton of roster shuffling + a couple of good seasons when he found the right roster).

"SE LA is low-major. Irrelevant. Everyone wins at Murray State. Irrelevant. Stansbury and Keller are responsible for years four and five. Irrelevant. Ergo Kennedy can only be judged based on 2011 to 2013."

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"Ags didn't win much until Stansbury arrived and he specifically brought House whose injury Kennedy blamed for not making the tourney in his fourth year of not making the tourney at A&M. Oh. And also House was cleared by the NCAA for no other reason than the NCAA hates Kelvin Sampson."

-MM

He went to the tourney once in a one bid league and his team would've never made the tourney as an at large.

He went to the tourney at Murray State where everyone before him and after was successful and made it exactly one time.

He's made the tourney once in five years at A&M.

Give him all the credit and it's still not much.

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betting against his health seems silly at this point. i would say that if we were to have a coaching change in the next 24 months, the odds are greater that it would be performance related (missing the dance) rather than Parkinsons related.
i dont think either will happen in the next 24 months (IMO- 60% chance 2 yrs from now we have a similar season to this one, 30% chance fired, 10% health related retirement).

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So even by your projections you think Kennedy and this program has a 60% chance of having another Sweet Sixteen type of season in the next two years and you are still angling how best to get rid of him?

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no angling. can we have an honest discussion? is that possible? please refrain from telling me what you think i am thinking (and therefore what the secret agenda is behind a post) and just take the words at face value.

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When the whole subject of your post has do with how BK could be fired / let go what else are readers supposed to infer from it?

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my post was a response to someone in the thread who suggested that if it were known that kennedy had 1 or 2 years before his health forced him to retire, that could be appealing to potential assistant coach candidates.
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You still don't have it right.

First you took my initial post to intimate that Kennedy intended to retire in two years which, as you pointed out, was ridiculous. Except that is not what I said.

Then, with prompting, you figured out I was referencing the unhappy possibility of his illness becoming a factor.

Now you modify that to say "if it were known". I did not say "if it were known". What I was trying to get across, and evidently did a poor job at, is that given the situation, any candidate would naturally take the possibility into account and actually cannot do otherwise; positive knowledge is not possible.

Why is there less tolerance for basketball coaching criticism that there is baseball coaching criticism? Baseball assistants get fired. Basketball assistants get hired for head coaching jobs...
A sos post on a baseball thread gets you zapped. Not so much around here.

You keep bringing up the baseball board. They're getting things deleted on the baseball board when people drop in to say "coach sucks", "this player sucks" "we always screw up" types of useless posts. People have brought up Childress' past and some topics about how they disagree with the coaching style and it isn't deleted. This includes some of my own posts.

The mods there even mentioned that if you could make an argument for whatever reason you disagreed with coaching, on basketball or baseball, it wouldn't be deleted. MM and ditmars etc. usually spell out why they think what they're thinking...they aren't hit and run posters that drop in to cry about something and disappear.

Some people want to see more long-term success from Kennedy before they're completely convinced about his Xs and Os ability as a coach. It's not an unfair question to ask what happens to Aggie basketball without Keller and Stansbury knowing how much they contributed to the team (and the same could be said about Bolt and the baseball team, as pitching hasn't been as successful as hitting recently). Who knows, we'll find out quickly and hopefully he continues being successful.

Kennedy got the Aggie "good guy" tag and that seems to put him above any kind of criticism on this board. Go start a thread and spell out every reason why you dislike Childress on the baseball board. It won't be deleted and you'll get a lot of blue stars and agreements.

The good guy tag? There's no such thing. I don't know Childress but I believe he's been around 10+ years and how many trips to Omaha? I live in Belton. The talent within a 90 mile radius is incredible. I get basketball talent goes out of state. With partial scholarships in baseball , why go that far from home? Oh wait, they don't. They go to TCU or transfer, from TCU, to the school that didn't offer a scholarship, their senior year.
When I see staff warnings about basketball on a game thread, ok, you've made your point. Until then, I'm saving money.

Logan made an interesting post a few days back on premium regarding myths about Aggie basketball. Talked about the contributions of both Stansbury and Keller and who should be credited for what. Not going to divulge details but it was an interesting read.

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Kyle Keller's hire as the next SFA head coach should be announced tomorrow. Gig 'em, Coach. http://texags.com/s/20343

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Ooh secrets. How dialed in are they with the "anything said is ok" treatment? I remember when the staff here sat behind the bench. Logan would stand at the entrance to the locker room. I could clearly see gave in the press corner on his laptop. I didn't see that very much the last couple of seasons.

There haven't been staff warnings on game threads because no one has been on them for the previous 4 years.

Flag anything personal about Kennedy or players and it goes away, as it should. But you saw how stupid some of the suggestions were in the post by the guy who said all we needed to know about Kennedy was that they went to the same church.

What?



The only person I saw that has a link to Kennedy thru Sunday school, and it was a long link for that matter was gave. Lance, you do a phenomenal job on here and baseball. I'd love a staff like highlight when you post. I'm not going to argue with you. But for the past 2+ years many horrible comments about Kennedy and players are left up and ok. Here and on premium Baseball, not so much. You get zapped.

Negative comments are not fine. Heck. I'm scarred to post SOS. Because it is, SOS.

what's sos. strength of schedule?

I flag people on here all the time who say really stupid stuff about Kennedy. I flag people that say players suck or worse. It used to be that the rule was 2 flags got a mod's attention. And when I used to flag those kinds of posts, I'd find most of the time I was the first person to flag them. We'd have people post WHY IS THIS ALLOWED TO STAY UP and have mods come in and tell us "vote if you want us to see it". They aren't reading every post on every thread as soon as they happen, or possibly ever if they aren't brought to their attention.

That's why I said Texags didn't need to change to never questioning a coach/banning conversation during games/having any criticisms about a team even if they were or are doing well and there's something you want to talk about. That's baseball and basketball. The moderation is there for people to flag the obvious garbage while allowing actual discussion.

The "mob" would like to go completely one way or the other. There are some people that want to post "We suck, same old Kennedy/Childress" and wonder why people vote against that. There are some people, as proven by editing on the baseball board and that "be nice" post on basketball, that don't want to see "Childress hasn't put together a reliable rotation in four years" because we make regionals or who don't want it to be allowed to post "Kennedy has rarely had a team prepared for a 2-3 zone" because we're in the NCAA tournament.

-Apparently Keller was the lead recruiter on most of our guys on our roster.
-apparently Keller was the lead recruiter on Corprew.
-If you are a fan like myself who believes getting a team to the the NCAA is about 75% roster talent & chemistry and 25% bench coAching, then losing Keller (and to a lesser extent Stansbury) simultaneously is concerning primarily from a recruiting standpoint. Particularly the next month cause we need more players for 2016. Don't give a flip really about Kennedy's 'past' cause with a good roster it seems he can make NCAA. It is mostly about the recruiting pipeline to me.

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-Apparently Keller was the lead recruiter on most of our guys on our roster.
-apparently Keller was the lead recruiter on Corprew.
-If you are a fan like myself who believes getting a team to the the NCAA is about 75% roster talent & chemistry and 25% bench coAching, then losing Keller (and to a lesser extent Stansbury) simultaneously is concerning primarily from a recruiting standpoint. Particularly the next month cause we need more players for 2016. Don't give a flip really about Kennedy's 'past' cause with a good roster it seems he can make NCAA. It is mostly about the recruiting pipeline to me.

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I dunno Pumpkin. Unless you are recruiting one and dones, player development is as important as recruiting. That's the most alarming thing about losing Stansbury to me. He had a proven record of developing kids at MSU. We really need TD, Hogg, and Gilder to take the next step and at least one of them needs to move into elite territory (where I'd argue at various times, Jalen Jones and to a lesser extent Danuel House filled that role... say what you want about both of their out of control play styles, but they took over some games). I think Stansbury really helped in that area, and I'm concerned that without him, we're going to go back to the grind it out style offense that ranks relatively poorly for efficiency.

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-Apparently Keller was the lead recruiter on most of our guys on our roster.
-apparently Keller was the lead recruiter on Corprew.
-If you are a fan like myself who believes getting a team to the the NCAA is about 75% roster talent & chemistry and 25% bench coAching, then losing Keller (and to a lesser extent Stansbury) simultaneously is concerning primarily from a recruiting standpoint. Particularly the next month cause we need more players for 2016. Don't give a flip really about Kennedy's 'past' cause with a good roster it seems he can make NCAA. It is mostly about the recruiting pipeline to me.

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I dunno Pumpkin. Unless you are recruiting one and dones, player development is as important as recruiting.

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Darby has probably been just as important to player development as any assistant coach. Darby is the guy charged with tasks like turning a guy like Trocha from a twig into a player who can physically bang with D1 players. During the off-season, wouldn't surprise me if he spends more time with each individual player than any specific assistant.

My understanding also is that Stansbury worked with the bigs and Rahim worked with the guards. And remember that we replaced Cyprien and an empty chair (cause Reese left mid-season) with Stansbury and Rahim, so in Kennedy's CBI season he was actually short-handed an assistant coach during the entire conference play. Putting Stansbury's hire aside, just having Rahim instead of no assistant coach at all was presumably an improvement and help in the staff situation.

Stansbury was the primary recruiter who got House on board and also apparently the 2017 big Robinson (per comments by Logan).

Keller/Kennedy/Darby were apparently the key cogs who pulled off the 2015 Dallas coup, along with the shrewd move of recruiting the Johnson's and signing Avery Jr. Gilder said in an interview that Kennedy by far personally attended more of his games than any other head coach. Keller by all accounts is a workhorse on the recruiting trail, and was also the primary guy who recruited Trocha and just generally most of the guys on the roster.

I think Stansbury was a GREAT assistant coaching hire and no doubt must have helped in many ways. The guy had many years of experience coaching in the SEC plus is well known as a strong recruiter and he must have really helped. However, I'm not aware of him ever being portrayed specifically as an offensive guru. Hopefully we are going to make a couple of good hires to replace Stansbury and Keller.

All that said, for me personally as a fan, I'm much less concerned with stuff like player development right now in the short term (which Darby is just as important as anyone right now anyways) than I am closing out a strong 2016 recruiting class over the next month. If we miss on our remaining 2016 targets like Corprew/WMW/Cullen Neal/Eric Vila/etc then I'll probably point to one reason as perhaps the loss of two of our best recruiters (particularly Keller) right at a moment where we needed to be closing on some guys.

Good move for Kyle.

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Tyler specifically said Darby was one of the main reasons he decided on the Ags.