Under oath today.

So now that high ranking former military/intelligence official has claimed we have "exotic..not of this planet materials and vehicles".....where do we go from here?

I think 3 very important questions need to be asked and answered. Hopefully honestly.

Who initiated the original lie about Roswell?

Who has been responsible for its maintenance?

Why?

Here is a link to today's congressional hearing:

As a former USAF pilot I can say I've seen these.

Mike Singleton, PhD , Maj USAF ret

mikes0108@icloud.com said:

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As a former USAF pilot I can say I've seen these.

Mike Singleton, PhD , Maj USAF ret

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It was reported today at the hearing that probably only 5% of the sightings/encounters are officially reported. I think that is about to change.

Thank you for your service, sir.

Here is a good recap of the hearing and the Air Force/Intelligence officer story:

Sighting reports and people claiming they are extraterrestrial in nature have been around for decades. I accept that most honestly believe what they believe.

But unless the government itself suddenly announces it has been mysteriously hiding evidence all this time, what has changed from these hearings?

The advocates will continue banging their pots without producing any evidence and most of us will go on discounting them until someone does.

Meanwhile, a minuscule number of ex-officials saying "I believe" or "I heard" isn't evidence.

GRUSCH , Mussolini and the Pope.

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Sighting reports and people claiming they are extraterrestrial in nature have been around for decades. I accept that most honestly believe what they believe.

But unless the government itself suddenly announces it has been mysteriously hiding evidence all this time, what has changed from these hearings?

The advocates will continue banging their pots without producing any evidence and most of us will go on discounting them until someone does.

Meanwhile, a minuscule number of ex-officials saying "I believe" or "I heard" isn't evidence.

GRUSCH

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Grusch IS a government official and has said as much. And that is evidence. Perhaps it's not the evidence we all want.. What we all want to see is hardware, bodies etc. At the very least the dots to connect have now become dashes which eventually will become a straight line. And all this crap most likely could have been avoided only if our gov had not done the back tracking on what really happened in New Mexico in 1947. It was not a weather balloon. Nor a mogul balloon. Lying has its consequences.

Amazing time to be alive and witness the greatest news ever being negotiated.

Grusch is an ex-AF major, not a serving government official of any kind. In his congressional testimony he never offered any first hand evidence. Nothing. It was all second hand, "someone told me", without any verification of what he was supposedly told. There's nothing new here and, as usual, no actual evidence.

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Grusch is an ex-AF major, not a serving government official of any kind. In his congressional testimony he never offered any first hand evidence. Nothing. It was all second hand, "someone told me", without any verification of what he was supposedly told. There's nothing new here and, as usual, no actual evidence.

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Gov official is what I've seen describing him....perhaps they were in error. Really doesn't matter though? Not first hand evidence, correct. At least what he offered in the open hearing. He is/was very much associated with our gov be it ex, current whatever. You are correct, he presented this a couple of weeks ago in an interview.

What would you deem to be evidence? BTW, those that do have "hands on" experience with actual material/craft (the juicy evidence we all want hear/see..) are lining up for the next hearing. His evidence is of those who do have evidence perhaps. Evidence, none the less. But the important item is that a critical mass has been reached. Publicly. Its on record...not in a grocery store check out line magazine stand. The toothpaste ain't going back in the tube. Many of those who will be coming forward are people David has spoken with evidently. I've always thought that this process of disclosure going back at least 5 years, is being somewhat "controlled" to limit the disruption on the American people. Who might be behind that...for another day.

Let's hope we get the goods on what the gov has been covering up for decades yes?

Exciting time be alive for sure.

This is a fantastic summary of yesterday's event and some good background info on Mr. Grusch-well worth a listen IMO:

Back in the 1990s, the WEEKLY WORLD NEWS, you know, one of them crazy birdcage liners you read when you're bored and in a long line at the supermarket. With headlines like

"CHEATING HUBBY'S HEAD EXPLODES"!

well they had a headline "Navy Captures UFO!. That caught my fancy being a former Naval Aviator. They had a picture of the "UFO". It was a picture of an E2-C Hawkeye...the Hummer..the "UFO" was the radome on top.

I can't believe that the GOP Congress is now attempting to mainstream what 20 years ago was pure "Cheating Hubby's Head Explodes" WEEKLY WORLD NEWS kook crap.

Pentagon UFO boss fires back in the face of unsubstantiated allegations by "whistleblowers".

"...to be clear, AARO has yet to find any credible evidence to support the allegations of any reverse engineering program for non-human technology," he wrote. "Also, to be clear, none of the whistleblowers from [Wednesday's] hearing ever worked for AARO or was ever a representative to AARO, contrary to statements made in testimony and in the media."

FABRICATIONS

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Back in the 1990s, the WEEKLY WORLD NEWS, you know, one of them crazy birdcage liners you read when you're bored and in a long line at the supermarket. With headlines like

"CHEATING HUBBY'S HEAD EXPLODES"!

well they had a headline "Navy Captures UFO!. That caught my fancy being a former Naval Aviator. They had a picture of the "UFO". It was a picture of an E2-C Hawkeye...the Hummer..the "UFO" was the radome on top.

I can't believe that the GOP Congress is now attempting to mainstream what 20 years ago was pure "Cheating Hubby's Head Explodes" WEEKLY WORLD NEWS kook crap.

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Many are a bit too quick to totally discount some of the stories from those mags I've been told. Takes a highly refined discernment software, which I don't posses. But, they continue to sell apparently.

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Pentagon UFO boss fires back in the face of unsubstantiated allegations by "whistleblowers".

"...to be clear, AARO has yet to find any credible evidence to support the allegations of any reverse engineering program for non-human technology," he wrote. "Also, to be clear, none of the whistleblowers from [Wednesday's] hearing ever worked for AARO or was ever a representative to AARO, contrary to statements made in testimony and in the media."

FABRICATIONS

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The memo reflects Kirkpatrick's personal opinions and not the position of the U.S. government, he wrote...

Yup...tow the company line. AARO will soon be rendered inert IMO. The truth will come out this time. Buckle up...

JCorbell apparently doesn't agree with Mr. Kirkpatrick:



Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick made dangerous errors in his public response regarding the recent congressional UFO hearing that we planned and held this past Wednesday, July 26th in Washington D.C.

Other than Dr. Kirkpatrick seemingly not knowing the difference between the ONE whistleblower David Grusch, and the TWO decorated Top Gun fighter pilots and UAP witnesses (CDR Fravor and Lt. Graves)...

Dr. Kirkpatrick intentionally (or ignorantly) conflated critical factual issues - making me think that he literally doesn't understand human language.

In some industries that's kinda blind-spot is called bad-intel... but in this case, it's likely just poor judgement, or character... or down-right intensional manipulation of semantics for misdirection.

I'm not gonna let that kinda horse**** go unchecked.

Not at this critical moment in our history when the world is watching how people like David Grusch (a true whistleblower by definition) is being treated by our government agencies and public.

ESPECIALLY - I'm not going to be silent after Dr. Kirkpatrick has been given all reasonable opportunities to be straight and honest with the American public - and has objectively failed while bestowed with that great duty and privilege.

Because guess what - Dr. Kirkpatrick has not earned your trust. And when you learn more of the truth soon - you will find out he's damaged that important bridge of trust between you and truth.

To be CRYSTAL clear... Dr. Kirkpatrick attempted to represent his response letter about AARO and his employees - as a "personal" letter - but he missed the target and dug himself a deep dark hole.

He doesn't get that y'all are listening - that together y'all are POWERFUL & SMART & WATCHING (watching even his cufflinks).

I bet most of you didn't get through his defense postured word-war of a reaction statement - to read his last sentence. You should do that and inform yourself.

Dr. Kirkpatrick's response is a cautionary tale which reveals his unfortunate position of non-transparency on the UAP issue.

Dr. Kirkpatrick directly indicated that David Grusch lied under oath, by claiming he "worked for" or was "a representative to AARO".

That is NOT what David Grusch said in his opening remarks... but Dr. Kirkpatrick thinks your dumb or lazy, so he uses false words to twist you.

FACT : David Grusch "Reported to AARO as the UAP co-lead for NGA (National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency)".

It was literally a part of Dave's job.

It's ALSO fact that Dr. Kirkpatrick supervised their work.

Maybe someone should clue-in Dr. Kirkpatrick to what was actually said - and also that he can't make false statements to the public. That the word-wars and misrepresentation of truth to the American public are unacceptable.

However, what I REALLY think we SHOULD be discussing is something like the Hatch Act. What it looks like when someone interferes with Congress or whistleblowers.

I'm not a lawyer, I'm just a bearded guy who likes to poke the bear when the bear's been bad - but I've heard from those smarter than me that violations of the Hatch Act can be read to include...

"Using official authority to discourage political activity of persons before the employing agency."

Understand this; interfering with Congress and whistleblowers is illegal. Like, jail time illegal. And we should not stand for that kinda witness intimidation or character assassination - ever.

Not sayin' - just sayin'

People in power should have a healthy respect for the legions of citizen journalists (or mainstream journalists if they catch up to inform themselves) - because everybody is watching how those like Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick are acting right now - journalists from around the world.

If those like Dr. Kirkpatrick choose to obfuscate - if they choose to lie - they will be held accountable. It will become a legal matter outside of simple public opinion and woeful letters discouraging whistleblowers from speaking.

Them be the facts!


They should have simply told the truth in 1947. They danced..now time to pay the fiddler.

Kirkpatrick is the serving head of AARO, not some random dude out on the street with an opinion.

The government's position is found in the update at the bottom of the article, and it mirrors what Kirkpatrick said.

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The government's position is found in the update at the bottom of the article, and it mirrors what Kirkpatrick said.

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I was just posting a quote for the article you linked. This may be one of those "left hand has no idea what the right hand is doing". Many are convinced of this. It does sound like Kirkpatrick and many other gov officials are not privy to some of the things Brusch is aware of. The defense contractors are oddly silent about all this.

This is awesome:

In 1989, Bob Lazar claimed to have worked on reverse engineering a retrieved UFO, allegedly extraterrestrial in origin, at a secret facility in Nevada - a claim that has been the subject of much controversy ever since. His reaction to this week’s hearing:
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— 𝐂𝐨𝐥𝐦𝐚𝐧 𝐉𝐨𝐧𝐞𝐬 (@colmanjones) July 28, 2023

Will they have the balls to subpoena Bob?

Leslie has some additional thoughts on the hearings.

It would appear that Kirkpatrick and this newly created AARO group within the Pentagon...don't know their azzes from a hole in the ground.

This is what we are up against...

The security guard called and said, "Sir, there's a glowing red object hovering right outside the front gate. I've got all the men out here with their weapons drawn." We lost between 16-18 ICBMs (nuclear tipped Inter Continental Ballistic Missiles) at the same time UFOs were in the area… (A high-ranking Air Force officer) said, "Stop the investigation; do no more on this and do not write a final report. I heard that many of the guards that reported the incident were sent off to Vietnam." Captain Robert Salas, USAF, during a videotaped interview for the Disclosure program.

Kicking and squealing like a petulant child, the truth will be disclosed...

Whilst we wait for "confirmation" and perhaps testmonies from those David mentioned as having hands on experience with et materials, here is a video intervew of someone who did. Col. Phillip J. Corso: