I'm sure there will be an announcement soon. I'm sure its some last minute details to take care of before it is officially announced. Just trust me on this one.

Wow Stupe, don't ever ask for proof that you are wrong again!

maybe it will be in Byrne's wed. letter!

bad idea

if this happens we will truely be like everyone else, and not unique

that is what this is for
http://lettermen.tamu.edu/hof.php

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damn UNC has retired a lot of jerseys, and you can see in the picture that two #34 jerseys are hanging right next to each other

I heard we were handing out diplomas, too. This is outrageous! We need to be unique in all things!

lol...poor stupe

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I heard we were handing out diplomas, too. This is outrageous! We need to be unique in all things!

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If this is your argument, then why don't we stop awarding degrees?

Dumb argument. Really dumb.

That was the whole point - we don't have to be unique is every single thing. There are things we do that other universities do also. Such as having graduation ceremonies and handing out diplomas.

Acie deserves this and I hope it happens!

How is it dumb? Your argument is that if we do this we are not unique. Well, news flash, we are already very similar to every other school. I am not sure how hanging a jersey suddenly makes us just like the rest. Wouldn't that be saved for something like, doing away with yell practice or the corps (by the way, we are not the only school with an ROTC program, OMG!), sitting down during games, or stopping Muster? That's where I would draw the line. By the way, I looked at this site... http://traditions.tamu.edu/index.php?q=traditions and I don't see anything about not retiring or honoring jerseys.

Finally, there is nothing bad about honoring the best Texas A&M Basketball player ever and no one will ever convince me otherwise.

So every player who has every played at Texas A&M in any sport doesn't deserve this?

Basically what this is saying is:

"You guys werent good enough, didn't play hard enough, and what few wins you had, or even many wins you had, still nothing you did will merit special accolades.... Oh wait Acie Law yeah he took us to the sweet 16,yeah lets hang his jersey from the rafters."

I would be pissed if I had played on the teams from 1919-1923, they won the SWC every year, esp 1919 they went undefeated. I would be pissed I i had played on the 1950-1951, 1963-1964, 1968-1969, 1974-1975, 1975-1976, 1978-1980, 1981-1982, 1984-1987, 1993-1994. All of these teams went to the NCAA tourney, NIT or WON the SWC. I would be pissed if I were Shelby Metcalf who coached from 1963-1989, that I was not honored, or that none of my boys were being honored.

You see we haven't done this before, so why would we suddenly do this now? We have had equal success before.

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This line is debateable too, unless ofcourse you have followed A&M BBall since 1912.

We should be asking "Why havent we done this sooner?"

see the link i posted above daffy

I saw it, tymanag0.

there enlies the answer to your question, therefore your question need not be asked

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So every player who has every played at Texas A&M in any sport doesn't deserve this?

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Uh, no.

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Basically what this is saying is:

"You guys werent good enough, didn't play hard enough, and what few wins you had, or even many wins you had, still nothing you did will merit special accolades.... Oh wait Acie Law yeah he took us to the sweet 16,yeah lets hang his jersey from the rafters."

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No, it's saying you built a basketball program from nothing. During your tenure here, you led a team from 0-16 in conference your freshman year to a #6 national ranking, an NIT appearance (first one in 11 years, two NCAA appearances (first one in 19 years), a sweet sixteen (first one in 27 years), and national relevance. You were the central on-court figure in the construction of modern Texas A&M basketball.

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I would be pissed if I had played on the teams from 1919-1923, they won the SWC every year, esp 1919 they went undefeated.

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If you find any of these people, please let me know.

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I would be pissed I i had played on the 1950-1951, 1963-1964, 1968-1969, 1974-1975, 1975-1976, 1978-1980, 1981-1982, 1984-1987, 1993-1994. All of these teams went to the NCAA tourney, NIT or WON the SWC.

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Acie had a far greater effect on Texas A&M University and on his country as a representative of Texas A&M than any of those guys did, and those guys would tell you the same thing.

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I would be pissed if I were Shelby Metcalf who coached from 1963-1989, that I was not honored, or that none of my boys were being honored.

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Are you aware that Shelby has a statue outside of the arena? Last I checked he doesn't have a jersey we could retire.

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You see we haven't done this before, so why would we suddenly do this now? We have had equal success before.

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We've never had an athlete pick up an absolutely dead program, put it on his back, and carry it to national significance.

How about the first consensus All American? I think that right there constitutes hanging the jersey. Keep in mind, they AREN'T retiring the number, just hanging the jersey.

FWIW, Dat Nguyen, John David Crow, and John Kimbrough have their jerseys hanging up in the entrance to the Bright Complex.

We have never had a consensus All-American or a Bob Cousy Award winner. He is also the only Naismith and Wooden Award Finalist. If someone kept track of buzzer beaters or game winners, I'm sure Acie Law would be #1 going away.

Also, isn't having the Hall of Fame pretty much saying those same things? What's the difference between inducting him into the Hall of Fame and hanging a jersey from the rafters?

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dp.

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Having a banner with his name in the arena helps build pride in the program. The Hall of Fame is great and I am sure he will be honored there as well. however, having highly visible banners celebrating our accomplishments is a way to add a little history to the program. do you want to take down the banners celebrating our NIT, NCAA appearances and conference championships? those are already mentioned in the hall of fame.

[You know that is over the line. -Staff]

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FWIW, Dat Nguyen, John David Crow, and John Kimbrough have their jerseys hanging up in the entrance to the Bright Complex.

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Then put Acie's jersey somewhere similar to the location of these. In the new Cox-McFerrin addition, you don't see the jerseys hanging at Kyle. Why hang one in Reed?

I am trying to get the point across to you that he is not, was not, nor will be the greatest athlete of all time, and to single him out and hold him above everyone else who has played just as hard and represented this school with honor, diginty and class, is just a bad idea. It is not fair to everyone those who have played before him, and who are honored in the Hall of Honor. Did they not deserve to be recognized in a more "special" way?

Don't get me wrong he was a great athlete and helped put A&M on the map, as far as BBall goes, and I am greatful for that.

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do you want to take down the banners celebrating our NIT, NCAA appearances and conference championships?

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Those celebrate team accomplishments, and represent the university, not individual. Way different.

tyman you aren't going to win this argument because you are the only one arguing it, everyone seems to like the idea. I'm sure if this is the start of hanging jerseys in the rafters at Reed, then other basketball players will be honored in time as well

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Oh shut up already!

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So every player who has every played at Texas A&M in any sport doesn't deserve this?

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There are a few players in Aggie history that have brought so much to their respective sport. Like Agsportsfan08 said, Dat Nguyen, John David Crow, and John Kimbrough have their jerseys hanging up in the entrance to the Bright Complex. Right next to wall of awards and recognitions achieved by Aggie football players in history. If you want to be critical, why don't you argue the fact that these three displays with engraved glass are unfair to every other football player in school history?

Acie didn't do anything by himself. But it was his talent for leading, speaking and hitting that shot that brought us out of basketball grave. Coach Metcalf was also one of those people who did so much for the sport, that's why his name is set in stone outside of Reed, and will soon be at the entrance of the new basketball facility.

Even though I'm class of '06, I've been attending games at Reed since it opened, and it excites me to see more than a couple thousand people in there at any given time. Acie put us on the map once again and by the looks of it, we're staying there for a while.

I TexAgs.

There is not a single basketball player in Texas A&M history that can match accomplishments with Acie Law. Period. Recognizing that fact does not diminish other players in any way. That argument is insane.

If Kyle Field had rafters, I guarantee there would be jerseys hanging from them.

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I am trying to get the point across to you that he is not, was not, nor will be the greatest athlete of all time, and to single him out and hold him above everyone else who has played just as hard and represented this school with honor, diginty and class, is just a bad idea.

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I'm sure he won't be the last one to get his jersey up there.

I TexAgs.

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What's the difference between inducting him into the Hall of Fame and hanging a jersey from the rafters?

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Because all athletes who have done great things at A&M are awarded here, individually, but also as a unit. A Hall of Honor, Hall of Fame. The don't have idol status at Kyle field, or Olsen, or the tennis complex, or any other athletic area.

What about Randy Matson who threw the Shot-Put a world record distance, thrown on Kyle Field in 1965? Where is his track Jersey hung? Is this not a great accomplishment?

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If Kyle Field had rafters, I guarantee there would be jerseys hanging from them.

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I'll leave this up, but this is kind of a bad argument. Retiring jerseys is not as prevalent in football as basketball. However, I could see a Ring Of Honor type display if we ever got around to it.

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What about the A&M Student(cant remember his name, will put in when I get home) who threw the Shot-Put a world record distance? Where is his track Jersey hung? Is this not a great accomplishment?

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If we even have a track facility, I'd have no problem with putting something up for him. Also, I find it funny that you can't remember this dude's name yet his accomplishment is supposed to match Acie Law's. My kids are going to know who Acie Law is.

tyman... please, just stop.

Who remembers track anyways? I can't remeber off of the top of my head, note the disclaimer. We do have a track facility, and no I am not talking about the new one, its across from Olsen connected with soccer, and softball. Your kids will because you are a bball fanatic. Big Deal.

I have stated my arguments, all be them a more traditional approach, I do think honoring Acie is a noble thing and should be done, but needs to be done in a different way.

Hasta.

goug, you should be studying.

ddp






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yeah I'm at work so studying isn't happening right now...tonight is going to suck however