Online Landscape Design - Yardzen, Bacqyard, etc

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Lt. Joe Bookman
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Does anyone have any experience working with an online landscape designer?

Looking to do a few things for our backyard here in Southern Oregon. I'm a Civil Engineer, so I'm used to drawing, grading, and designing sites.. but I design like an engineer (super practical with straight lines preferred) so I thought getting a design from something like Yardzen might be helpful.

I've used AI to kind of get to what we want, but not totally happy with the result.




tgivaughn
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Certainly more curves might be the SOP script for Land.Arch ala my son but all seen here justified by the limitations, akin to Patio Home regrets in space.

Judging from wonderful design progressions + surprised an engineer author for reasons stated,

  • You'll arrive at a wonderful ending staying the course and asking only for regretful omissions from sites such as this (in-the-day our must was a grilling/bar area w/tub o ice)
  • You could graduate to an ideal IF an interested, dedicated and not self-serving LOCAL Land.Arch would take you both on, including soils reports and an important hort education so the investment doesn't die
Gotta draw since me got no grammar MasterArch '76
Leggo My Elko
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I work for a company that build patios, patio covers pergolas outdoor kitchens and sunrooms ect.
We have had a handful for customers that used Yardzen and then came to us to complete the work or part of the work. One of the projects came out really well and the design was well thought out and buildable, another not so much.

The biggest issues they typically overlook in terms of design, is the cost in respect to projects that involve electrical, gas and plumbing. Having to trench a waterline 10 ft versus 30 ft is a big deal in terms of what you pay. Placing a hot tub is spot A verse spot B might have a large impact in the electrical cost. Placing a concrete patio here verse there might be the difference in having to cap a few sprinkle heads or rebuilding an entire sprinkle zone ect..

From a builders and homeowners wallet perspect, the best projects are designed in ways that efficiently deal with the "infrastructure" first and then meet the other needs second. Keep that in mind as you think about things. Does XYZ impact/need pipes or wires IF SO, how do I deal with that in an efficient manner.
Lt. Joe Bookman
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Leggo My Elko said:

I work for a company that build patios, patio covers pergolas outdoor kitchens and sunrooms ect.
We have had a handful for customers that used Yardzen and then came to us to complete the work or part of the work. One of the projects came out really well and the design was well thought out and buildable, another not so much.

The biggest issues they typically overlook in terms of design, is the cost in respect to projects that involve electrical, gas and plumbing. Having to trench a waterline 10 ft versus 30 ft is a big deal in terms of what you pay. Placing a hot tub is spot A verse spot B might have a large impact in the electrical cost. Placing a concrete patio here verse there might be the difference in having to cap a few sprinkle heads or rebuilding an entire sprinkle zone ect..

From a builders and homeowners wallet perspect, the best projects are designed in ways that efficiently deal with the "infrastructure" first and then meet the other needs second. Keep that in mind as you think about things. Does XYZ impact/need pipes or wires IF SO, how do I deal with that in an efficient manner.

Thanks for the input. That makes perfect sense.

From the consultations that I had with them, they were explicitly clear that they weren't electricians or plumbers, so if that work was needed, I'd need to get with someone in that regard.

I'm really wanting to use them for inspiration and a design. Place this furniture here because it flows better, place this plant here, etc. Then I can handle the 'infrastructure' and civil site needs.

They did mention they could provide me with a .dwg or cad file so I can take it and run with it in AutoCAD.

Did the client ever reach back out to Yardzen for a revision during your projects? I'm wondering how that process works (they both come with a max of 1-2 revisions). I'm wondering what happens if small things come up needing a minor change. Those tend to happen with any construction project, no matter the size.
Lt. Joe Bookman
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The local part/knowledge is definitely something I'm worried about. I do NOT have a green thumb, so we need some hardy plants to weather not only our difficult climate, but also my lack of gardening skills.
Leggo My Elko
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Quote:

Did the client ever reach back out to Yardzen for a revision during your projects? I'm wondering how that process works (they both come with a max of 1-2 revisions). I'm wondering what happens if small things come up needing a minor change. Those tend to happen with any construction project, no matter the size.

The one that went well, I don't recall. That particular homeowner was really knowledgeable about construction and our part if the project was easy. The one that didn't go well they pretty much had the throw the plan out because what was proposed just made no financial sense. They still got 80% of what they wanted but it was designed in such a way it didn't balloon the project cost.
Luckass96
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As a landscape architect in the mostly residential world. We have seen some come in they are okay. They don't handle elevations and slope very well and also don't always allow enough space for items, and we have to rework them If they are willing to get you a dwg file that is great. Most just do a pdf plan and a bunch of images. I would encourage you to check with some local companies and see how much a design would cost you also.
HDeathstar
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Good points in the comments above. You are not in texas, but one thing I have learned with all my projects over the years. Think of everything that needs to go underground and maintain maintenance capabilities (can you get equipment into the back yard after upgrade, easement restrictions, can you do foundation repair after, replace sewer lines post upgrade, etc.) Nothing worse than building and then other issues make you tear it up.

Another issue is sunlight, siting area needs some shade (in texas it does )
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