Works well in times of peace.
Does anyone have any doubts
about it if an all out war occurs again?
Does anyone have any doubts
about it if an all out war occurs again?
Exactly as I would about men and our sons. If we ever started conscription again, it would mean the country is facing a peril that exceeded the capability of our all-volunteer military and it's time for everyone to step up--men and women as the emergency dictates.TheGreatEscape said:
I'd like anyone to keep adding to the original thread post if this continues.
But I would like to know what you heroes of mine think about the conscription of women and our daughters?
TheGreatEscape said:
I prefer our daughters to not be drafted. But you all
are the boss.
Kinda like Nam…..74OA said:Exactly as I would about men and our sons. If we ever started conscription again, it would mean the country is facing a peril that exceeded the capability of our all-volunteer military and it's time for everyone to step up--men and women as the emergency dictates.TheGreatEscape said:
I'd like anyone to keep adding to the original thread post if this continues.
But I would like to know what you heroes of mine think about the conscription of women and our daughters?
The draft during Vietnam was a learning point for the US DOD. If you read on this subject at all it's what propelled us into the all volunteer force and away from a conscription based military. As a result we haven't gone back to a draft during any of the conflicts since then.PA24 said:Kinda like Nam…..74OA said:Exactly as I would about men and our sons. If we ever started conscription again, it would mean the country is facing a peril that exceeded the capability of our all-volunteer military and it's time for everyone to step up--men and women as the emergency dictates.TheGreatEscape said:
I'd like anyone to keep adding to the original thread post if this continues.
But I would like to know what you heroes of mine think about the conscription of women and our daughters?
#doubt.TheGreatEscape said:
Works well in times of peace.
Does anyone have any doubts
about it if an all out war occurs again?
I disagree. I think my reasons are beyond the scope of the military forum, and probably belong in the philosophy forum, but I'll just briefly summarize to say that decisions like this have consequences. Men are natural protectors of women, and we've seen men abdicate that responsibility more and more as women have taken on traditionally masculine jobs. I think the consequences of continuing policies that blur that divide and allow for normalization of switching gender roles will only lead to harms to this country long term that will be difficult, or impossible to come back from.CharlieBrown17 said:TheGreatEscape said:
I prefer our daughters to not be drafted. But you all
are the boss.
Nah **** that. If this country is going to push that men/women are equal then women should be draft eligible.
There's plenty of non combat roles they can fill if needed. Not having a dick shouldn't magically make you unable to serve the country in a WW3 type of scenario.
I watched Dr Currie-Gregg give a Veterans Day speech a few years ago and she was amazing.OldArmyCT said:
In the late 1970's the Army started training female pilots. They were just like male pilots, some good, some really good, some bad, some really bad. In today's military one really needs to judge others by their performance but really be exact and careful when evaluating a person of a different race or sex than oneself. BTW one female instructor pilot in my flight at Ft Rucker became an astronaut and is now a prof at A&M. I knew she was smart but...
https://dbpedia.org/page/Nancy_J._Currie-Gregg
The sentiment is that with feminism women often get their cake and to eat it too. Nobody's really advocating for a draft military w/ 51% females. But the military (and country) has in many ways carved out preferential treatment for women.bigtruckguy3500 said:I disagree. I think my reasons are beyond the scope of the military forum, and probably belong in the philosophy forum, but I'll just briefly summarize to say that decisions like this have consequences. Men are natural protectors of women, and we've seen men abdicate that responsibility more and more as women have taken on traditionally masculine jobs. I think the consequences of continuing policies that blur that divide and allow for normalization of switching gender roles will only lead to harms to this country long term that will be difficult, or impossible to come back from.CharlieBrown17 said:TheGreatEscape said:
I prefer our daughters to not be drafted. But you all
are the boss.
Nah **** that. If this country is going to push that men/women are equal then women should be draft eligible.
There's plenty of non combat roles they can fill if needed. Not having a dick shouldn't magically make you unable to serve the country in a WW3 type of scenario.
I don't disagree with you. But in order to spite the feminists, we risk teaching a generation of young men that it's ok to let women fight for them. You just can't come back from that, unfortunately.Get Off My Lawn said:The sentiment is that with feminism women often get their cake and to eat it too. Nobody's really advocating for a draft military w/ 51% females. But the military (and country) has in many ways carved out preferential treatment for women.bigtruckguy3500 said:I disagree. I think my reasons are beyond the scope of the military forum, and probably belong in the philosophy forum, but I'll just briefly summarize to say that decisions like this have consequences. Men are natural protectors of women, and we've seen men abdicate that responsibility more and more as women have taken on traditionally masculine jobs. I think the consequences of continuing policies that blur that divide and allow for normalization of switching gender roles will only lead to harms to this country long term that will be difficult, or impossible to come back from.CharlieBrown17 said:TheGreatEscape said:
I prefer our daughters to not be drafted. But you all
are the boss.
Nah **** that. If this country is going to push that men/women are equal then women should be draft eligible.
There's plenty of non combat roles they can fill if needed. Not having a dick shouldn't magically make you unable to serve the country in a WW3 type of scenario.
Unfortunately I think you're looking at a single manifestation of a much larger cultural cancer.bigtruckguy3500 said:I don't disagree with you. But in order to spite the feminists, we risk teaching a generation of young men that it's ok to let women fight for them. You just can't come back from that, unfortunately.Get Off My Lawn said:The sentiment is that with feminism women often get their cake and to eat it too. Nobody's really advocating for a draft military w/ 51% females. But the military (and country) has in many ways carved out preferential treatment for women.bigtruckguy3500 said:I disagree. I think my reasons are beyond the scope of the military forum, and probably belong in the philosophy forum, but I'll just briefly summarize to say that decisions like this have consequences. Men are natural protectors of women, and we've seen men abdicate that responsibility more and more as women have taken on traditionally masculine jobs. I think the consequences of continuing policies that blur that divide and allow for normalization of switching gender roles will only lead to harms to this country long term that will be difficult, or impossible to come back from.CharlieBrown17 said:TheGreatEscape said:
I prefer our daughters to not be drafted. But you all
are the boss.
Nah **** that. If this country is going to push that men/women are equal then women should be draft eligible.
There's plenty of non combat roles they can fill if needed. Not having a dick shouldn't magically make you unable to serve the country in a WW3 type of scenario.