The Army was a Great Leadership Experiment

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Tanker123
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1:09p, 9/22/24
I started my career in Helicopters and Tanks. When I took over a Finance Unit, I told them my vision is providing "World Class" support to the soldiers and community of Ft Riley. The soldiers accomplished that in a few months. I was so proud and pleased that I felt I needed to reward them in a "World Class" way. I did these things for the soldiers:

- When I told the MEDEVAC pilots I was in the 160th SOAR, it opened the door, and they agreed to give helicopter rides to soldiers.
- I had a hot breakfast and buses at the end point of a 4-mile run.
- The door prizes to the unit Christmas parties started with a big TV and a boombox. Stuff they wanted to win.
- I collected dinner certificates and gave them to the Section SGTs to pass down to their soldiers.
- I often made BBQ for the unit once a week after SGT's time. I am a good cook, so none of them went to the DFAC for lunch.

The morale was very high. It is easy being a leader of a unit with high morale. I loved the Army because it was a great leadership experiment. I felt compelled to thank the soldiers and incorporate some fun into their careers.
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6:07p, 9/22/24
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In reply to Tanker123 • 6:09p, 9/22/24
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Tanker123 said:
- When I told the MEDEVAC pilots I was in the 160th SOAR, it opened the door, and they agreed to give helicopter rides to soldiers.

I'd love to hear more about your time in the 160th.
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In reply to Naveronski • 8:36p, 9/22/24
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Tanker123 said:
- When I told the MEDEVAC pilots I was in the 160th SOAR, it opened the door, and they agreed to give helicopter rides to soldiers.

I'd love to hear more about your time in the 160th.
I was young and enlisted in the 160th which was my first duty station. I was spoiled due the great funding for the unit, professionalism, and minimal details. In 1.5 years I was never tagged for a detail. Then I went OCS and branched Armor. I like to believe Combat Arms gave me a good perspective on leadership - take care of the soldiers!
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In reply to Tanker123 • 5:12p, 9/23/24
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So what did you actually do in the 160th?
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In reply to Aggie Therapist • 8:01p, 9/23/24
Aggie Therapist said:
So what did you actually do in the 160th?
ALSE I can't elaborate on it.
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In reply to Tanker123 • 8:37p, 9/23/24
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Tanker123 said:
Aggie Therapist said:
So what did you actually do in the 160th?
ALSE I can't elaborate on it.

Aviation Life Support Equipment is now super duper classified? If you told me you'd have to kill me?

That's, uh, an interesting perspective.



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Tanker123
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In reply to Naveronski • 8:43p, 9/23/24
Naveronski said:
Tanker123 said:
Aggie Therapist said:
So what did you actually do in the 160th?
ALSE I can't elaborate on it.

Aviation Life Support Equipment is now super duper classified? If you told me you'd have to kill me?

That's, uh, an interesting perspective.



The perspective is correct considering a nondisclosure agreement I signed. What should I talk about? How we trained, our capabilities, equipment, TTPs, missions?
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In reply to Tanker123 • 8:51p, 9/23/24
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Tanker123 said:
Naveronski said:
Tanker123 said:
Aggie Therapist said:
So what did you actually do in the 160th?
ALSE I can't elaborate on it.

Aviation Life Support Equipment is now super duper classified? If you told me you'd have to kill me?

That's, uh, an interesting perspective.



The perspective is correct considering a nondisclosure agreement I signed.




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Tanker123
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In reply to Naveronski • 9:24p, 9/23/24
Naveronski said:
Tanker123 said:
Naveronski said:
Tanker123 said:
Aggie Therapist said:
So what did you actually do in the 160th?
ALSE I can't elaborate on it.

Aviation Life Support Equipment is now super duper classified? If you told me you'd have to kill me?

That's, uh, an interesting perspective.



The perspective is correct considering a nondisclosure agreement I signed.




Silly how you think you know that much about me. Are you a veteran? Let me guess, you are not a veteran but think it's appropriate to denigrate the service of a veteran. lol
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10:51p, 9/23/24
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And here we go again.
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In reply to OldArmyCT • 11:41p, 9/23/24
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And here we go again.
Yeah here we go again. Are you going to remind me that I plagiarize and need to post links?
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12:14a, 9/24/24
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He was enlisted as an E1/E2 , he did what his SGT told him. Probably didn't understand most of it and definitely had a situational awareness of what his unit was doing the size of a soda straw.

In ALSE that probably meant pulling filters on the oxygen system and replacing them or something along those lines.
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In reply to Tanker123 • 9:29a, 9/24/24
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Tanker123 said:
OldArmyCT said:
And here we go again.
Yeah here we go again. Are you going to remind me that I plagiarize and need to post links?
Well, that, and that you've "quit posting" on this forum several times, and keep coming back,
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In reply to Tanker123 • 9:45a, 9/24/24
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Tanker123 said:
Naveronski said:
Tanker123 said:
Naveronski said:
Tanker123 said:
Aggie Therapist said:
So what did you actually do in the 160th?
ALSE I can't elaborate on it.

Aviation Life Support Equipment is now super duper classified? If you told me you'd have to kill me?

That's, uh, an interesting perspective.



The perspective is correct considering a nondisclosure agreement I signed.




Silly how you think you know that much about me. Are you a veteran? Let me guess, you are not a veteran but think it's appropriate to denigrate the service of a veteran. lol
I'm just quoting this because it gets more absurd each time to edit.

Your guess sucks though.
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In reply to Naveronski • 10:04a, 9/24/24
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Without the ALSE, the 160th pilots don't fly, Seal Team 6 never gets to Pakistan, Osama never dies

Show some respect
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In reply to Aggie Therapist • 10:15a, 9/24/24
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Weird how we know about that raid, but Tanker123's exploits as junior enlist are more secretive. He's a national treasure.
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In reply to Aggie Therapist • 11:02a, 9/24/24
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Aggie Therapist said:
Without the ALSE, the 160th pilots don't fly, Seal Team 6 never gets to Pakistan, Osama never dies

Show some respect

Sarcasm?
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In reply to CanyonAg77 • 12:37p, 9/24/24
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5:07a, 9/25/24
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The 160th SOAR has a Facebook page but an ALSE clerk from 20-some odd years ago can't talk about what he did?
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In reply to OldArmyCT • 10:57a, 9/25/24
OldArmyCT said:
The 160th SOAR has a Facebook page but an ALSE clerk from 20-some odd years ago can't talk about what he did?
Dude. You don't get it. I signed a nondisclosure agreement and would be remiss if I spoke about my job in the 160th. Why do you hate me and what have I done to you? Do I disparage you? It's time to vacate the thread because of the cancer brought upon like people like you.
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In reply to Tanker123 • 7:09p, 9/25/24
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Why breakfast and rides after a 4 mile run? Why didn't you just end it where you started? I mean, I'd be pissed if my CO made me so a 4 mile run but made it end 4 miles away, so I guess good job giving them rides back?
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In reply to JABQ04 • 8:00p, 9/25/24
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Yeah, I feel like my 1SG would have been like wtf?

Not to mention the logistics of laying on those busses for 5 mins of actual movement.

Doesn't really make since. Set up a grill or skillet in the back of the company CP and serve the Soldiers there.

I did this at the end of AT this year and everyone had a good time.
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In reply to Aggie Therapist • 11:09p, 9/25/24
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I mean, I was a jarhead, and a lower enlisted grunt as well. So super big dumdum across the board. But even we figured out that if you run two miles, and then about face and run two more apparently that is four. And we still had breakfast. And didn't **** over a motor T unit. Not that they would have anyways. Would have laughed the request straight into the trash can.

Took us a few 8-milers to get the math right down to 4 though. But we got there!

Absolute peak Army to go on a pt run to then be bussed back. Yall wild!
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In reply to Tanker123 • 4:11a, 9/26/24
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Tanker123 said:
OldArmyCT said:
The 160th SOAR has a Facebook page but an ALSE clerk from 20-some odd years ago can't talk about what he did?
Dude. You don't get it. I signed a nondisclosure agreement and would be remiss if I spoke about my job in the 160th. Why do you hate me and what have I done to you? Do I disparage you? It's time to vacate the thread because of the cancer brought upon like people like you.
I've been to Campbell and Hunter was briefed by CW5 Safety Officer on the unit mission at the former and by the Bn CO at the latter. The 160th CSM briefed us on onboarding and a few pilots walked us thru their specific aircraft. Inside both of their hangars. I also met the current and succeeding 160th commanders and toured their HQ while they talked about their history. I was in a group that included spouses. I even talked with a '95 Aggie battalion commander who later commanded the 1st ACCB and learned a lot about both mission and training, along with expectations placed on the unit members. We were briefed because my Vietnam unit is listed in the 160th unit history as the unit the 160th evolved from. And the briefs included spouses. So I'm pretty sure ALSE, which is similar across all Army Aviation units, has almost nothing that is classified as Need to Know. Especially from 20 years ago.
But carry on.
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In reply to Naveronski • 11:14a, 9/26/24
Naveronski said:
Weird how we know about that raid, but Tanker123's exploits as junior enlist are more secretive. He's a national treasure.


Lots of "I's" in his posts. One would almost think this is the reincarnation of another infamous Texags poster who pretended marvelous experiences but IDK.
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4:09p, 9/26/24
It's really amazing to see veterans who don't understand we all bleed one color. It's quite disappointing.
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In reply to Tanker123 • 4:20p, 9/26/24
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Tanker123 said:
It's really amazing to see veterans who don't understand we all bleed one color.

Thank goodness you're here to remind us.
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Tanker123 said:
It's really amazing to see veterans who don't understand we all bleed one color. It's quite disappointing.


Congratulations on being a leader in the military and doing what you're supposed to do, take care of your troops. No one else comes on here saying they gave their dudes (and dudettes) rides, or bbq'd for them, or gave them cool prizes for a unit raffle. You did what you were supposed to do, like just about everyone else on this board.
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In reply to Eliminatus • 7:10p, 9/26/24
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Absolute peak Army to go on a pt run to then be bussed back. Yall wild!

I never experienced this in four years on active duty and two more in the Guard.
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9:00p, 9/26/24
I plan worked. Some of you googled ALSE. lol
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In reply to Green2Maroon • 8:31a, 9/27/24
Green2Maroon said:
Eliminatus said:

Absolute peak Army to go on a pt run to then be bussed back. Yall wild!

I never experienced this in four years on active duty and two more in the Guard.


I never heard of anyone turning a 30-minute jog into a freaking theatrical performance. It's a routine PT event, not the Bataan Death March

I guess all of my units were too busy training and then going home to our families to give away door prizes and try to buy Soldiers' affections or turn a helicopter into a carnival ride

Freaking weird ideas here
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In reply to Tanker123 • 10:32a, 9/27/24
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I started my career in Helicopters and Tanks. When I took over a Finance Unit, I told them my vision is providing "World Class" support to the soldiers and community of Ft Riley. The soldiers accomplished that in a few months. I was so proud and pleased that I felt I needed to reward them in a "World Class" way. I did these things for the soldiers:

- When I told the MEDEVAC pilots I was in the 160th SOAR, it opened the door, and they agreed to give helicopter rides to soldiers.
- I had a hot breakfast and buses at the end point of a 4-mile run.
- The door prizes to the unit Christmas parties started with a big TV and a boombox. Stuff they wanted to win.
- I collected dinner certificates and gave them to the Section SGTs to pass down to their soldiers.
- I often made BBQ for the unit once a week after SGT's time. I am a good cook, so none of them went to the DFAC for lunch.

The morale was very high. It is easy being a leader of a unit with high morale. I loved the Army because it was a great leadership experiment. I felt compelled to thank the soldiers and incorporate some fun into their careers.
Sounds like the finance unit gives themselves a pretty nice budget
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In reply to Prince_Ahmed • 11:55a, 9/27/24
Prince_Ahmed said:
Tanker123 said:
I started my career in Helicopters and Tanks. When I took over a Finance Unit, I told them my vision is providing "World Class" support to the soldiers and community of Ft Riley. The soldiers accomplished that in a few months. I was so proud and pleased that I felt I needed to reward them in a "World Class" way. I did these things for the soldiers:

- When I told the MEDEVAC pilots I was in the 160th SOAR, it opened the door, and they agreed to give helicopter rides to soldiers.
- I had a hot breakfast and buses at the end point of a 4-mile run.
- The door prizes to the unit Christmas parties started with a big TV and a boombox. Stuff they wanted to win.
- I collected dinner certificates and gave them to the Section SGTs to pass down to their soldiers.
- I often made BBQ for the unit once a week after SGT's time. I am a good cook, so none of them went to the DFAC for lunch.

The morale was very high. It is easy being a leader of a unit with high morale. I loved the Army because it was a great leadership experiment. I felt compelled to thank the soldiers and incorporate some fun into their careers.
Sounds like the finance unit gives themselves a pretty nice budget
Not too many Finance units were up for regular 4 mile runs in my day and it is questionable whether they would want "hot" breakfasts afterwards. Maybe a banana and orange juice and coffee after?
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