Man what a cool story

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bigtruckguy3500 said:

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rackmonster said:

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Quo Vadis? said:

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rackmonster said:

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Quo Vadis? said:

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Aggie Therapist said:

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Naveronski said:

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OP didn't serve; seems odd to judge someone else's service.

Why didn't you serve, OP?

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He would have punched his drill sergeant

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Oh yeah. I could handle a year of FDT and piss heads half of my size and 8 months older terrorizing me but a few months of ocs would have pushed me over the edge

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Hey!!....I was a Drill Dick too! Small World.

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what year were you on the Drill Team? my dad was FDT class of 1982

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I graduated in the Centennial Class 1976...FDT 72-73, my fish year...N-1 Neanderthals...AL THE WAY AND THEN SOME!!! AHHHH OOHHH RAHHH!!

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N-1 & FDT here as well (some 30+ years after you though). Both disbanded at some point in the 90's (not sure if you'd heard of N1 disbanded). Came back as the Knights. I've met a few of your classmates and advisors over the years. Actually, small chance I met you if you came to an N1 BBQ around 2007 (or maybe it was 2006). Remember someone saying he was N1 and one of the first to commission through NROTC.

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INCREDIBLE!!!...That was me!! The date was Sept. 30, 2006, I came back for my 30th Reunion. Hard to believe, since I left the Navy, and Texas, that's the one and only time I've been back to Aggieland in the last 40 years. Job, Family...took me far far away. I remember meeting you guys as you were forming up for the March-In...met the CO (was it you?) and he invited me to the BBG in front of the dorm after the game. I had a great time...except for the game. One of the best damn games (Texas Tech) I'd ever seen in Kyle. The lead went back and forth, we had a 100yd kickoff return for a TD. Late, we're ahead 27-24. Tech is driving, they're on about our 30 yd line, and everybody thinks they're gonna play it safe, kick the FG and go into Overtime. But I was thinking,"Leach might take one more shot at the end zone, and he did. Had to be a perfectly thrown ball so as not to be picked off, the Aggie DB had ALMOST perfect coverage, but the guy caught it for a TD. OMG!

But back to N-1. That was the first time I learned that they were now the Knights. I have no way of proving this off course, but, I'm 99% certain that I was the guy who came up with the name NEANDERTHALS. Earnie Threadgill was our CO. (one of the few African-Americans in the Corps, he had it tough, things were a lot different in 1972..Earnie served in the USMC. He was true quality person, had it not been for him, we would have had twice as many fish quit as we did. Sadly Earnie passed away a few years ago) Our first week, Earnie calls us together and says we gotta come up with a nickname for the unit, and he told us it was our task. A few of us were sitting around and I mentioned "Neanderthals". Some guys said "What's that?"..I says..."a Caveman"...a few hours later, Earnie calls us together and informs us that we are now the N-1 Neanderthals. No, I didn't come up with the hump..somebody else did.

There were 2 NROTC Companies, us and S-2 Raiders. In N-1 we had 4 Zips, 8 Sergebutts, 6 Pissheads, and 36 fish. 2 of the pissheads flunked out, we lost a bunch of fish. Of the 36 fish, there were 20 of us
left 4 years later. We had guys from EVERYWHERE. Pennsylvania like me, Virginia, New York City, Chicago, we had a guy all the way from Bangor, Maine. Most of us didn't find out we had scholarships until late in the summer. We didn't choose A&M, A&M chose us. I found out I had a scholarship on Aug 15, 1972. Three days later, my dad is driving me down to College Station. I knew NOTHING about the Corps. My first week, one of my fish buds from Texas was telling me how he went to "fish camp". I says " that sounds neat..was it freshwater or saltwater"?
We had so many guys quit, and I couldn't really blame them. One guy had a 4 year Scholarship. He went back home after 3 weeks. I think the only difference between him and me..he was from Baytown, just down the road. There was no way I was gonna hitchhike all the way back to PA. and go back to sleeping in the same bedroom I had occupied since the 2nd grade. And just quitting and being a Non-Reg was not an option. My parents could not have afforded out of state tuition. It was Apollo 13. Failure was not an option.

Anyway, I could go on and on, Thank you so much for remembering the OLD Ag, and being so kind to me when I was down there.

OBTW. I was raised Roman Catholic, 12 years Catholic School....but.

BTHO Notre Dame!!!....as Billy Joel said "I'd rather laugh with the Aggies than cry with the Saints...the Aggies are much more fun...

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Wow. Small world. My parents also moved to Baytown while I was in college.

I was not the CO at the time when you were there. But I may have sent you an email weeks/months later about FDT and the reunion we planned in spring 2007.

And I definitely remember that game. That season I think we were a few minutes of game clock and less than 7 collective points away from being undefeated and playing for a national championship. Pretty sure it was Crabtree that caught that pass. Of course we ended the season by getting blown out at the Holiday bowl by California.

BTHO Notre Dame!

By the way, are you initials __?

bigtruckguy3500 said:

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rackmonster said:

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bigtruckguy3500 said:

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rackmonster said:

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Quo Vadis? said:

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rackmonster said:

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Quo Vadis? said:

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Aggie Therapist said:

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Naveronski said:

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OP didn't serve; seems odd to judge someone else's service.

Why didn't you serve, OP?

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He would have punched his drill sergeant

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Oh yeah. I could handle a year of FDT and piss heads half of my size and 8 months older terrorizing me but a few months of ocs would have pushed me over the edge

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Hey!!....I was a Drill Dick too! Small World.

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what year were you on the Drill Team? my dad was FDT class of 1982

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I graduated in the Centennial Class 1976...FDT 72-73, my fish year...N-1 Neanderthals...AL THE WAY AND THEN SOME!!! AHHHH OOHHH RAHHH!!

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N-1 & FDT here as well (some 30+ years after you though). Both disbanded at some point in the 90's (not sure if you'd heard of N1 disbanded). Came back as the Knights. I've met a few of your classmates and advisors over the years. Actually, small chance I met you if you came to an N1 BBQ around 2007 (or maybe it was 2006). Remember someone saying he was N1 and one of the first to commission through NROTC.

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INCREDIBLE!!!...That was me!! The date was Sept. 30, 2006, I came back for my 30th Reunion. Hard to believe, since I left the Navy, and Texas, that's the one and only time I've been back to Aggieland in the last 40 years. Job, Family...took me far far away. I remember meeting you guys as you were forming up for the March-In...met the CO (was it you?) and he invited me to the BBG in front of the dorm after the game. I had a great time...except for the game. One of the best damn games (Texas Tech) I'd ever seen in Kyle. The lead went back and forth, we had a 100yd kickoff return for a TD. Late, we're ahead 27-24. Tech is driving, they're on about our 30 yd line, and everybody thinks they're gonna play it safe, kick the FG and go into Overtime. But I was thinking,"Leach might take one more shot at the end zone, and he did. Had to be a perfectly thrown ball so as not to be picked off, the Aggie DB had ALMOST perfect coverage, but the guy caught it for a TD. OMG!

But back to N-1. That was the first time I learned that they were now the Knights. I have no way of proving this off course, but, I'm 99% certain that I was the guy who came up with the name NEANDERTHALS. Earnie Threadgill was our CO. (one of the few African-Americans in the Corps, he had it tough, things were a lot different in 1972..Earnie served in the USMC. He was true quality person, had it not been for him, we would have had twice as many fish quit as we did. Sadly Earnie passed away a few years ago) Our first week, Earnie calls us together and says we gotta come up with a nickname for the unit, and he told us it was our task. A few of us were sitting around and I mentioned "Neanderthals". Some guys said "What's that?"..I says..."a Caveman"...a few hours later, Earnie calls us together and informs us that we are now the N-1 Neanderthals. No, I didn't come up with the hump..somebody else did.

There were 2 NROTC Companies, us and S-2 Raiders. In N-1 we had 4 Zips, 8 Sergebutts, 6 Pissheads, and 36 fish. 2 of the pissheads flunked out, we lost a bunch of fish. Of the 36 fish, there were 20 of us
left 4 years later. We had guys from EVERYWHERE. Pennsylvania like me, Virginia, New York City, Chicago, we had a guy all the way from Bangor, Maine. Most of us didn't find out we had scholarships until late in the summer. We didn't choose A&M, A&M chose us. I found out I had a scholarship on Aug 15, 1972. Three days later, my dad is driving me down to College Station. I knew NOTHING about the Corps. My first week, one of my fish buds from Texas was telling me how he went to "fish camp". I says " that sounds neat..was it freshwater or saltwater"?
We had so many guys quit, and I couldn't really blame them. One guy had a 4 year Scholarship. He went back home after 3 weeks. I think the only difference between him and me..he was from Baytown, just down the road. There was no way I was gonna hitchhike all the way back to PA. and go back to sleeping in the same bedroom I had occupied since the 2nd grade. And just quitting and being a Non-Reg was not an option. My parents could not have afforded out of state tuition. It was Apollo 13. Failure was not an option.

Anyway, I could go on and on, Thank you so much for remembering the OLD Ag, and being so kind to me when I was down there.

OBTW. I was raised Roman Catholic, 12 years Catholic School....but.

BTHO Notre Dame!!!....as Billy Joel said "I'd rather laugh with the Aggies than cry with the Saints...the Aggies are much more fun.

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By the way, are you initials CM?

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You're gonna blow my cover!! That's the initials of my brother...

Edited. Just in case you were serious.

Well I still see the initials…

St. Bartholomew?

I used to go to Sunday school there back in the day.

That's the place.

The Priest was an older Korean gentleman who made a few anti-gay remarks during the ceremony. My mind was all over the place so I didn't realize until people told me years later lol

Aggie Therapist said:

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That's the place.

The Priest was an older Korean gentleman who made a few anti-gay remarks during the ceremony. My mind was all over the place so I didn't realize until people told me years later lol

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Oh wow, I'm glad he still blessed your union!

Let's see the proof Walz repeatedly stated he served in combat. Quite often lies are passed around as truths in the current political climate. Retiring is not abandoning the unit. He deployed during his career and did his time.


Opinion: Trump and Vance take aim at the military (msn.com)

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To illustrate my point I'll give you an example. Completely made up, but hopefully it makes sense.

There's an absolute shortage of dentists for military bases, and to fill the needs of the servicemen and women the military commissions a bunch of civilian dentists with the express promise that they'll only do 4 years of service and that they'll never be deployed or moved outside of their home base.

Is what they're doing serving their country? How is it any different from what a dentist outside of the base is doing?

For me, what makes a military dentist a service member is that at any time he can be called up to go to Iraq or Afghanistan in a war zone, and he will go. That's where the "service" aspect comes from. If you're just going to get paid to do a job stateside with the knowledge that you'll leave if you go to war, you're just doing a job.

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none of what your posting makes any sense

You are talking to actual service members and Veterans on this thread and giving us YOUR opinion on what service is having never served in the military.

What responses are you looking for?

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Anything honest will do. Unfortunately we don't live in a Heinleinein Starship troopers society where only military opinions account, things would probably be better if we did. With that being said, I'm able to have an opinion on things. When things pop into my head I like to cross examine them. If you'll go to the religion and philosophy thread you'll see I also ask a lot of questions on there.

I'm just looking for a logical answer that explains how service in the military is different than working a regular job, if you are able to get out of going to war.

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He had every right to retire, and his service is vastly different than a civilian career.

Let's see the proof Walz repeatedly stated he served in combat. Quite often lies are passed around as truths in the current political climate. Retiring is not abandoning the unit. He deployed during his career and did his time.

Boom. Head shot. There's one.

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Let's see the proof Walz repeatedly stated he served in combat. Quite often lies are passed around as truths in the current political climate. Retiring is not abandoning the unit. He deployed during his career and did his time.

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He deployed to Vicenza, Italy. I was stationed in Vicenza for 3 years, they didn't even have a small arms range, much less a full on artillery (his branch) range.

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Let's see the proof Walz repeatedly stated he served in combat. Quite often lies are passed around as truths in the current political climate. Retiring is not abandoning the unit. He deployed during his career and did his time.

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Even NPR this morning reported that Walz has had issues claiming to have carried a weapon in combat but was in Europe...


And yes, he retired instead of deploying. You can argue that he served plenty, but it's obvious to see he left the NG rather than deploying.

Heard this quote on a broadcast from some who served with him in Minn NG:

"Joined the military during peacetime, got everything out of it he could, then when time to pay the bill, he quit"

What a scumbag!

You gents answered my questions, thanks a lot. Hope I didn't get anyone offended or riled up, I was just looking for different pov's. God bless you all

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You gents answered my questions, thanks a lot. Hope I didn't get anyone offended or riled up, I was just looking for different pov's. God bless you all

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You didn't ask a question. And registered after the last comment before yours. Staff, this account isn't legit.

Quo Vadis? said:

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Aggie Therapist said:

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Quo Vadis? said:

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To illustrate my point I'll give you an example. Completely made up, but hopefully it makes sense.

There's an absolute shortage of dentists for military bases, and to fill the needs of the servicemen and women the military commissions a bunch of civilian dentists with the express promise that they'll only do 4 years of service and that they'll never be deployed or moved outside of their home base.

Is what they're doing serving their country? How is it any different from what a dentist outside of the base is doing?

For me, what makes a military dentist a service member is that at any time he can be called up to go to Iraq or Afghanistan in a war zone, and he will go. That's where the "service" aspect comes from. If you're just going to get paid to do a job stateside with the knowledge that you'll leave if you go to war, you're just doing a job.

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none of what your posting makes any sense

You are talking to actual service members and Veterans on this thread and giving us YOUR opinion on what service is having never served in the military.

What responses are you looking for?

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Anything honest will do. Unfortunately we don't live in a Heinleinein Starship troopers society where only military opinions account, things would probably be better if we did. With that being said, I'm able to have an opinion on things. When things pop into my head I like to cross examine them. If you'll go to the religion and philosophy thread you'll see I also ask a lot of questions on there.

I'm just looking for a logical answer that explains how service in the military is different than working a regular job, if you are able to get out of going to war.

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The difference is that you are eligible to be sent to war at any time!